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	<title>Comments on: What will it take for Kevin Durant to overtake LeBron&#8217;s 20,000-point record?</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brooks should have given up the reins to Cheeks or whoever, given his head is not up to do a good job directing the plays! He should rest for about a month or so!

Oklahoma Thunder should have more shooters than only 4 players doing the shooting. The Denver Nuggets had 7 double digit shooters, which are harder to guard than two or three players. Besides, the Thunder are not working harder than their opponents and shoot too much jumpers and 3&#039;s that don&#039;t find the mark. That&#039;s an example of lazy plays, by not getting to the hoop!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooks should have given up the reins to Cheeks or whoever, given his head is not up to do a good job directing the plays! He should rest for about a month or so!</p>
<p>Oklahoma Thunder should have more shooters than only 4 players doing the shooting. The Denver Nuggets had 7 double digit shooters, which are harder to guard than two or three players. Besides, the Thunder are not working harder than their opponents and shoot too much jumpers and 3&#8242;s that don&#8217;t find the mark. That&#8217;s an example of lazy plays, by not getting to the hoop!</p>
<p>Revised version.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuesday Bolts &#8211; 1.22.13 &#124; New Daily Thunder.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuesday Bolts &#8211; 1.22.13 &#124; New Daily Thunder.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Anthony Slater of NewsOK on KD and 20,000 points: &#8220;As of Monday, Kevin Durant is 24 years and 113 days old. His birthday is September 29th. That means, his cut-off date for the 20,000-point record would be Oct., 16, 2016, when he’d be the exact same age LeBron was last Wednesday in Oakland. D has scored 11,187 points up to this point in his career, counting the 37 he dropped last night in Denver. Including the 41 games left this season, there will be 287 regular season contests before the 2016-17 season starts in late October, days after Durant will have hit the deadline date. So KD has 287 games to score 8,813 points. That’s 30.7 points per game (at a minimum), a number he’s yet to hit during a full season at any point in his career (30.1 is his highest). He’s averaging 29.5 points per game this year. It’s certainly not impossible, but at this point seems unlikely. He’s going to need to stay freakishly healthy (something he’s done so far) and start scoring at an even higher rate. Not saying he isn’t capable, but not betting on it either.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Anthony Slater of NewsOK on KD and 20,000 points: &#8220;As of Monday, Kevin Durant is 24 years and 113 days old. His birthday is September 29th. That means, his cut-off date for the 20,000-point record would be Oct., 16, 2016, when he’d be the exact same age LeBron was last Wednesday in Oakland. D has scored 11,187 points up to this point in his career, counting the 37 he dropped last night in Denver. Including the 41 games left this season, there will be 287 regular season contests before the 2016-17 season starts in late October, days after Durant will have hit the deadline date. So KD has 287 games to score 8,813 points. That’s 30.7 points per game (at a minimum), a number he’s yet to hit during a full season at any point in his career (30.1 is his highest). He’s averaging 29.5 points per game this year. It’s certainly not impossible, but at this point seems unlikely. He’s going to need to stay freakishly healthy (something he’s done so far) and start scoring at an even higher rate. Not saying he isn’t capable, but not betting on it either.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doc Rivers threatens big changes to Celtics, one week after Danny Ainge predicts no trades. On Sunday, the Boston Celtics lost 105-88 to the Detroit Pistons, a team playing its first game since Thursday&#039;s &quot;home&quot; game in London. Given the circumstances of the loss, the Celtics have reason to worry. The Celtics had serious problems with rookie big man Andre Drummond, shot just under 40 percent from the field, and turned the ball over 18 times. They were just outplayed by what most everyone would identify as an inferior opponent.

&quot;I gotta either find the right combination or the right guys, or we&#039;re going to get some guys out of here,&quot; said a visibly upset Rivers after the Celtics lost their third straight game. &quot;That&#039;s the bottom line. This group right now, they&#039;re not playing right. It&#039;s in them to play right. But right now they haven&#039;t been either because I&#039;m not getting to them, or they&#039;re not getting to each other.&quot;

&quot;I&#039;m clearly not doing my job with this team,&quot; Rivers said. &quot;I ain&#039;t trying to take a bullet for the team. I told them that, &#039;we gotta find something every night all 12 guys play the same way.&quot;&#039; [...]

