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		<title>By: Jr</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2013/03/12/spurs-105-thunder-93/comment-page-2/#comment-129034</link>
		<dc:creator>Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe the confidence gained for the Spurs in the second quarter where they were on the 11-0 run. We were attacking the board the first quarter grabbing most of the rebounds on offence and defense, then some how we lost that after inserting our second unit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the confidence gained for the Spurs in the second quarter where they were on the 11-0 run. We were attacking the board the first quarter grabbing most of the rebounds on offence and defense, then some how we lost that after inserting our second unit.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Nick and TD-Here is the answer to your question and it can only be one example as stated and let the readers decide on it:

From Nick: “show me the stat that shows that the Thunder can’t win with Durant and WB taking most of the shots.”

My answer: Russell Westbrook: 37.45 minutes, 11-27 shots, 25 points;
Durant:39.31 minutes, 7-13 shots, 26 points

Those two shots most of the ball, all others were in single digit, except Ibaka with 13 points.

*Courtesy of the NBA, if you have any doubts, go to the NBA.com

It only needs one answer to your question to squelch the notion that it needs only two players to carry this team. My example is now part of the statistics to counter your preconceive thinking that the Thunder can win by using only one player (your man-Westbrook), by your example. Now you only gave me two examples, which the the Nets game, as per example I don’t even bother to verify.

Here is an example of 1 statistic from Elias sport bureau:

RUSSELL WESTBROOK ON RECORD PACE

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the Thunder is on pace to become only the second team in NBA history to have a scoring champion not take the most shots on his team.

With Westbrook (18.8) attempting more shots than current scoring leader Durant (17.9), the Thunder could join the 1954-55 Philadelphia Warriors as the only two teams with that distinction.

Neil Johnson won the scoring title for the 1954-55 season, but teammate Paul Arizin attempted two more shots per game that season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick and TD-Here is the answer to your question and it can only be one example as stated and let the readers decide on it:</p>
<p>From Nick: “show me the stat that shows that the Thunder can’t win with Durant and WB taking most of the shots.”</p>
<p>My answer: Russell Westbrook: 37.45 minutes, 11-27 shots, 25 points;<br />
Durant:39.31 minutes, 7-13 shots, 26 points</p>
<p>Those two shots most of the ball, all others were in single digit, except Ibaka with 13 points.</p>
<p>*Courtesy of the NBA, if you have any doubts, go to the NBA.com</p>
<p>It only needs one answer to your question to squelch the notion that it needs only two players to carry this team. My example is now part of the statistics to counter your preconceive thinking that the Thunder can win by using only one player (your man-Westbrook), by your example. Now you only gave me two examples, which the the Nets game, as per example I don’t even bother to verify.</p>
<p>Here is an example of 1 statistic from Elias sport bureau:</p>
<p>RUSSELL WESTBROOK ON RECORD PACE</p>
<p>According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the Thunder is on pace to become only the second team in NBA history to have a scoring champion not take the most shots on his team.</p>
<p>With Westbrook (18.8) attempting more shots than current scoring leader Durant (17.9), the Thunder could join the 1954-55 Philadelphia Warriors as the only two teams with that distinction.</p>
<p>Neil Johnson won the scoring title for the 1954-55 season, but teammate Paul Arizin attempted two more shots per game that season.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wut?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wut?</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let’s get one thing into perspective here, that the reporter tells the news as he ask the questions and their relevance to his story. Let’s not shoot the messenger, but read what is being said. If we here don’t get the news from the insiders (sports writers), we don’t see or read what is happening with the team and we then turn to speculations.

By the sports writers view point, he starts to get statistics to back his story and that’s were some disagree. It is alright to agree to disagree, but not to be name calling those people who are not with you.

Name calling starts when people (usually 3rd graders or lower) cannot anymore handle to make sense or argue the facts throw out there. Their mind is already clouded by anger and retaliation for someone. Please let’s not start something that we cannot finish. Let’s be adults here and mature because there are young people also reading this news&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s get one thing into perspective here, that the reporter tells the news as he ask the questions and their relevance to his story. Let’s not shoot the messenger, but read what is being said. If we here don’t get the news from the insiders (sports writers), we don’t see or read what is happening with the team and we then turn to speculations.</p>
<p>By the sports writers view point, he starts to get statistics to back his story and that’s were some disagree. It is alright to agree to disagree, but not to be name calling those people who are not with you.</p>
<p>Name calling starts when people (usually 3rd graders or lower) cannot anymore handle to make sense or argue the facts throw out there. Their mind is already clouded by anger and retaliation for someone. Please let’s not start something that we cannot finish. Let’s be adults here and mature because there are young people also reading this news&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: TD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wally -- you cracked me up.  
I was never trying to prove a point that the team needs only Westbrook to win.  The point I was trying to make was that you cannot refer to only one game, and from that game conclude that what happened in that game is a truism (or an absolute).
My example, to support my point, was look at the Boston game.  Westbrook in; KD out; Westbrook the key to the win.  So, from that -- can one conclude that the team needs ONLY Westbrook to win?  The point--only one example is not sufficient.  You then make that point for me by posting: &quot;OK, That’s only one example of letting Westbrook win the game how about the other 328 games (for 4 years), how many did he win by himself?&quot;

However, to &quot;prove your point&quot; you post one example and restate the same example 12 times.  Yet, you readily acknowledge that one example is insufficient to prove the opposite of the point you are making.  

