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	<title>Comments on: Thunder Trades Wilcox for Rose</title>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2009/02/19/thunder-trades-rose-for-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-2101</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a feeling that Prestis&#039; background with the Spurs had a hand in this deal, just like the Brent Barry/Kurt Thomas deal last year.  I&#039;m willing to bet that they buy-out Malik Rose who in turn signs with the Spurs, who happen to be looking for another big man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a feeling that Prestis&#8217; background with the Spurs had a hand in this deal, just like the Brent Barry/Kurt Thomas deal last year.  I&#8217;m willing to bet that they buy-out Malik Rose who in turn signs with the Spurs, who happen to be looking for another big man.</p>
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		<title>By: CGHill</title>
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		<dc:creator>CGHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Presti, it seems to me, places a high value on the intangibles; he knows Rose from his days with the Spurs, and evidently he sees something there that&#039;s worth more than the piddling amount of cash the Knicks might have shipped.

Elsewhere, I&#039;ve seen a theory to the effect that Presti is trying to do something for Weezy, who&#039;s been with the franchise for years; if he has a chance to play in New York and not much chance to play here, why not give him that opportunity?  Certainly Wilcox was more highly valued around these parts than, say, Mo Sene, who&#039;s on his way to clearing waivers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presti, it seems to me, places a high value on the intangibles; he knows Rose from his days with the Spurs, and evidently he sees something there that&#8217;s worth more than the piddling amount of cash the Knicks might have shipped.</p>
<p>Elsewhere, I&#8217;ve seen a theory to the effect that Presti is trying to do something for Weezy, who&#8217;s been with the franchise for years; if he has a chance to play in New York and not much chance to play here, why not give him that opportunity?  Certainly Wilcox was more highly valued around these parts than, say, Mo Sene, who&#8217;s on his way to clearing waivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Presti traded a first round pick for Sefolosha then he got taken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Presti traded a first round pick for Sefolosha then he got taken.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DM, how about $2 mil? $1 mil to cover Rose&#039;s contract and $1 mil to buy out Joe Smith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DM, how about $2 mil? $1 mil to cover Rose&#8217;s contract and $1 mil to buy out Joe Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2009/02/19/thunder-trades-rose-for-wilcox/comment-page-1/#comment-2097</link>
		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did we just trade for Thabo Sefolosha?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did we just trade for Thabo Sefolosha?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Darnell, two words: Cash Considerations. That&#039;s why this deal was done.&lt;/p&gt;

(&lt;em&gt;Ron, I haven&#039;t confirmed this yet, but the cash likely isn&#039;t significant enough to do this deal. Rose is making $1 million more than Wilcox and the max you can send in a trade is $3 million. I doubt the Knicks sent the Thunder $3 million. If they did, that would be a generous gesture. -DM-&lt;/em&gt;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darnell, two words: Cash Considerations. That&#8217;s why this deal was done.</p>
<p>(<em>Ron, I haven&#8217;t confirmed this yet, but the cash likely isn&#8217;t significant enough to do this deal. Rose is making $1 million more than Wilcox and the max you can send in a trade is $3 million. I doubt the Knicks sent the Thunder $3 million. If they did, that would be a generous gesture. -DM-</em>)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Darnell...any truth to this rumor?