&quot;I don&#039;t think guys are honest with each other,&quot; Rivers said. &quot;I just don&#039;t think we have committed to being a good basketball team. I think this team wants everything easy; they want the easy way out. They just want to win easy. And I told them, &#039;the only way you&#039;re going to win easy is you&#039;re going to have to play hard. The harder you play, the easier the game becomes.&quot;&#039;

That&#039;s a coach telling it the way it is and not succumbing to his players!

Another story of failure are the Lakers and here is what&#039;s going on.

Kobe Bryant&#039;s frustration with Lakers&#039; struggles grows: &#039;This isn&#039;t working&#039;
It isn&#039;t working for Pau Gasol, who has lost his starting job to Earl Clark. It isn&#039;t working for Dwight Howard, who grumbled privately in the locker room over the truths on the stat sheet. Most of all, it isn&#039;t working for the Los Angeles Lakers, on course to be remembered as one of pro sports&#039; biggest debacles. 

On the issue of coach Mike D&#039;Antoni stripping Gasol of his starting job, Bryant responded with a long, telling silence and smirk when pressed on whether he believed Gasol&#039;s benching made these Lakers a better basketball team.

This speaks to D&#039;Antoni&#039;s inability to cultivate an identity for these Lakers. Bryant wouldn&#039;t come right out and declare D&#039;Antoni&#039;s system a failure, but he did speak to a need for the coach to find ways to flex everyone&#039;s strengths. D&#039;Antoni has a long, stubborn history of forcing talent to fit into his system, and right now that is clearly playing a part in the unraveling of this season. 

From the NBA news in Yahoo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc Rivers threatens big changes to Celtics, one week after Danny Ainge predicts no trades. On Sunday, the Boston Celtics lost 105-88 to the Detroit Pistons, a team playing its first game since Thursday&#8217;s &#8220;home&#8221; game in London. Given the circumstances of the loss, the Celtics have reason to worry. The Celtics had serious problems with rookie big man Andre Drummond, shot just under 40 percent from the field, and turned the ball over 18 times. They were just outplayed by what most everyone would identify as an inferior opponent.</p>
<p>&#8220;I gotta either find the right combination or the right guys, or we&#8217;re going to get some guys out of here,&#8221; said a visibly upset Rivers after the Celtics lost their third straight game. &#8220;That&#8217;s the bottom line. This group right now, they&#8217;re not playing right. It&#8217;s in them to play right. But right now they haven&#8217;t been either because I&#8217;m not getting to them, or they&#8217;re not getting to each other.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m clearly not doing my job with this team,&#8221; Rivers said. &#8220;I ain&#8217;t trying to take a bullet for the team. I told them that, &#8216;we gotta find something every night all 12 guys play the same way.&#8221;&#8216; [...]</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think guys are honest with each other,&#8221; Rivers said. &#8220;I just don&#8217;t think we have committed to being a good basketball team. I think this team wants everything easy; they want the easy way out. They just want to win easy. And I told them, &#8216;the only way you&#8217;re going to win easy is you&#8217;re going to have to play hard. The harder you play, the easier the game becomes.&#8221;&#8216;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a coach telling it the way it is and not succumbing to his players!</p>
<p>Another story of failure are the Lakers and here is what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>Kobe Bryant&#8217;s frustration with Lakers&#8217; struggles grows: &#8216;This isn&#8217;t working&#8217;<br />
It isn&#8217;t working for Pau Gasol, who has lost his starting job to Earl Clark. It isn&#8217;t working for Dwight Howard, who grumbled privately in the locker room over the truths on the stat sheet. Most of all, it isn&#8217;t working for the Los Angeles Lakers, on course to be remembered as one of pro sports&#8217; biggest debacles. </p>
<p>On the issue of coach Mike D&#8217;Antoni stripping Gasol of his starting job, Bryant responded with a long, telling silence and smirk when pressed on whether he believed Gasol&#8217;s benching made these Lakers a better basketball team.</p>
<p>This speaks to D&#8217;Antoni&#8217;s inability to cultivate an identity for these Lakers. Bryant wouldn&#8217;t come right out and declare D&#8217;Antoni&#8217;s system a failure, but he did speak to a need for the coach to find ways to flex everyone&#8217;s strengths. D&#8217;Antoni has a long, stubborn history of forcing talent to fit into his system, and right now that is clearly playing a part in the unraveling of this season. </p>
<p>From the NBA news in Yahoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don’t believe on all what you said, because what you mentioned are all in defense of Brooks, Durant and Westbrook. I don’t see you mentioning why the Thunder lost. I think what the guys (Frank, Tony, Sal and Tyrone) just said are true. Do you think the other teams already know how to tackle the Thunder? Yes, that’s why they lost!
 
