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	<title>Comments on: Sonics, Sonics and more Sonics (Part II)</title>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2008/04/08/sonics-sonics-and-more-sonics-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, unfortunately, Jill, you have to understand it is pretty hard for a city and state to get an arena built for a team when that team&#039;s owner won&#039;t even listen to their proposals.

And if you think that we blindly follow and believe everything that Gregoire says just because you do the same with Bennett, doesn&#039;t meant that we actually do. We know far better than you do about Gregoire&#039;s role in this and that is why she won&#039;t be our governor next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, unfortunately, Jill, you have to understand it is pretty hard for a city and state to get an arena built for a team when that team&#8217;s owner won&#8217;t even listen to their proposals.</p>
<p>And if you think that we blindly follow and believe everything that Gregoire says just because you do the same with Bennett, doesn&#8217;t meant that we actually do. We know far better than you do about Gregoire&#8217;s role in this and that is why she won&#8217;t be our governor next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2008/04/11/2004343410.pdf

So, Ballmer must still have his $150 million floating around out there.  I thought the proposal had a deadline of April 10th, and the mayor said it was &quot;dead&quot;.  The mayor and Ballmer couldn&#039;t possibly have been lying to the Governor and the legislature in an attempt to suck that $75 million out of them before April 10th could they?  I&#039;d love to see their e-mails, although they may have learned their lesson from Bennett and only talk on throw away cell phones.  May God strike me dead if Gregoire, Nickels, Ballmer and Gorton have never told a lie for personal or political gain.

Gregoire is shocked that she was &quot;lied&quot; to.  Wonder how many she&#039;s told in her political career.  This makes a great smokescreen and gets the public angry at Bennett when the fact is that Chopp, Gregoire, Nickels and the city council knew they had a year (15 months actually) to come up with an arena plan and they blew it off.  All the &quot;lies&quot; were completely unknown to her, so they had no effect on her behavior in that 15 months and yet she still did nothing.]]></description>
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<p>So, Ballmer must still have his $150 million floating around out there.  I thought the proposal had a deadline of April 10th, and the mayor said it was &#8220;dead&#8221;.  The mayor and Ballmer couldn&#8217;t possibly have been lying to the Governor and the legislature in an attempt to suck that $75 million out of them before April 10th could they?  I&#8217;d love to see their e-mails, although they may have learned their lesson from Bennett and only talk on throw away cell phones.  May God strike me dead if Gregoire, Nickels, Ballmer and Gorton have never told a lie for personal or political gain.</p>
<p>Gregoire is shocked that she was &#8220;lied&#8221; to.  Wonder how many she&#8217;s told in her political career.  This makes a great smokescreen and gets the public angry at Bennett when the fact is that Chopp, Gregoire, Nickels and the city council knew they had a year (15 months actually) to come up with an arena plan and they blew it off.  All the &#8220;lies&#8221; were completely unknown to her, so they had no effect on her behavior in that 15 months and yet she still did nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: michael u.</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael u.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YEAH, I CAN SEE lEBRON SAYING &quot;SHOOT, THERE ARE MILES AND MILES OF SHORELINE, WHY CANT MY AGENT GET ME A JOB WITH THEM&quot;&quot;!hahaha! PHILLIP, YOU NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME. AS FAR AS, CUTTING INTO CUBAN&#039;S MARKET. I CAN ALMOST SEE HIM GIVE YOU THE PERSONAL FINGER. YOU CANT CUT INTO A MARKET THAT HAS HAD BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK WINNING SEASONS, AND, ONE OF THE EW TEAMS MAKING MONEY. HIS BUSINESS MODEL ISNT BROKE, BECAUSE, HE THINKS ABOUT THE &quot;BIG&quot; PICTURE. CHRIS PAUL TOLD MORE THAN A FEW FANS, HE WOULD ASK TO BE TRADED BEFORE TRYING TO FIND A NICE RESTUARANT TO EAT AT, OR, SOME CLUBS TO TAKE HIS &quot;POSSE&quot; OUT TO, IF THE HORNETS WERE RELOCATED TO OKIE CITY. I REMEMBER PHILLIP SAYING ALL THE HORNETS PLAYERS HAD GOOD THINGS TO SAY. ANOTHER LIE PHILLIP, JUST LIKE CLAYBOY. I BET YOU STILL TRY THE &quot;DOG ATE MY HOMEWORK&quot; WITH YOUR BOSS AT 7-11. SEE YA IN JUNE. BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO GET TRULY UGLY!!!!