Thursday, 3:55 p.m.: Bulls send Sefolosha to Thunder
Chicago is dealing Thabo Sefolosha to Oklahoma City for a 2009 first-round pick, a league source said. The Thunder own the first-round picks of the Suns and Nuggets, and will send the least valuable pick to Chicago in exchange for Sefalosha.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darnell&#8230;any truth to this rumor?</p>
<p>Thursday, 3:55 p.m.: Bulls send Sefolosha to Thunder<br />
Chicago is dealing Thabo Sefolosha to Oklahoma City for a 2009 first-round pick, a league source said. The Thunder own the first-round picks of the Suns and Nuggets, and will send the least valuable pick to Chicago in exchange for Sefalosha.</p>
<p><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200" rel="nofollow">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200</a>&#8230;x.html?eref=T1</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this just to get rid of Wilcox?... I guess he/we are better off with the trade.  We werent going to sign him back next year anyway.  Would have liked to have gotten more value for him, but the market must be just that bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this just to get rid of Wilcox?&#8230; I guess he/we are better off with the trade.  We werent going to sign him back next year anyway.  Would have liked to have gotten more value for him, but the market must be just that bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Darnell, can you explain the value of expiring contracts and what happens to the players when their contract expires?  For instance, if the Chandler for Smith/Wilcox trade had gone through, would the Hornets have just let Smith and Wilcox go at the end of the season?  And would anyone pick them up for next season and would it be for a smaller salary?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And how does that benefit the Hornets, don&#039;t they have to go out and get 2 more players somewhere for some amount of salary to replace them?  Is the benefit that they get players with significantly smaller salaries?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On espn.com, they list the rosters and salaries.  They also show transactios by year.  They show Swift was &quot;Resigned&quot; on Sept 11, 2008.  His salary this year is 3.5 million plus.  How did this happen, at best he&#039;s a body to give 5 fouls and at worst a complete waste of bench space...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(&lt;em&gt;Eddie, teams often like to trade for expiring contracts because the salaries come off the payroll the upcoming summer. With the Hornets, the deal would have saved them nearly $12 million in salary next season because, yes, it&#039;s likely they would have let Wilcox and Smith walk after this season. They would have had the option of re-signing them like every other team at whatever amount of money they saw fit. The Hornets wouldn&#039;t be obligated to replace them with two more players. The only rule is NBA teams must keep 12 players on their rosters. As for Swift, he is playing on what is known as a fifth-year qualifying offer. It&#039;s the last year that&#039;s built into rookie scale contracts, which are for two guaranteed seasons and two seasons with team options. Swift&#039;s is playing on the fifth year of his contract because he didn&#039;t get a contract extension from the Thunder in the fall of 2007 and didn&#039;t receive any offers from other teams as a restricted free agent this summer. His salary figure is determined by the rookie scale. Here&#039;s a cloumn of expiring contracts. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/steve_aschburner/02/17/expiring.contracts/index.html -DM-&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darnell, can you explain the value of expiring contracts and what happens to the players when their contract expires?  For instance, if the Chandler for Smith/Wilcox trade had gone through, would the Hornets have just let Smith and Wilcox go at the end of the season?  And would anyone pick them up for next season and would it be for a smaller salary?  </p>
<p>And how does that benefit the Hornets, don&#8217;t they have to go out and get 2 more players somewhere for some amount of salary to replace them?  Is the benefit that they get players with significantly smaller salaries?  </p>
<p>On espn.com, they list the rosters and salaries.  They also show transactios by year.  They show Swift was &#8220;Resigned&#8221; on Sept 11, 2008.  His salary this year is 3.5 million plus.  How did this happen, at best he&#8217;s a body to give 5 fouls and at worst a complete waste of bench space&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks&#8230;</p>
<p>(<em>Eddie, teams often like to trade for expiring contracts because the salaries come off the payroll the upcoming summer. With the Hornets, the deal would have saved them nearly $12 million in salary next season because, yes, it&#8217;s likely they would have let Wilcox and Smith walk after this season. They would have had the option of re-signing them like every other team at whatever amount of money they saw fit. The Hornets wouldn&#8217;t be obligated to replace them with two more players. The only rule is NBA teams must keep 12 players on their rosters. As for Swift, he is playing on what is known as a fifth-year qualifying offer. It&#8217;s the last year that&#8217;s built into rookie scale contracts, which are for two guaranteed seasons and two seasons with team options. Swift&#8217;s is playing on the fifth year of his contract because he didn&#8217;t get a contract extension from the Thunder in the fall of 2007 and didn&#8217;t receive any offers from other teams as a restricted free agent this summer. His salary figure is determined by the rookie scale. Here&#8217;s a cloumn of expiring contracts. <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/steve_aschburner/02/17/expiring.contracts/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/steve_aschburner/02/17/expiring.contracts/index.html</a> -DM-</em>)</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Lewison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Lewison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Darnell,&lt;br /&gt;
Why did we make this trade? One expiring contract for another one that is higher in value.&lt;/p&gt;

(&lt;em&gt;Amy, I honestly can say I do not know.That&#039;s the question I&#039;m searching high and low for an answer to as we speak. -DM-&lt;/em&gt;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darnell,<br />
Why did we make this trade? One expiring contract for another one that is higher in value.</p>
<p>(<em>Amy, I honestly can say I do not know.That&#8217;s the question I&#8217;m searching high and low for an answer to as we speak. -DM-</em>)</p>
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