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		<title>By: schnell effektiv abnehmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>schnell effektiv abnehmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice respond in return of this difficulty with firm arguments and telling the whole thing regarding that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice respond in return of this difficulty with firm arguments and telling the whole thing regarding that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has your perception of Mike Gundy (or Mike Holder) changed after Gundy flirted with job opportunities at Tennessee and Arkansas? Yes, a little.

If so, what was it before, and what is it now? And why? 

He appears a little bit less enthused for OSU, but its a business and I don&#039;t fault him for talking to big name programs.  On the other hand, I see Holder as a major culprit.  Both Holder and Gundy love OSU, but Holder wants to play big time non-conference games (for both prestige and money), and Gundy wants to win championships.  Gundy knows a one-loss OSU won&#039;t get the benefit of the doubt from voters like OU in 2003 or Nebraska in 2001 or Alabama last year, and probably needs to go undefeated to play for a national title.  Scheduling potential losses in non-coference games makes an undefeated season that much harder.  OSU has to run a gauntlet every season in the Big 12 anyways, with at least one road game in Norman or Austin always standing in the path of perfection.  OU never has to go to Austin to play and can schedule harder non-conf. matchups, but I still disagree with Tramel and believe its a mistake.  You go undefeated in the Big 12 and you have a 90-95% chance of playing for a NC.

Other topics:  The Bedlam heartbreak leading to an eventual fall to the Heart of Dallas Bowl.  

Honestly, the Bedlam loss doesn&#039;t bother me much.  Sure, it was a big game, but losing earlier in the year made the Bedlam matchup less important.  IF, IF the game was for a spot in the National Title game, then that&#039;s another story... however, this was a rebuilding year for OSU.  For OU, this was their year to play for it all.  A four-year starter at QB, a #1 preseason ranking, and they play in the Cotton Bowl.  Good bowl, but not the NC game.  Next year for OSU - not so much - they should be playing for the conference title (or a share) in the Bedlam game - and I will be there.  Of note, I have been fortunate to only miss about 5 Bedlam games since 1985 (I was at the Ice Bowl).  Takeaway from Bedlam - neither team has a defense ready to play for championships.  No Sooner fan I spoke to disagreed on this point.

Todd Monken leaving to become the head coach at Southern Miss:  Happy for him.  A sign that OSU&#039;s success is more respected outside the state than inside the state, IMO.

Overall, what are your emotions? 
If Gundy, doesn&#039;t get a real defense , he won&#039;t win a NC. (not an Alabama defense, but at least a Top 20 defense) Eventually, he&#039;ll play in another BCS game, maybe even a title game, and OSU will be up by 4 points with 5 minutes left and will have to get a big stop defensively to win.  You can&#039;t rely on missed FG&#039;s to win games (ala OSU Stanford).   Could this defense do it?  Not likely, but Gundy will HAVE to get a defense that can or OSU won&#039;t win it all.  Take the best OSU defenders over the past 5 seasons playing on one team, and they&#039;d be there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has your perception of Mike Gundy (or Mike Holder) changed after Gundy flirted with job opportunities at Tennessee and Arkansas? Yes, a little.</p>
<p>If so, what was it before, and what is it now? And why? </p>
<p>He appears a little bit less enthused for OSU, but its a business and I don&#8217;t fault him for talking to big name programs.  On the other hand, I see Holder as a major culprit.  Both Holder and Gundy love OSU, but Holder wants to play big time non-conference games (for both prestige and money), and Gundy wants to win championships.  Gundy knows a one-loss OSU won&#8217;t get the benefit of the doubt from voters like OU in 2003 or Nebraska in 2001 or Alabama last year, and probably needs to go undefeated to play for a national title.  Scheduling potential losses in non-coference games makes an undefeated season that much harder.  OSU has to run a gauntlet every season in the Big 12 anyways, with at least one road game in Norman or Austin always standing in the path of perfection.  OU never has to go to Austin to play and can schedule harder non-conf. matchups, but I still disagree with Tramel and believe its a mistake.  You go undefeated in the Big 12 and you have a 90-95% chance of playing for a NC.</p>
<p>Other topics:  The Bedlam heartbreak leading to an eventual fall to the Heart of Dallas Bowl.  </p>
<p>Honestly, the Bedlam loss doesn&#8217;t bother me much.  Sure, it was a big game, but losing earlier in the year made the Bedlam matchup less important.  IF, IF the game was for a spot in the National Title game, then that&#8217;s another story&#8230; however, this was a rebuilding year for OSU.  For OU, this was their year to play for it all.  A four-year starter at QB, a #1 preseason ranking, and they play in the Cotton Bowl.  Good bowl, but not the NC game.  Next year for OSU &#8211; not so much &#8211; they should be playing for the conference title (or a share) in the Bedlam game &#8211; and I will be there.  Of note, I have been fortunate to only miss about 5 Bedlam games since 1985 (I was at the Ice Bowl).  Takeaway from Bedlam &#8211; neither team has a defense ready to play for championships.  No Sooner fan I spoke to disagreed on this point.</p>
<p>Todd Monken leaving to become the head coach at Southern Miss:  Happy for him.  A sign that OSU&#8217;s success is more respected outside the state than inside the state, IMO.</p>
<p>Overall, what are your emotions?<br />
If Gundy, doesn&#8217;t get a real defense , he won&#8217;t win a NC. (not an Alabama defense, but at least a Top 20 defense) Eventually, he&#8217;ll play in another BCS game, maybe even a title game, and OSU will be up by 4 points with 5 minutes left and will have to get a big stop defensively to win.  You can&#8217;t rely on missed FG&#8217;s to win games (ala OSU Stanford).   Could this defense do it?  Not likely, but Gundy will HAVE to get a defense that can or OSU won&#8217;t win it all.  Take the best OSU defenders over the past 5 seasons playing on one team, and they&#8217;d be there.</p>
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		<title>By: G-Block</title>
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		<dc:creator>G-Block</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve e-mailed my thoughts; just check your in-box!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve e-mailed my thoughts; just check your in-box!</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like you need some of those who &quot;e-mailed&quot; you about this topic to come on here and discuss it. 

