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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Yuppie 911&#8242; revisited: Is fining the transgressors a good idea? by bob doucette</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/10/31/yuppie-911-revisited-is-fining-the-transgressors-a-good-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>bob doucette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill: In Colorado, SAR is free. In other words, you won&#039;t be billed if you need rescue from SAR. But you can buy a one-year SAR card for $3 that helps fund local search and rescue, or buy a five-year card for $10 (I think). Money well spent, IMO. In case of heli-rescue, the local National Guard will do it and chalk it up as a training exercise. However, things like medical helicopter transport are billable to you. In the latter two cases, these are entities different from SAR. Not sure what the procedure is for Oklahoma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill: In Colorado, SAR is free. In other words, you won&#8217;t be billed if you need rescue from SAR. But you can buy a one-year SAR card for $3 that helps fund local search and rescue, or buy a five-year card for $10 (I think). Money well spent, IMO. In case of heli-rescue, the local National Guard will do it and chalk it up as a training exercise. However, things like medical helicopter transport are billable to you. In the latter two cases, these are entities different from SAR. Not sure what the procedure is for Oklahoma.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Yuppie 911&#8242; revisited: Is fining the transgressors a good idea? by Bill Becquart</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/10/31/yuppie-911-revisited-is-fining-the-transgressors-a-good-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Becquart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard thru the grapevine that some states have free SAR, Providing the person has a fishing and/or hunting licence for that state.

Other than the grapeview, I have not seen that anywhere in print. Does anyone know if that is true or is a myth ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard thru the grapevine that some states have free SAR, Providing the person has a fishing and/or hunting licence for that state.</p>
<p>Other than the grapeview, I have not seen that anywhere in print. Does anyone know if that is true or is a myth ??</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outdoor outrage: &#8216;Yuppie 911&#8242; by Bill Becquart</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/10/27/outdoor-outrage-yuppie-911/comment-page-1/#comment-732</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Becquart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a Great article in the latest issue of &quot;National Geographic -  Adventure&quot; Magazine (pg 32) &quot;Deep Survival by Laurence Gonzales. (December 2009 / January 2010 Issue)

Title
Most backcountry searches don&#039;t cost the victim a dime. Let&#039;s keep it that way

It is the belief of the author that the victim should never be charged for the rescue, do to the fact that if the victim thinks they will be charged a lot of $$, they will hesitate calling SAR and possibly &quot;make matters worse&quot;.

I point out this article, because it gives this topic a different spin on what we have been talking about.

Read it..before commenting on it
so you will have a full understanding of what HE is talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a Great article in the latest issue of &#8220;National Geographic &#8211;  Adventure&#8221; Magazine (pg 32) &#8220;Deep Survival by Laurence Gonzales. (December 2009 / January 2010 Issue)</p>
<p>Title<br />
Most backcountry searches don&#8217;t cost the victim a dime. Let&#8217;s keep it that way</p>
<p>It is the belief of the author that the victim should never be charged for the rescue, do to the fact that if the victim thinks they will be charged a lot of $$, they will hesitate calling SAR and possibly &#8220;make matters worse&#8221;.</p>
<p>I point out this article, because it gives this topic a different spin on what we have been talking about.</p>
<p>Read it..before commenting on it<br />
so you will have a full understanding of what HE is talking about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Campsite shelters: Hammocks vs. tents by bob doucette</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/11/17/campsite-shelters-hammocks-vs-tents/comment-page-1/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>bob doucette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still a skeptic. In cold temps, all that air around you can&#039;t be helpful. If it&#039;s windy, there&#039;s other issues. And if you&#039;re going to make a tent from something using tent poles, again, wind becomes a serious issue. However, I&#039;d totally do this in milder temps. And like I noted at the top of the post, it worked in the Canadian Yukon for Ed Wardle. Maybe I&#039;ll have to try the hammock technique the next time I&#039;m out in your neck of the woods!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still a skeptic. In cold temps, all that air around you can&#8217;t be helpful. If it&#8217;s windy, there&#8217;s other issues. And if you&#8217;re going to make a tent from something using tent poles, again, wind becomes a serious issue. However, I&#8217;d totally do this in milder temps. And like I noted at the top of the post, it worked in the Canadian Yukon for Ed Wardle. Maybe I&#8217;ll have to try the hammock technique the next time I&#8217;m out in your neck of the woods!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Campsite shelters: Hammocks vs. tents by Ben</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/11/17/campsite-shelters-hammocks-vs-tents/comment-page-1/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the right hammock (one with a rain fly) your heat is contained in the same way a tent contains your body heat.  We did learn the lesson of not having some kind of a sleeping pad under us on cold nights, it was miserable.  Lastly, a &#039;good&#039; hammock with the use of the rain fly and trekking poles can be rigged into a make-shift tent in the event there are no trees available.  It is not nearly as comfortable, but it works.  Oh Bob, a hammock is the only way to go.