MIKE U.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEAH, I CAN SEE lEBRON SAYING &#8220;SHOOT, THERE ARE MILES AND MILES OF SHORELINE, WHY CANT MY AGENT GET ME A JOB WITH THEM&#8221;"!hahaha! PHILLIP, YOU NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME. AS FAR AS, CUTTING INTO CUBAN&#8217;S MARKET. I CAN ALMOST SEE HIM GIVE YOU THE PERSONAL FINGER. YOU CANT CUT INTO A MARKET THAT HAS HAD BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK WINNING SEASONS, AND, ONE OF THE EW TEAMS MAKING MONEY. HIS BUSINESS MODEL ISNT BROKE, BECAUSE, HE THINKS ABOUT THE &#8220;BIG&#8221; PICTURE. CHRIS PAUL TOLD MORE THAN A FEW FANS, HE WOULD ASK TO BE TRADED BEFORE TRYING TO FIND A NICE RESTUARANT TO EAT AT, OR, SOME CLUBS TO TAKE HIS &#8220;POSSE&#8221; OUT TO, IF THE HORNETS WERE RELOCATED TO OKIE CITY. I REMEMBER PHILLIP SAYING ALL THE HORNETS PLAYERS HAD GOOD THINGS TO SAY. ANOTHER LIE PHILLIP, JUST LIKE CLAYBOY. I BET YOU STILL TRY THE &#8220;DOG ATE MY HOMEWORK&#8221; WITH YOUR BOSS AT 7-11. SEE YA IN JUNE. BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO GET TRULY UGLY!!!!</p>
<p>MIKE U.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joey.  I have to laugh at any Moron that would think being within 100 miles of a lake makes for a better setting than being a city that has its entire eastern border being Lake Washington and the entire western border being Puget Sound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey.  I have to laugh at any Moron that would think being within 100 miles of a lake makes for a better setting than being a city that has its entire eastern border being Lake Washington and the entire western border being Puget Sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In defense of the writer of this blog he has been pretty open about posting information both good and bad.

Yes the OKC media is going to present the news based on the point of view of their region but that doesn&#039;t mean they are covering things up.

What they are not doing is taking any critical look at the situation.  It is their responsibility to dig into this issue for the good of the people of OKC.  To find out what is really happening.  What did the Mayor know, when did he know it, and just how deeply does the corruption go?

Public disclosure of emails and hard hitting questions asked of those in positions to know is what good and responsible reporting is about.

Most important is to present the readers with stories that show not just the joy of pursuing an NBA team but what is a reasonable expectation for the behavior of their elected officials.

You can want the NBA, that is a good thing, but you should want it on the right terms.  Taking any team you can get no matter what kind of illegal activity it takes to get it should not be allowed.  The people of OKC should be demanding a full account of what is going on and asking why the City is giving Clay Bennett an open checkbook when no other city does that.

They should be demanding that the city disassociate themselves with Clay Bennett and start pursuing other options.  Expansion or a team from a city that is ready to let them go.  They are out there, you don&#039;t have to rip a 41 year franchise from a market that supports it, and is fighting tooth and nail to keep it.

