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		<title>By: jack antonoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2012/12/19/a-trade-idea-for-anderson-varejao/comment-page-1/#comment-85733</link>
		<dc:creator>jack antonoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Winning a championship doesn&#039;t happen too often, but the memory lasts a lifetime. If you can get  the missing piece you do what you can.Varejo is a solid player .Try to work out a deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winning a championship doesn&#8217;t happen too often, but the memory lasts a lifetime. If you can get  the missing piece you do what you can.Varejo is a solid player .Try to work out a deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2012/12/19/a-trade-idea-for-anderson-varejao/comment-page-1/#comment-84161</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d rather see the Thunder go after Demarcous Cousins. Who we wouldn&#039;t have to give up as much for because he&#039;s a head case. He&#039;d be fine here surrounded by Durant. We&#039;d be unstoppable then. Varejo is old. We don&#039;t want old. I&#039;m tired of people asking about him. He&#039;s a risk because he can never stay healthy. Cavs fans are stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather see the Thunder go after Demarcous Cousins. Who we wouldn&#8217;t have to give up as much for because he&#8217;s a head case. He&#8217;d be fine here surrounded by Durant. We&#8217;d be unstoppable then. Varejo is old. We don&#8217;t want old. I&#8217;m tired of people asking about him. He&#8217;s a risk because he can never stay healthy. Cavs fans are stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only truth that comes out of this article is that Varejao for Perk/PJ3/Lamb/TOR Pick is a haul for Cleveland (I&#039;m a Cavs fan).  This offer is where the negotiations begin.

The reality is we have Varejao under a great contract for the next 3 years so really, we don&#039;t HAVE to do anything.  Everyone knows championship windows don&#039;t last, especially for small market teams.  OKC can win all the regular season games it wants but the fact is they have not proven they can compete with Miami in a 7 game series and that fact hasn&#039;t changed.  I&#039;d even argue that Miami has gotten better since last year by improving their bench AND they will more than likely have a much healthier Dwayne Wade in a finals rematch.

The idea of Kendrick Perkins holding any above average on court value to any NBA team relative to other players is a legend.  A myth floated around 4 years ago when Kendrick Perkins actually appeared relevant and the talking heads needed to assign some type of reason as to why the Celtics won a title, after the fact that it happened.  People like Kendrick Perkins because he&#039;s a leader and he plays with passion.  Great, why isn&#039;t Nelson Mandela playing for OKC then?  Varejao has been forced to become a leader for an inept Cavs squad for the last 3 years.  And he doesn&#039;t just lead by being passionate and vocal, he leads by actually providing energy and some type of on court impact.

TODAY, Anderson Varejao is at least on par with Kendrick Perkins in defending Dwight Howard, which I guess is the reason people say he is so important to the Thunder?  That in itself is a stupid strategy, you don&#039;t plan your team around the possibility of maybe facing one player in the playoffs.  There are chances you may not even see Howard in the playoffs this year...or any year after that.

But the real reason why Varejao is a significant upgrade over Perkins is on the offensive end of the ball.  Perkins is slow and provides negative value, while Varejao is a quick pick n roll player that can also create MULTIPLE extra offensive possessions a game.  AKA giving Durant and Westbrook more opportunities to shoot.  This thunder team isn&#039;t built on defense, it&#039;s built on the ability to outscore its opponents.  Varejao gives you a huge advantage on the offensive end by simply more shots attempted.

What&#039;s also comical is the idea that without Perkins and with an injured Varejao, OKC would somehow be worse of than it is now.  That&#039;s simply not the case, if only for the fact that it would allow OKC to play Nick Collison who already proves statistically better than Perkins.  

Sure the bench of OKC would be shorter if this trade was made...but do you really think PJ3 is going to smell the floor for as long as Kevin Durant is playing?  Lamb is insurance in case Martin leaves, I can see that.  But, you could also give him up in the deal and just ask for the Lakers pick that we have.  Miami didn&#039;t win a title with a deep roster and OKC needs a starting 5 that can outplay them if they have any shot at winning it all over the next 2 years.  