It&#039;s a sport. OSU fans understand Mike Gundy is a good coach and other schools will come after him. He turned it down for now. Everyone has disagreements with people they work with especially two leaders working together.

Neither Gundy, Holder, or Boone have publicly made a mockery of OSU like some media/journalists have.

Todd Monken left because he is a good head coach.
OSU is still a good university, has a good football program, and has the best basketball program in Oklahoma right now.

I think OSU, Holder, Gundy, Boone, and Ford are just doing fine and dandy.

Go Pokes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you need some of those who &#8220;e-mailed&#8221; you about this topic to come on here and discuss it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sport. OSU fans understand Mike Gundy is a good coach and other schools will come after him. He turned it down for now. Everyone has disagreements with people they work with especially two leaders working together.</p>
<p>Neither Gundy, Holder, or Boone have publicly made a mockery of OSU like some media/journalists have.</p>
<p>Todd Monken left because he is a good head coach.<br />
OSU is still a good university, has a good football program, and has the best basketball program in Oklahoma right now.</p>
<p>I think OSU, Holder, Gundy, Boone, and Ford are just doing fine and dandy.</p>
<p>Go Pokes!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 06:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;Gundy-go-round&quot;, as someone has called it, for me as a fan and season ticket holder is very frustrating to watch. If it&#039;s because Gundy is trying to get leverage with Holder, it&#039;s egotistical and amateurish. Hosting another school at your home in the town you coach is extremely bad taste and bad judgement in my opinion. Showing your boss up in public usually doesn&#039;t turn out so well. If it&#039;s because he&#039;s really not sure he wants to be at OSU, then cut the cord and leave.  But don&#039;t play the drama out in public. It hurts the program&#039;s image and believe me other coaches are using it to negatively recruit.  &quot;You know that program in Stillwater has issues&quot;. Gundy was hired to show the program will have stability. Now that&#039;s out the window.  The drama really needs to stop. But I&#039;m afraid as long as Sexton is in the mix the annual Gundy-go-round might well continue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Gundy-go-round&#8221;, as someone has called it, for me as a fan and season ticket holder is very frustrating to watch. If it&#8217;s because Gundy is trying to get leverage with Holder, it&#8217;s egotistical and amateurish. Hosting another school at your home in the town you coach is extremely bad taste and bad judgement in my opinion. Showing your boss up in public usually doesn&#8217;t turn out so well. If it&#8217;s because he&#8217;s really not sure he wants to be at OSU, then cut the cord and leave.  But don&#8217;t play the drama out in public. It hurts the program&#8217;s image and believe me other coaches are using it to negatively recruit.  &#8220;You know that program in Stillwater has issues&#8221;. Gundy was hired to show the program will have stability. Now that&#8217;s out the window.  The drama really needs to stop. But I&#8217;m afraid as long as Sexton is in the mix the annual Gundy-go-round might well continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gina, respect your zeal and all those fans who appreciate a voice.