You can justify it anyway you want but stealing something that isn&#039;t yours isn&#039;t right.  PERIOD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of the writer of this blog he has been pretty open about posting information both good and bad.</p>
<p>Yes the OKC media is going to present the news based on the point of view of their region but that doesn&#8217;t mean they are covering things up.</p>
<p>What they are not doing is taking any critical look at the situation.  It is their responsibility to dig into this issue for the good of the people of OKC.  To find out what is really happening.  What did the Mayor know, when did he know it, and just how deeply does the corruption go?</p>
<p>Public disclosure of emails and hard hitting questions asked of those in positions to know is what good and responsible reporting is about.</p>
<p>Most important is to present the readers with stories that show not just the joy of pursuing an NBA team but what is a reasonable expectation for the behavior of their elected officials.</p>
<p>You can want the NBA, that is a good thing, but you should want it on the right terms.  Taking any team you can get no matter what kind of illegal activity it takes to get it should not be allowed.  The people of OKC should be demanding a full account of what is going on and asking why the City is giving Clay Bennett an open checkbook when no other city does that.</p>
<p>They should be demanding that the city disassociate themselves with Clay Bennett and start pursuing other options.  Expansion or a team from a city that is ready to let them go.  They are out there, you don&#8217;t have to rip a 41 year franchise from a market that supports it, and is fighting tooth and nail to keep it.</p>
<p>You can justify it anyway you want but stealing something that isn&#8217;t yours isn&#8217;t right.  PERIOD.</p>
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		<title>By: joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[those e-mails are hideous. the entire state of oklahoma should be ashamed!
and cleanse themselves in their hundreds of miles of lake shoreline. wow! i think we 1000s of miles of lake shoreline, and an actual coast!!! phillip, that was a cute little fun fact!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those e-mails are hideous. the entire state of oklahoma should be ashamed!<br />
and cleanse themselves in their hundreds of miles of lake shoreline. wow! i think we 1000s of miles of lake shoreline, and an actual coast!!! phillip, that was a cute little fun fact!!</p>
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		<title>By: that guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>that guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I would never breach your trust. As absolutely remarkable as it may seem, Aubrey and I have NEVER discussed moving the Sonics to Oklahoma City, nor have I discussed it with ANY other member of our ownership group.&quot;

a very classy individual.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would never breach your trust. As absolutely remarkable as it may seem, Aubrey and I have NEVER discussed moving the Sonics to Oklahoma City, nor have I discussed it with ANY other member of our ownership group.&#8221;</p>
<p>a very classy individual.</p>
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		<title>By: SEATTLE Sonic fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEATTLE Sonic fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why has the Oklahoma media not reported the story about Bennett and company&#039;s emails? Would it make the ownership look bad? It is too bad that the great state of Oklahoma has rich people who would conspire and lie unrepentantly to get what they want. These people are civic leaders? Oklahoma Hall of Fame? What does that say about the leaders of Oklahoma? Unfortuantely, only badly.

(&lt;em&gt;SS, one more thing. Little did I know, we&#039;ve had this story (an AP version) on our site since &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsok.com/article/3228073/1207840165&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;10:30 this morning&lt;/a&gt;. -DM-&lt;/em&gt;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why has the Oklahoma media not reported the story about Bennett and company&#8217;s emails? Would it make the ownership look bad? It is too bad that the great state of Oklahoma has rich people who would conspire and lie unrepentantly to get what they want. These people are civic leaders? Oklahoma Hall of Fame? What does that say about the leaders of Oklahoma? Unfortuantely, only badly.</p>
<p>(<em>SS, one more thing. Little did I know, we&#8217;ve had this story (an AP version) on our site since <a href="http://newsok.com/article/3228073/1207840165" rel="nofollow">10:30 this morning</a>. -DM-</em>)</p>
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		<title>By: SEATTLE Sonics</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEATTLE Sonics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cant&#039;s wait to see the Oklahoman&#039;s take on Bennett&#039;s emails. DM, when can we expect the paper to cover this story?

(&lt;em&gt;SS, a 577-word post has just been dedicated to it, and a story will be in Friday&#039;s paper. Before you rush to some sort of conspiracy theory, I&#039;ll have you know that neither the Seattle P-I or the Tacoma News Tribune have anything on their sites as I type this comment at 12:30 Central Time. It&#039;s what you call breaking news. The Seattle Times reporter did a heck of a job and got the scoop on great bit of news. -DM-)&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cant&#8217;s wait to see the Oklahoman&#8217;s take on Bennett&#8217;s emails. DM, when can we expect the paper to cover this story?</p>
<p>(<em>SS, a 577-word post has just been dedicated to it, and a story will be in Friday&#8217;s paper. Before you rush to some sort of conspiracy theory, I&#8217;ll have you know that neither the Seattle P-I or the Tacoma News Tribune have anything on their sites as I type this comment at 12:30 Central Time. It&#8217;s what you call breaking news. The Seattle Times reporter did a heck of a job and got the scoop on great bit of news. -DM-)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Fillip! I am an idiot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Fillip! I am an idiot!</p>
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