I think you are a dreamer that the Thunder cannot be beat. The Thunder has lost to; Denver, Brooklyn, Miami, Minnesota, Boston, Memphis, Atlanta and San Antonio, with only three favorite teams to have top chances to win it. The other 5 teams were suppose to be beaten, but beat the Thunder instead. Who do you think is responsible? The Thunder coach and players and its not the other team wanting to win, its the Thunder wanting to lose.
 In any given situation, there are causes and effects, that is what is logical and not because they are winning, its nobodys fault.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t believe on all what you said, because what you mentioned are all in defense of Brooks, Durant and Westbrook. I don’t see you mentioning why the Thunder lost. I think what the guys (Frank, Tony, Sal and Tyrone) just said are true. Do you think the other teams already know how to tackle the Thunder? Yes, that’s why they lost!</p>
<p>I think you are a dreamer that the Thunder cannot be beat. The Thunder has lost to; Denver, Brooklyn, Miami, Minnesota, Boston, Memphis, Atlanta and San Antonio, with only three favorite teams to have top chances to win it. The other 5 teams were suppose to be beaten, but beat the Thunder instead. Who do you think is responsible? The Thunder coach and players and its not the other team wanting to win, its the Thunder wanting to lose.<br />
 In any given situation, there are causes and effects, that is what is logical and not because they are winning, its nobodys fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Slater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason,

Postseason stats aren&#039;t counted in career numbers. Weren&#039;t for LeBron or anyone else. They are a different entity entirely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>Postseason stats aren&#8217;t counted in career numbers. Weren&#8217;t for LeBron or anyone else. They are a different entity entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faried scored the go-ahead layup in overtime, and the Nuggets overcame 30-plus point performances from Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook to beat the Thunder 121-118 Sunday night, snapping Oklahoma City&#039;s six-game winning streak.
Brewer also set up Faried with a pass on his decisive drive to the basket.
 
&#039;&#039;He gave me the ball and said, &#039;Go to work,&#039;&#039;&#039; Faried said. &#039;&#039;They weren&#039;t going to come double me, and I said &#039;I&#039;m going to score on this.&#039; There were no ifs, ands or buts about it. I was going to score.&#039;&#039;
Faried&#039;s driving layup gave the Nuggets a one-point lead they would not relinquish with 46.5 seconds remaining in overtime.
 
&#039;&#039;He made a big-time play,&#039;&#039; said Nuggets guard Ty Lawson, who finished with 11 points and nine assists. &#039;&#039;He took two dribbles, and the little jump-hook he&#039;d been working on, he hit.&#039;&#039;

Faried is a 6&#039;8&quot; power forward who just made the last second shot and won the game for the Nuggets and with the Thunder, it is alwaysDurant or Westbrook. There is no other choice but the two and other teams already know that strategy for a long time.