I think you are pretty funny.  

The team is great with BOTH Westbrook and Durant.  They seem to be able to work well together--lets enjoy watching them do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wally &#8212; you cracked me up.<br />
I was never trying to prove a point that the team needs only Westbrook to win.  The point I was trying to make was that you cannot refer to only one game, and from that game conclude that what happened in that game is a truism (or an absolute).<br />
My example, to support my point, was look at the Boston game.  Westbrook in; KD out; Westbrook the key to the win.  So, from that &#8212; can one conclude that the team needs ONLY Westbrook to win?  The point&#8211;only one example is not sufficient.  You then make that point for me by posting: &#8220;OK, That’s only one example of letting Westbrook win the game how about the other 328 games (for 4 years), how many did he win by himself?&#8221;</p>
<p>However, to &#8220;prove your point&#8221; you post one example and restate the same example 12 times.  Yet, you readily acknowledge that one example is insufficient to prove the opposite of the point you are making.  </p>
<p>I think you are pretty funny.  </p>
<p>The team is great with BOTH Westbrook and Durant.  They seem to be able to work well together&#8211;lets enjoy watching them do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL.  No really, I laughed out loud as I read that.  I don&#039;t think you will ever understand that you didn&#039;t come anywhere close to proving your point.  I gave you one game where KD and WB did exactly what you said they couldn&#039;t do and won a game in the Finals.  Does that not refute your point that they can&#039;t win by shooting the ball a lot?  Why not?  

I don&#039;t defend WB because I am a fan boy who hangs on his every move.  No one has ever seen me on here or anywhere else after WB has a great game telling everyone that he is the bees knees.  I am only defending him here because so many don&#039;t realize or understand what they are watching.  The Thunder have the best offense in the league.  They have the biggest point differential in the league.  They have two superstars.

You don&#039;t like him.  Fine.  But your point doesn&#039;t even come close to showing that the Thunder should ask WB to stop being aggressive and taking shots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.  No really, I laughed out loud as I read that.  I don&#8217;t think you will ever understand that you didn&#8217;t come anywhere close to proving your point.  I gave you one game where KD and WB did exactly what you said they couldn&#8217;t do and won a game in the Finals.  Does that not refute your point that they can&#8217;t win by shooting the ball a lot?  Why not?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t defend WB because I am a fan boy who hangs on his every move.  No one has ever seen me on here or anywhere else after WB has a great game telling everyone that he is the bees knees.  I am only defending him here because so many don&#8217;t realize or understand what they are watching.  The Thunder have the best offense in the league.  They have the biggest point differential in the league.  They have two superstars.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t like him.  Fine.  But your point doesn&#8217;t even come close to showing that the Thunder should ask WB to stop being aggressive and taking shots.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Nick, It only needs one answer to your question to squelch the notion that it needs only two players to carry this team. My example is now part of the statistics to counter your preconceive thinking that the Thunder can win by using only one player (your man-Westbrook), by your example. Now you only gave me two examples, which the the Nets game, as per example I don&#039;t even bother to verify.

By anecdotal evidence means based on casual observations or indications rather than rigorous or scientific analysis.

The data I presented is factual and now part of the Thunder-Spurs stats, not personal observation, as TD also tried to counter and you trying to fall back on it. I guess TD and you are Westbrook man crush, as Patti would say! 

So to your point, giving me 2 examples makes it an statistic and one does not make sense. It takes several for it to work, but probably you have enough time on your hands to go do it. 

To my point, only one example is what I need and I will end the non-sense of proving yourself, but will not get my approval.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick, It only needs one answer to your question to squelch the notion that it needs only two players to carry this team. My example is now part of the statistics to counter your preconceive thinking that the Thunder can win by using only one player (your man-Westbrook), by your example. Now you only gave me two examples, which the the Nets game, as per example I don&#8217;t even bother to verify.</p>
<p>By anecdotal evidence means based on casual observations or indications rather than rigorous or scientific analysis.</p>
<p>The data I presented is factual and now part of the Thunder-Spurs stats, not personal observation, as TD also tried to counter and you trying to fall back on it. I guess TD and you are Westbrook man crush, as Patti would say! </p>
<p>So to your point, giving me 2 examples makes it an statistic and one does not make sense. It takes several for it to work, but probably you have enough time on your hands to go do it. </p>
<p>To my point, only one example is what I need and I will end the non-sense of proving yourself, but will not get my approval.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, that is the whole point.  It takes way more than just one.  What do you not understand about that?