From your friends in East Asia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the right hammock (one with a rain fly) your heat is contained in the same way a tent contains your body heat.  We did learn the lesson of not having some kind of a sleeping pad under us on cold nights, it was miserable.  Lastly, a &#8216;good&#8217; hammock with the use of the rain fly and trekking poles can be rigged into a make-shift tent in the event there are no trees available.  It is not nearly as comfortable, but it works.  Oh Bob, a hammock is the only way to go.</p>
<p>From your friends in East Asia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Camping tips: Making the campsite more comfortable by bob doucette</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/11/11/1156/comment-page-1/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>bob doucette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it&#039;s the type of chair I was referring to -- lightweight, easily packed, etc. And the type of stove -- one that it very compact and light, versus one that is bulkier. And not a flashlight, but a lightweight headlamp. Read carefully here -- it&#039;s all about cutting weight but still bringing some things that add to your comfort. And just for grins, I think the word you&#039;re looking for is &quot;genius.&quot;
Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it&#8217;s the type of chair I was referring to &#8212; lightweight, easily packed, etc. And the type of stove &#8212; one that it very compact and light, versus one that is bulkier. And not a flashlight, but a lightweight headlamp. Read carefully here &#8212; it&#8217;s all about cutting weight but still bringing some things that add to your comfort. And just for grins, I think the word you&#8217;re looking for is &#8220;genius.&#8221;<br />
Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Camping tips: Making the campsite more comfortable by dahmer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/11/11/1156/comment-page-1/#comment-725</link>
		<dc:creator>dahmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so bring a chair stove and flashlight. oh really.

I dont think I could have ever figured out to bring these items on my own!

Genious!

waste of internet space</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so bring a chair stove and flashlight. oh really.</p>
<p>I dont think I could have ever figured out to bring these items on my own!</p>
<p>Genious!</p>
<p>waste of internet space</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hiking/climbing tips: Dealing with a fear of heights by bob doucette</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/11/10/hikingclimbing-tips-dealing-with-a-fear-of-heights/comment-page-1/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>bob doucette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine what it was like to take it! I still get the willies every time I think about taking that shot. That said, the particular dropoff on that peak is easily avoided on the summit. And it&#039;s a beautiful peak that I&#039;m glad I climbed. Just need to watch your step in certain places, if you get my drift.

I&#039;m still working on my own misgivings about high-exposure areas, so I&#039;m right there with ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine what it was like to take it! I still get the willies every time I think about taking that shot. That said, the particular dropoff on that peak is easily avoided on the summit. And it&#8217;s a beautiful peak that I&#8217;m glad I climbed. Just need to watch your step in certain places, if you get my drift.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still working on my own misgivings about high-exposure areas, so I&#8217;m right there with ya.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hiking/climbing tips: Dealing with a fear of heights by Aaron</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/11/10/hikingclimbing-tips-dealing-with-a-fear-of-heights/comment-page-1/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The third one scares me just looking at the picture of looking down.  Heights are definitely not my thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The third one scares me just looking at the picture of looking down.  Heights are definitely not my thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outdoor outrage: &#8216;Yuppie 911&#8242; by Jason</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/outthere/2009/10/27/outdoor-outrage-yuppie-911/comment-page-1/#comment-706</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should absolutely, positively be NO OPTION to refuse rescue.  Think how much money would have been saved had these people at the Grand Canyon been yanked out after that first frivolous call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should absolutely, positively be NO OPTION to refuse rescue.  Think how much money would have been saved had these people at the Grand Canyon been yanked out after that first frivolous call.</p>
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