Landry Jones a future Top 15 draft pick?
Sooner quarterback Landry Jones’ pro potential continues to pick up steam.
A trio of 2012 mock drafts from reputable sites came out this week, placing Jones in the Top 15.
While draft eligible, Jones has the option of coming back for his senior season in 2013.
But ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay, who remember was the first to predict that QB Sam Bradford would be a No. 1 pick, has Jones going No. 15 overall to the Miami Dolphins.
Writes McShay: “It will be interesting to see how Chad Henne does behind an upgraded offensive line, and if he is unable to get the job done, Miami will be one of the quarterback-hungry teams entering the 2012 draft. We still need to study more film on Jones. Although he continues to improve and has prototypical size and the arm strength to make all the throws, to work his way up to this point, he needs to become more consistent in terms of footwork, accuracy and decision-making in 2011.”
CBSSports.com’s Chad Reuter has Jones going fourth overall to the Denver Broncos.
Writes Reuter: “Unless Kyle Orton or Tim Tebow becomes a breakout star and the team defense greatly improves under John Fox, John Elway may have no choice to pick a strong-armed quarterback like Jones.”
SI.com’s Andrew Perloff (a.ka. “McLovin” on the Dan Patrick Show) has Jones going third overall to the Cleveland Browns, behind Stanford QB Andrew Luck and Oklahoma State wideout Justin Blackmon.
Writes Perloff: “The 6-foot-4 Jones has NFL size and arm strength and has proved a lot in college already. He threw 38 touchdowns and 12 interceptions last season and should put up Sam Bradford-like numbers this season.”
Coincidentally, McShay and Perloff also have OU’s Travis Lewis going No. 24 in the first round — even though 4-3 outside linebackers seem to rarely get picked that high anymore.
McShay predicts Lewis to the Eagles. Perloff, the Rams.
Writes McShay: “Lewis is a quicker-than-fast weakside linebacker and one of the most productive in the nation the past two years. I’ll be interested to see after studying film how much of that is due to the scheme and how much is due to his tools, but he does appear to have the closing burst to contribute in the NFL.”
Adds Perloff: “Teams want to wait to draft 4-3 linebackers, but Lewis will be productive enough this season to overcome that handicap. The Rams could also look at North Carolina LB Zach Brown.”
Interestingly, none of the mocks have OU receiver Ryan Broyles in the first round. Even though he figures to break the NCAA career receptions record this season, Broyles could fall to Day 2 of the draft because of his 5-foot-11, 187-pound frame.
-JT
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If Jones can eliminate the one bonehead play per game he seems to always be good for, then he could be the first QB taken, but it will be hard to top Luck as the #1 QB in the 2012 class. Now, if Landry stays another year and eliminates the one big mistake each game he could wind up being the first QB taken in 2013.
Dan, please send us links to all of the mock draft articles that have Weeden higher on the board than Jones.
Thanks!
I normally wouldn’t think that jones is a top 15 pick. But with ponder and locker both going in the top 15 this year. There’s a chance I guess
And to terry in edmond…QB,WR,RB U, really???? Thats funny because in the past 20 years there has been one significant QB(bradford) one RB(peterson) and NO WR’s!!! lol too funny
Why all the hate, ostate pokes? “They” have Blackmon going 2nd in the draft and you are fully aware of Weeden’s age. Quit being so jealous and be happy for all of the players, regardless of school affiliation, who have worked hard to get to the point of being drafted to play pro ball.
Hardly anyone could live up to Sam Bradford’s “perfection” on the field. The only fault of Landry’s was following Sam. I like Landry’s durability and that throw while on the run to Broyles in the endzone in the Fiesta Bowl was as big time as you will ever see.
Chase, there is an article on Cbssports that calls OU “QB U” and it is written by Dennis Dodd. You don’t get the term from draft picks. It’s awards and all Americans. OU has had Q, Parker, AD, Murray and even Tashard Choice on campus at the RB position. Oh, and James Allen, who had a decent NFL career. QB, OU has had 2 heisman winners, 6 diff QB’s winning big 12 titles and 3 all Americans. At WR, OU has had numerous all Americans and Clayton, Kelly, bradley, Jones, Broyles, Iglesias, Johnson, and a host of others garner some sort of recognition or drafted. Thats quite a résumé for one universities football program.
DAND et al
Weeden is not considered a top NFL prospect by many not becasue he is not a fine QB but because:
1) He’s 110 years old in NFL years.
2) The osu/TT offense is generally considered to produce “system” QBs rather than typical NFL model QBs.