All you have shown me is that during one game that the Thunder lost, Durant and Westbrook took more shots than the rest of the team.  They took 40 shots.  Do you really not understand that it takes way more than just that to establish a pattern to show that the Thunder &quot;can&#039;t win&quot;, which is what I asked you to show me.  In fact, I showed you a game in which they took 44 combined shots and won a game in the Finals.  My point, as it has been the entire time, is that there is a multitude of reasons that the Thunder lost against the Spurs and beat the Heat that had nothing to do with how many shots KD and WB took.

As for your question, there are a couple of examples that I can think of where WB basically won a game pretty much by himself.  The Boston game that someone already mentioned earlier.  There is also a game against the Nets that went to overtime where KD was out with injury that WB took over and pretty much won.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that is the whole point.  It takes way more than just one.  What do you not understand about that?</p>
<p>All you have shown me is that during one game that the Thunder lost, Durant and Westbrook took more shots than the rest of the team.  They took 40 shots.  Do you really not understand that it takes way more than just that to establish a pattern to show that the Thunder &#8220;can&#8217;t win&#8221;, which is what I asked you to show me.  In fact, I showed you a game in which they took 44 combined shots and won a game in the Finals.  My point, as it has been the entire time, is that there is a multitude of reasons that the Thunder lost against the Spurs and beat the Heat that had nothing to do with how many shots KD and WB took.</p>
<p>As for your question, there are a couple of examples that I can think of where WB basically won a game pretty much by himself.  The Boston game that someone already mentioned earlier.  There is also a game against the Nets that went to overtime where KD was out with injury that WB took over and pretty much won.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Nick-You are the most stupid person on this blog who can&#039;t understand plain english, Nick. Here for the fifth time is your question and you asked for stats. Readers check my answer above for this knucklehead just doesn&#039;t get it!

From Nick: “show me the stat that shows that the Thunder can’t win with Durant and WB taking most of the shots.”

Here again is my answer and I only need to show you one to prove my point. Maybe because I was able to show you one and you want more:
 
Russell Westbrook: 37.45 minutes, 11-27 shots, 25 points;
 Durant:39.31 minutes, 7-13 shots, 26 points
 
Those two shots most of the ball, all others were in single digit, except Ibaka with 13 points.
 
*Courtesy of the NBA, if you have any doubts, go to the NBA.com


Now how about you stating your own stat of the above?
You can ask all the questions, but you don&#039;t have an answer for it, forget my aswering your dumb ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick-You are the most stupid person on this blog who can&#8217;t understand plain english, Nick. Here for the fifth time is your question and you asked for stats. Readers check my answer above for this knucklehead just doesn&#8217;t get it!</p>
<p>From Nick: “show me the stat that shows that the Thunder can’t win with Durant and WB taking most of the shots.”</p>
<p>Here again is my answer and I only need to show you one to prove my point. Maybe because I was able to show you one and you want more:</p>
<p>Russell Westbrook: 37.45 minutes, 11-27 shots, 25 points;<br />
 Durant:39.31 minutes, 7-13 shots, 26 points</p>
<p>Those two shots most of the ball, all others were in single digit, except Ibaka with 13 points.</p>
<p>*Courtesy of the NBA, if you have any doubts, go to the NBA.com</p>
<p>Now how about you stating your own stat of the above?<br />
You can ask all the questions, but you don&#8217;t have an answer for it, forget my aswering your dumb ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I did completely underestimate you.  You really are that dense.  A stat is not the box score of one game.  That is anecdotal evidence, which more than one person has told you doesn&#039;t prove anything.  I figured that anyone with even an elementary education would be able to figure that out.  You can repeat your same box score lines from last night from here to eternity, and it still isn&#039;t what I was asking for.  I am pretty sure that everyone understands that except maybe you.

So, to show you the error of your ways I took the last win from last year&#039;s playoffs and gave you an example of Durant and WB doing exactly what you said they shouldn&#039;t do, and they did it to win a Finals game.  It doesn&#039;t prove anything anymore than your one game of evidence proves anything, but it should have at least have shown you that anyone can take something out of the box score of one game and make it more than it should be like my other example with Derek Fisher&#039;s shots.

Did you even read my post?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I did completely underestimate you.  You really are that dense.  A stat is not the box score of one game.  That is anecdotal evidence, which more than one person has told you doesn&#8217;t prove anything.  I figured that anyone with even an elementary education would be able to figure that out.  You can repeat your same box score lines from last night from here to eternity, and it still isn&#8217;t what I was asking for.  I am pretty sure that everyone understands that except maybe you.</p>
<p>So, to show you the error of your ways I took the last win from last year&#8217;s playoffs and gave you an example of Durant and WB doing exactly what you said they shouldn&#8217;t do, and they did it to win a Finals game.  It doesn&#8217;t prove anything anymore than your one game of evidence proves anything, but it should have at least have shown you that anyone can take something out of the box score of one game and make it more than it should be like my other example with Derek Fisher&#8217;s shots.</p>
<p>Did you even read my post?</p>
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