Fact is he apparently was offered a chunk of change and then turned it down. 

End of story.

Enough for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina, respect your zeal and all those fans who appreciate a voice.</p>
<p>Fact is he apparently was offered a chunk of change and then turned it down. </p>
<p>End of story.</p>
<p>Enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First let me say. I really have liked the job you have done so far.

Second let me say. It is time to put this story to rest.

How about a story on Coach Travis Ford and his effort, on and off the court, to help bring the rowdy back to the GIA for example.

&lt;em&gt;Jerry, 

It&#039;s an angle we haven&#039;t specifically touched on yet, and something that plenty of fans have been vocal about for days. Several have emailed me already and have said they&#039;re glad I asked how they feel about everything that has transpired over the past few weeks and that they get to have a voice.  

As far as stories about Travis Ford and OSU trying to fill GIA, let me direct you to these two pieces already written within the last week: 

http://blog.newsok.com/osu/2012/12/05/osu-hoops-time-for-cowboys-and-their-fans-to-respond/

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-mens-basketball-young-fans-are-coming-but-now-its-time-for-the-older-folks-to-respond/article/3736234 

Thanks for reading.

--Gina&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First let me say. I really have liked the job you have done so far.</p>
<p>Second let me say. It is time to put this story to rest.</p>
<p>How about a story on Coach Travis Ford and his effort, on and off the court, to help bring the rowdy back to the GIA for example.</p>
<p><em>Jerry, </p>
<p>It&#8217;s an angle we haven&#8217;t specifically touched on yet, and something that plenty of fans have been vocal about for days. Several have emailed me already and have said they&#8217;re glad I asked how they feel about everything that has transpired over the past few weeks and that they get to have a voice.  </p>
<p>As far as stories about Travis Ford and OSU trying to fill GIA, let me direct you to these two pieces already written within the last week: </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.newsok.com/osu/2012/12/05/osu-hoops-time-for-cowboys-and-their-fans-to-respond/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.newsok.com/osu/2012/12/05/osu-hoops-time-for-cowboys-and-their-fans-to-respond/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-mens-basketball-young-fans-are-coming-but-now-its-time-for-the-older-folks-to-respond/article/3736234" rel="nofollow">http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-mens-basketball-young-fans-are-coming-but-now-its-time-for-the-older-folks-to-respond/article/3736234</a> </p>
<p>Thanks for reading.</p>
<p>&#8211;Gina</em></p>
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		<title>By: Del Poke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Del Poke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you really think any genuine OSU fan really wants to help fill up the press with any of this stuff? 

As for the Heart Of Dallas Bowl, bowls are firstly about getting people to come and fill up hotels and eat out in bowl host cities.  That&#039;s just as much what they&#039;re about as anything.  So, there were reasons based on what school&#039;s gone where the most recently that had something to do with the bowl OSU got.  We&#039;ll make this one work.  And Purdue is not the pushover for OSU that some want to say.  If the Boilermakers played Ohio State and Notre Dame close they can play and THEY will be motivated.  Oklahoma State won&#039;t win that game just by showing up.

&lt;em&gt;Del Poke, 

Yes, because plenty of people have already shot me a note. 

--Gina &lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really think any genuine OSU fan really wants to help fill up the press with any of this stuff? </p>
<p>As for the Heart Of Dallas Bowl, bowls are firstly about getting people to come and fill up hotels and eat out in bowl host cities.  That&#8217;s just as much what they&#8217;re about as anything.  So, there were reasons based on what school&#8217;s gone where the most recently that had something to do with the bowl OSU got.  We&#8217;ll make this one work.  And Purdue is not the pushover for OSU that some want to say.  If the Boilermakers played Ohio State and Notre Dame close they can play and THEY will be motivated.  Oklahoma State won&#8217;t win that game just by showing up.</p>
<p><em>Del Poke, </p>
<p>Yes, because plenty of people have already shot me a note. </p>
<p>&#8211;Gina </em></p>
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