Weeden is THE better prospect, however, due to his age, he will slide, perhaps into the 2nd round. Pat Jones was on the Sports Animal today speaking on this very topic. He has experience at both the college and pro level and he said that Weeden is without a doubt, the better pro prospects. He also stated that these guys writing mock drafts don’t have a clue about how these things work…
Brandon, oh I see…I thought we were talking about players good enough to player in the NFL not just college. My bad. Oh and like dennis dodd knows anything. Cause his word is in stone and all!!! I didnt know you could use Choice as an example if he transferred from there cause he never played. And dang if that list of QB’s and WR’s makes OU the U of those postions then I hate to see what they’d call usc, miami, bama,etc…God U or something
I would agree the guys writing mock drafts don’t generally know what they are talking about. I would also usually defer to Pat Jones football knowledge. That being said, NFL teams don’t view 28 year old quarterbacks as top prospects.
I don’t understand what is so hard to understand about this. In the NFL, players are usually considered old by the time they are 34, if not sooner. NFL teams generally expect quarterbacks coming in to the league will take from 3-4 years to reach their potential, assuming they start from Day 1. NFL teams aren’t going to use a high round draft pick on someone who will be 32 by the end of this schedule.
This is why Weeden is not the better pro prospect. This is why Brandon Weeden will not be drafted before Landry Jones. This doesn’t mean Weeden hasn’t been a revelation at quarterback for the Cowboys. This doesn’t mean that Weeden isn’t a good quarterback.
It’s just the way things work. To argue otherwise is to ignore the facts.
WE WILL SEE NEXT DRAFT WHO THE TOP PRO PROSPECT IS. NOT A PREACHER WHO IS WANTING TO LEAVE FOOTBALL TO PURSUE THE MINISTRY.
What did Weeden do last year that Landry Jones didn’t ? Jones threw fewer picks, (with more passing attempts)and more touchdowns. The All-big 12 team was picked too early, which was the reason Jones was left out. Weeden is a very good Qb. Very good. He could go high in the draft, but I haven’t seen a convincing argument as to why he’s better than Jones.
re: dandy, chase, nathan & of course stuman.
apparently the inferiority/jealousy of cowBOYS fans compels them to continually post rancorous & highly unimaginative (goonies? ha,ha) comments about stories on the real football team in the state (my apologies Tulsa U).
Sooner fans, secure in their knowledge of their teams superiority on the field, don’t feel any need to respond in kind on okie state posts. could you animal husbandry majors please come w/ either some astuteness or cleverness?
I’ve never really disliked the teams from stillwater, but i sure can’t stand their “fans”.
@DanDiver – QB rating is nice, but Landry had over 400 more yards, 4 more passing TDs, AND fewer INTs. Plus, he’s 9 years younger.
@jerkoff, err, chase – do any of those teams have a better pedigree in the last ten years of player personnel than OU? I didn’t think so. Texas is closer than Alabama or USC. Sadly for you, O-State is not even in the same ballpark. You’ll get a reminder of that in November.
I never saw Landry as a top 15 draft pick. But after seeing Ponder go at 12 then anything, and I do mean anything, is possible.
@DanDDiver, Landry Jones headlines the article because Jake Trotter wrote it. He is the Oklahoman’s OU beat writer. Of course he is going to write about OU players. I’m sure Chatmon will write something about Weeden someday.
Who cares where Jones is picked. If he brings home some BCS wins against top 10 teams, wins big games on the road, doesn’t get hurt everytime he’s touched by an opposing defense, can run with the ball when needed for positive yards, he’ll be No. #1 to Sooner fans.
The saddest thing about all of this — is in your own hatred and your foolish intent on trying to discredit other schools, that most of this chat just comes across to anyone with some balance as being sophomoric and silly. Perhaps we should be happy that as much as any other time, OKLAHOMA universities are garnering a ton of attention for the success of their programs and we are seen nationally has having some pretty darn quality football in our state.
Some interesting stats on Landry….while Landry has had some good stats for numbers of passes and completions the vast majority of passes were high percentage low risk passes. Also, Landary played only 5 teams that ranked in the top 30 pass defense category…Air Force, Missouri, A&M , Texas, and Nebraska. In those 5 games Landary was held to 28 or less pts. and his Touchdown to Interceptsion ratio was a horrible 6:4. As long as Landry plays subpar pass defense teams he does good…but play a tough pass defense team… Perhaps these are the reasons Landry did not get picked as the All Big 12 Quarterback in 2010. The question now whether OU justifiied to be ranked #1 pre-season?