Brook, develop your big men and have plays for them. You only depend on Durant and Westbrook, it&#039;s a giveaway!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faried scored the go-ahead layup in overtime, and the Nuggets overcame 30-plus point performances from Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook to beat the Thunder 121-118 Sunday night, snapping Oklahoma City&#8217;s six-game winning streak.<br />
Brewer also set up Faried with a pass on his decisive drive to the basket.</p>
<p>&#8221;He gave me the ball and said, &#8216;Go to work,&#8221;&#8217; Faried said. &#8221;They weren&#8217;t going to come double me, and I said &#8216;I&#8217;m going to score on this.&#8217; There were no ifs, ands or buts about it. I was going to score.&#8221;<br />
Faried&#8217;s driving layup gave the Nuggets a one-point lead they would not relinquish with 46.5 seconds remaining in overtime.</p>
<p>&#8221;He made a big-time play,&#8221; said Nuggets guard Ty Lawson, who finished with 11 points and nine assists. &#8221;He took two dribbles, and the little jump-hook he&#8217;d been working on, he hit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Faried is a 6&#8217;8&#8243; power forward who just made the last second shot and won the game for the Nuggets and with the Thunder, it is alwaysDurant or Westbrook. There is no other choice but the two and other teams already know that strategy for a long time.</p>
<p>Brook, develop your big men and have plays for them. You only depend on Durant and Westbrook, it&#8217;s a giveaway!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why weren&#039;t playoff games considered?  Is the record ONLY for regular season games?  I realize its hard to gauge how many games that would be, but each season, those playoff games will add potentially 4-28 games, or 16-112 additional games over that time period.  

That makes the average a bit easier.  If Durant only plays in 4 playoff games each season until the cutoff point, he only needs to average 29.08 ppg.  If he plays in all 112 (an exceedingly unlikely possibility, mind you) he only has to average 22.09 ppg.  If we say that number falls somewhere in the middle of that spectrum at 48 additional playoff games before the cutoff, that&#039;s 26.31 ppg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why weren&#8217;t playoff games considered?  Is the record ONLY for regular season games?  I realize its hard to gauge how many games that would be, but each season, those playoff games will add potentially 4-28 games, or 16-112 additional games over that time period.  </p>
<p>That makes the average a bit easier.  If Durant only plays in 4 playoff games each season until the cutoff point, he only needs to average 29.08 ppg.  If he plays in all 112 (an exceedingly unlikely possibility, mind you) he only has to average 22.09 ppg.  If we say that number falls somewhere in the middle of that spectrum at 48 additional playoff games before the cutoff, that&#8217;s 26.31 ppg.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Durant can overtake LeBron who is in his 726 regular season, being he has already had those many poins, only if LeBron stops playing basketball but if he remains healthy, I believe he can make to 30,000 points. 

With Durant to hit 20,000 points at age 28, he will need about 30.4 points per game average for the next 4 years starting now.

Right now; 1. Kobe Bryant has 30,667 points, 2.  Kevin Garnett-24,856 points, 3. Dirk Nowitzki-24,342 points, 4. Ray Allen-23,355 points, Paul Pierce-23,352 points, 5. Tim Duncan-23,268 points, 6. Vince Carter-21,653 points, 7. LeBron James-20,046 points, 8. Antawn Jamison-19,505 points, 9. Tracy McGrady-18,381 points, 10. Jason Kidd-17,351 points.

Dwayne Wade is still down there, with Howard, Gasol, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Durant can overtake LeBron who is in his 726 regular season, being he has already had those many poins, only if LeBron stops playing basketball but if he remains healthy, I believe he can make to 30,000 points. </p>
<p>With Durant to hit 20,000 points at age 28, he will need about 30.4 points per game average for the next 4 years starting now.</p>
<p>Right now; 1. Kobe Bryant has 30,667 points, 2.  Kevin Garnett-24,856 points, 3. Dirk Nowitzki-24,342 points, 4. Ray Allen-23,355 points, Paul Pierce-23,352 points, 5. Tim Duncan-23,268 points, 6. Vince Carter-21,653 points, 7. LeBron James-20,046 points, 8. Antawn Jamison-19,505 points, 9. Tracy McGrady-18,381 points, 10. Jason Kidd-17,351 points.</p>
<p>Dwayne Wade is still down there, with Howard, Gasol, etc.</p>
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