When you have a chance to make a move that can improve your team drastically right now and give you a better chance at a title for the next 4 years, you do it.  You don&#039;t know when that will happen again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only truth that comes out of this article is that Varejao for Perk/PJ3/Lamb/TOR Pick is a haul for Cleveland (I&#8217;m a Cavs fan).  This offer is where the negotiations begin.</p>
<p>The reality is we have Varejao under a great contract for the next 3 years so really, we don&#8217;t HAVE to do anything.  Everyone knows championship windows don&#8217;t last, especially for small market teams.  OKC can win all the regular season games it wants but the fact is they have not proven they can compete with Miami in a 7 game series and that fact hasn&#8217;t changed.  I&#8217;d even argue that Miami has gotten better since last year by improving their bench AND they will more than likely have a much healthier Dwayne Wade in a finals rematch.</p>
<p>The idea of Kendrick Perkins holding any above average on court value to any NBA team relative to other players is a legend.  A myth floated around 4 years ago when Kendrick Perkins actually appeared relevant and the talking heads needed to assign some type of reason as to why the Celtics won a title, after the fact that it happened.  People like Kendrick Perkins because he&#8217;s a leader and he plays with passion.  Great, why isn&#8217;t Nelson Mandela playing for OKC then?  Varejao has been forced to become a leader for an inept Cavs squad for the last 3 years.  And he doesn&#8217;t just lead by being passionate and vocal, he leads by actually providing energy and some type of on court impact.</p>
<p>TODAY, Anderson Varejao is at least on par with Kendrick Perkins in defending Dwight Howard, which I guess is the reason people say he is so important to the Thunder?  That in itself is a stupid strategy, you don&#8217;t plan your team around the possibility of maybe facing one player in the playoffs.  There are chances you may not even see Howard in the playoffs this year&#8230;or any year after that.</p>
<p>But the real reason why Varejao is a significant upgrade over Perkins is on the offensive end of the ball.  Perkins is slow and provides negative value, while Varejao is a quick pick n roll player that can also create MULTIPLE extra offensive possessions a game.  AKA giving Durant and Westbrook more opportunities to shoot.  This thunder team isn&#8217;t built on defense, it&#8217;s built on the ability to outscore its opponents.  Varejao gives you a huge advantage on the offensive end by simply more shots attempted.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s also comical is the idea that without Perkins and with an injured Varejao, OKC would somehow be worse of than it is now.  That&#8217;s simply not the case, if only for the fact that it would allow OKC to play Nick Collison who already proves statistically better than Perkins.  </p>
<p>Sure the bench of OKC would be shorter if this trade was made&#8230;but do you really think PJ3 is going to smell the floor for as long as Kevin Durant is playing?  Lamb is insurance in case Martin leaves, I can see that.  But, you could also give him up in the deal and just ask for the Lakers pick that we have.  Miami didn&#8217;t win a title with a deep roster and OKC needs a starting 5 that can outplay them if they have any shot at winning it all over the next 2 years.  </p>
<p>When you have a chance to make a move that can improve your team drastically right now and give you a better chance at a title for the next 4 years, you do it.  You don&#8217;t know when that will happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: DT Mailbag: Sorting the Thunder &#124; Daily Thunder.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2012/12/19/a-trade-idea-for-anderson-varejao/comment-page-1/#comment-83210</link>
		<dc:creator>DT Mailbag: Sorting the Thunder &#124; Daily Thunder.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Darnell Mayberry offered an extended take where he reasoned that Varejao has had injury issues in the past plus the deal would be anti-Thunder culture, dealing away a guy like Perk with young talent and a valuable asset like the pick. The question about this deal is, what&#8217;s most important? Winning now, or positioning to potentially win later? I don&#8217;t see any way around it: The Thunder with Andy Varejao as their center are a better Thunder. OKC&#8217;s obviously very good as is, but Varejao is a special player that can rebound, run pick-and-roll brilliantly, and defend the post. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Darnell Mayberry offered an extended take where he reasoned that Varejao has had injury issues in the past plus the deal would be anti-Thunder culture, dealing away a guy like Perk with young talent and a valuable asset like the pick. The question about this deal is, what&#8217;s most important? Winning now, or positioning to potentially win later? I don&#8217;t see any way around it: The Thunder with Andy Varejao as their center are a better Thunder. OKC&#8217;s obviously very good as is, but Varejao is a special player that can rebound, run pick-and-roll brilliantly, and defend the post. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RMH</title>
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		<dc:creator>RMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who doubts Perk&#039;s value to a title contender has not followed championship basketball. He&#039;s one of the main reasons the C&#039;s won the title and if he played in game seven two years later they probably win another title. Varajeo is having his best season because he is the second option to a really great point guard. OKC would regret this trade, the minute they made it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who doubts Perk&#8217;s value to a title contender has not followed championship basketball. He&#8217;s one of the main reasons the C&#8217;s won the title and if he played in game seven two years later they probably win another title. Varajeo is having his best season because he is the second option to a really great point guard. OKC would regret this trade, the minute they made it.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the Toronto pick is the best trade chip the thunder has going forward .. 

no way you trade what would be = to 3 first rounders and perk for any single player .. that is not a young all star]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Toronto pick is the best trade chip the thunder has going forward .. </p>
<p>no way you trade what would be = to 3 first rounders and perk for any single player .. that is not a young all star</p>
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		<title>By: Am I crazy?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Am I crazy?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like Varejao.  He would make a nice addition.  Sounds that a deal would work from a $$$ standpoint, at least in the near-term.