OU Crazy…some good points. I looked at OSU games last year and they had only 1 game with less than 28 points, KState – 24 pts. which I recall as being a game that Blackmon did not play. A key though the Sooner offense is that they did not run the ball well last year. They were at the bottom of rushing yards in the Big 12 and averaged the lowest yards per attempt….3.4 yards. Landry might have been able to do better passing if teams respected the Sooner run offense. For 2012 this needs to be adressed if the Sooners expect to be National Champions. Unfortunately the Spring game did not reveal much about the Sooner running game.
Landry played well statistically but his passes were mostly high percentage low risk. When looking at teams OU played last year having top 30 pass defenses Landy did poorly. These team included Texas, Texas A&M, MO, and Air Force where scores were held to 28 or less points and Landry had a horrible 6:4 toucdown:Interception ratio. These are no doubt some of the reasons Landry was not selected All Big 12 quarterback in 2010. The OU offense needs to be able play better against good defenses. It makes one wonder how good the OU offense really is!
Dan DDiver, your an idiot. Nobody has ever heard of brandon weeden. landry Jones squashed him in last years game. Weeden is a want to be. He will never replace Zack Reid or anybody else that has ever succeeded at OSU. He is good but not that good.
I am an OU fan, but I will call a spade a spade. Brandon Weeden is a very good QB. He’s got a very good arm and had a great year last year. Weeden isn’t unknown or is e a wanna-be, either. He won the All-big12 1st team spot (which Landry Jones deserved, truthfully), yet Brennon F says he’s unknown. Take off your crimson shades and be honest, dude. Weeden is going to play in the NFL one day.
Landry has talents Sam didn’t have and vice-versa. Tebow was a much better college QB than Sam, but Sam is a better Pro. Sam stayed healthy this season, fortunately for him, since he was considered “soft” while being prepped for the draft. So far Landry has been able to make plays with his feet when needed. Who knows what will happen between Weeden and Jones. It’s only May.
Juvenile debate….as far as who deserves accolades…it has to be proven on the field game by game and year by year. OU has consistently done that better and rightfully benefits from it – call it tradition, heritage. Let’s hope OSU can build something that is consistent and merits the talk and respect they yearn to get. In the end it just makes OU play and look better. Who wants to claim a victory over a cream puff? Championships are not built by smashing cream puffs – just ast the Longhorns.
The state is big enough for 2 solid, rich programs. But for the Pokes to get to the level of respect where the Sooners are, it is about consistency which means game by game, year by year. They have a ways to go when you match conference titles and national titles. But we can’t blame our little brother for wanting to be like the Sooners! We can however, give him something to remember! Boomer! Sooner!
Landary has a ways to go. His throws are typically short low risk. He has done well when playing poor pass defensive teams but play a good pass defense and he falls apart. Think of Texas, Missouri, Nebraska, Air Force, and A&M when OU scored 28 or less points and Landry while throwing 6 TD’s also threw 4 picks…definelely not NFL caliber. Landry needs to learn to settle down under pressure and quit dancing. Would be nice if he had a good running game to compliment the passing game. OU had the worst yards per carry average last year in the Big 12 (3.4 yds. per carry).
All you Runt-neks ragging on Weedon obviously didn’t read the full length version of this story that ran in the DOk 2 or 3 weeks ago. The last paragraph noted that Weedon is also expected by most NFL draft analysts to go in the first round and is also a potential top 15 pick. I don’t really care about that as much as seeing the Pokes get sweet revenge in December at GIA.
Chuck…When did OSU start playing football at GIA? You don’t even know where your team plays football at.
Chuck, I’ve explained more than once why Weeden won’t be a first round pick. It may not be fair, but it is just the way things are.
Hey, Josh… Chuck is double checking to see who Brandon Weeden plays for. He couldn’t find any football players at GIA today and has been confused since.
Well Landary has a ways to go. His throws are typically short low risk. He has done well when playing poor pass defensive teams but play a good pass defense and he falls apart. Think of Texas, Missouri, Nebraska, Air Force, and A&M when OU scored 28 or less points and Landry while throwing 6 TD’s also threw 4 picks…definelely not NFL caliber. Landry needs to learn to settle down under pressure and quit dancing. Would be nice if he had a good running game to compliment the passing game. OU had the worst yards per carry average last year in the Big 12 (3.4 yds. per carry).
little Red, you said it all in the above. Landry has yet to be All Big Eight and the reasons you stated make this obvious. OU has a way to go if they can realistically be #1 but of course playing Ball State’s will help.
Quarterback U.,
Running Back U.,
Receiver U.,
Defensive Tackle U.,
Linebacker U.,
BOOMER!