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Comment on Bears, bucks, bass and mountain climbing by Luther Monnier

Luther Monnier — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:30:26 +0000

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Comment on Deer harvest was down by Andy

Andy — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:58:18 +0000

Well the 2011 season is in the books and after considerable “lobbying” my neighbors, I got a reprieve on the doe hunting before the rut. It was amazing and due to the QDM agreements we got to watch many chases and pass up the little guys. The rut lasted longer in our area due to the drought that left lots of lactating does in poor condition and caused them to cycle late and presumably more than once based on some of the photos of does that migrated in during the rut.
I am expanding the nutritional supplement area this year and after the documentation that I passed to the other landowners this year (not to mention some of them shot the big bucks I grew while the drought produced scrubs most other local areas)at least some of them may take steps to improve nutrition. As usual you have the ones that don’t want to put anything back but are hanging out on the other side of the fence, sometimes with a spotlight to harvest your trophy but that’s life in Oklahoma. At any rate, any time the wind would die down at dusk or dawn (especially during rifle season), whenever you saw a doe this year, it would only be minutes before one or more bucks would show up and the chase was on. This was my most exciting deer hunt in decades.
One evening as it was getting dark we had three chases within 50 yards going on at the same time.
While most of the soils in my local area are very poor and there is not agricultural activity to provide protein/calcium/phosphorus sources I am gradually searching through soil surveys locating areas that could grow trophy bucks with minimal nutrient management.
Most areas of Camp Gruber/Cherokee PHA could grow trophy bucks due to the prevalence of a weathered limestone soil that occurs frequently throughout the layers of flint rock usually around all the steep banks bordering the valleys. This would mean that the area would likely be capable of producing numerous trophy bucks with minimal management which would be nice to include “point limits” to allow aging and some fertilization in the “edge” zones but isn’t likely going to happen. I’d love to see in my lifetime what could happen in an area like Gruber/Cherokee with fertilization of native browse and QDM practices. I’d bet on some boone and crockett brutes within a few years.

The low fertility and pH is the main limiting factor in this entire area of over 50,000 acres.
The area often produces nice bucks in the 2 1/2 year old class in spite of the deficient nutrients needed to close the deal on a real trophy. Plus hunting pressure is enough to limit the age although hunting pressure seems less of a factor each year.
Since it’s probably a waste of time to put feeders or mineral supplements on public land because someone else would certainly locate them and be the beneficiary and habitat improvement programs do not include fertility management on the areas, Fertilizing some of the native vegetation in your “sweet spot” would likely be unnoticed by other hunters (long as it was out of sight of main roads) but would get the attention of the deer in the area. I’ve noticed that bucks have dominance over does for prime food sources so you’d likely have several good bucks using your “invisible” deer haven by fall. I did the soil survey on several spots on Gruber/Cherokee and there is only the low fertility to keep from growing major bucks there. The most benefit would come from applying a complete fertilizer around the edges of fields and along old roads and trails that deer use for feeding areas.
Try the fertilizer in the edge feeding areas and not only will you notice the browse is more productive, you will see more deer using the browse as they prefer the fertilized vegetation. Browse like honeysuckle, sumac, poison ivy and blackberries can reach protein levels with fertilization of 15% and nobody knows but you and the deer.
The burned areas are often attractive because of the new vegetation but will still be nutrient deficient from these soils.

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