With all the talk about the Laker&#039;s struggles, and their desire to move Pao Gasol, I wonder if a Perk and Maynor for Gasol deal doesn&#039;t make more sense.  Once again, I realize that this would be more of a short-term strategy, but I would be loving our odds this year in the finals with him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Varejao.  He would make a nice addition.  Sounds that a deal would work from a $$$ standpoint, at least in the near-term.</p>
<p>With all the talk about the Laker&#8217;s struggles, and their desire to move Pao Gasol, I wonder if a Perk and Maynor for Gasol deal doesn&#8217;t make more sense.  Once again, I realize that this would be more of a short-term strategy, but I would be loving our odds this year in the finals with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Royce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Royce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perkins is the weak link in the &quot;New&quot; NBA.  He is great to guard traditional centers like Dwight Howard but lost against Chris Bosh and a liability because of limited mobility.  The &quot;New&quot; NBA plays forwards at center and the Heat will be around for a few years with that configuration.  Vereajao can guard anyone on a switch and the defensive chemistry will be that much better.  Not to mention he is Rodman like in getting rebounds and keeping balls alive.  That last tweak to the Thunder will make them formidable for the next few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perkins is the weak link in the &#8220;New&#8221; NBA.  He is great to guard traditional centers like Dwight Howard but lost against Chris Bosh and a liability because of limited mobility.  The &#8220;New&#8221; NBA plays forwards at center and the Heat will be around for a few years with that configuration.  Vereajao can guard anyone on a switch and the defensive chemistry will be that much better.  Not to mention he is Rodman like in getting rebounds and keeping balls alive.  That last tweak to the Thunder will make them formidable for the next few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Thursday Bolts &#8211; 12.20.12 &#124; Daily Thunder.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2012/12/19/a-trade-idea-for-anderson-varejao/comment-page-1/#comment-83140</link>
		<dc:creator>Thursday Bolts &#8211; 12.20.12 &#124; Daily Thunder.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Darnell Mayberry&#8217;s take on the trade speculation: &#8220;Meanwhile, it’s impossible to overstate how important pieces like Lamb and Jones and the Toronto pick are to the Thunder. Parting ways with those players and assets could go a long way toward destroying the Thunder’s future. Lamb, Jones and Reggie Jackson aren’t just promising players. They’re pivotal players, young bloods who will be integral to the Thunder’s future financial state as well as its future goal of flanking Durant, Russell Westbrook and Serge Ibaka with adequate talent. Luring a player like Varejao at the expense of those young players wouldn’t hurt the Thunder’s salary structure now. But it could devastate it down the line. The reason is because with Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka all inked to lucrative contracts, the Thunder is banking on cheap labor like Jones, Lamb and Jackson. All are on rookie scale contracts for the next two to three seasons. The Toronto pick, even if it ends up the fourth overall selection, will come in on another manageable rookie scale deal of less than $4 million for the first two years.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Darnell Mayberry&#8217;s take on the trade speculation: &#8220;Meanwhile, it’s impossible to overstate how important pieces like Lamb and Jones and the Toronto pick are to the Thunder. Parting ways with those players and assets could go a long way toward destroying the Thunder’s future. Lamb, Jones and Reggie Jackson aren’t just promising players. They’re pivotal players, young bloods who will be integral to the Thunder’s future financial state as well as its future goal of flanking Durant, Russell Westbrook and Serge Ibaka with adequate talent. Luring a player like Varejao at the expense of those young players wouldn’t hurt the Thunder’s salary structure now. But it could devastate it down the line. The reason is because with Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka all inked to lucrative contracts, the Thunder is banking on cheap labor like Jones, Lamb and Jackson. All are on rookie scale contracts for the next two to three seasons. The Toronto pick, even if it ends up the fourth overall selection, will come in on another manageable rookie scale deal of less than $4 million for the first two years.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hasheem Thabeet should have a chance to start. In very limited minutes he has been really good this season. Imagine what he could do as a starter. Forget Varejao they&#039;d have to give up to much for him, including two players that good have a very good future. Make Hasheem the starter and put perks and mayby orton on the bench in case he gets in foul trouble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasheem Thabeet should have a chance to start. In very limited minutes he has been really good this season. Imagine what he could do as a starter. Forget Varejao they&#8217;d have to give up to much for him, including two players that good have a very good future. Make Hasheem the starter and put perks and mayby orton on the bench in case he gets in foul trouble.</p>
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