If Dana Holgorsen checks out early at OSU, why should anyone be surprised?

Reports out of West Virginia indicate OSU offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen is headed to Morgantown as the Mountaineers' new offensive coordinator and head coach in waiting.

As recently as Tuesday morning, with rumors of him leaving for Pittsburgh having just been put to rest and reports about West Virginia gaining steam, some folks who know a lot about Oklahoma State football were still suggesting there’s a chance Dana Holgorsen would be in Stillwater next season.

I never understood that thinking, not with so many attractive coaching openings.

Not that being Oklahoma State’s offensive coordinator isn’t an attractive job, because it is. If, as West Virginia reports indicate, Holgorsen eventually graduates from offensive coordinator/coach-in-waiting to the Mountaineers’ head man in two seasons, he’ll become the third straight Cowboy offensive coordinator to become a head coach. That’s a pretty impressive record for Mike Gundy to run on if/when he starts recruiting his next OC.

So why wait? How could Holgorsen’s stock trade any higher than it is now? What more is there for him to accomplish at OSU? What could he prove next season that he hasn’t already?

Didn’t anyone notice that he still hasn’t signed his contract with Oklahoma State? Or that he is living in a Stillwater hotel? When you include the way he became Oklahoma State’s offensive coordinator — announced days after Gundy insisted he wouldn’t be hiring one — nothing about his tenure should have given anyone the idea he was in this for the long haul.

A few years ago Oklahoma State’s marketing folks got carried away and started proclaiming the Larry Fedora-coordinated unit as “the world’s most exciting offense.” Had they waited for Holgorsen they still would have been stretching the truth-in-advertising limits — blame Oregon and Chip Kelly — but not much. The surfer dude from Iowa Wesleyan took the Cowboys to offensive heights unseen.

Could he have done it again next season? Sure, but what would be the point?

Now it looks there’s a penthouse vacancy in the Hotel Pistols Firing. That’s a good thing, not a bad thing. And given all the fun and excitement the place produced this season, the tenant, landlord and everyone else who was paying attention should have seen it coming.

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And the editor that released it is garbage!

Funny.

What more is there for him to accomplish at OSU? What could he prove next season that he hasn’t already?

Winning a Big 12 championship; Seeing how good he can make OSU’s offense with all the returning talent.

Could he have done it again next season? Sure, but what would be the point?

See above.

I’m sure that Holgorsen would like to win a Big 12 championship. But if his ambition is to be a head coach, does doing that as an offensive coordinator really add that much to his resume? Not sure. There’s such a thing as striking while the iron is hot. If you are an assistant coach and someone is guaranteeing you a position a future head coach for a program that was a missed field goal away from playing for a BCS championship, I think you have to take it.

I’m not sure it’s a good thing there is a “penthouse vacancy.” It may get easier for Gundy to recruit elite OCs, but doesn’t it hurt the growth of the offense if they continue to be one-and-done? OSU was #1 in total offense this year, despite not having many receivers that knew the offense well. If Holgorsen leaves, how do they build on what they’ve learned?

Leach and Gundy would be a fun combination. Do you think Leach would want to run the football, though?

WVU is not going to be playing for a national championship. That is a joke Mike Sherman. They play in the bcs conference in America.

WORST BCS CONFERENCE*

The Charleston Daily Mail reports that your man will earn 750K as offensive coordinator in 2011 and 2mil as head coach in 2012

John, the fact that they play in the worst BCS conference is exactly why it would be so much easier to at least play for a MNC at WVU. The joke is why the Big lEast is a BCS conference to begin with.

I’m an OSU fan, but the opportunity to be the HC at WVU is too good to turn down.

It’s not like this was a job like Indiana.

Mike–good points. He never signed his contract and he was living in a hotel….it didn’t escape El Presidente. But I slightly disagree on two points.

What more could he prove? He could prove for the first time ever that either a Mike Leach or Dana Holgorsen offense can win a championship or at least get to a BCS bowl game. He can prove that his offense is more than just a gimmick to equalize talent gaps by lesser teams.

Also–the coach in waiting deal with Stewart is goofy and could be very awkward for both Stewart and Holgorsen. Why not this option? Oliver Luck lays the law down with Bill Stewart regardless if WVU wins their bowl–and Stewart is allowed to gracefully and without Holgorsen have his farewell tour year. Enter Boone with a briefcase of one million in cash with the understanding that Holgorsen is off to West Virginia after this one last year in Stillwater with Weeden and Blackmon. Holgorsen makes more money next year. Stewart ends his career with dignity on his terms–somewhat. And Weeden and Blackmon keep their coach for one last go round.Why not?

Winning a Big 12 Championship has nothing to do with OSU’s offense. It has everything to do with OSU’s defense. OSU has a nice offense and has ever since Les Miles came to town, but if they really want to compete in Bedlam and compete for the Big 12 title, they need a defense. Defense wins championships (see 2010 Big 12 Champion Oklahoma).

Make fun of the Big East and WVU if you want. I have only this to say: Fiesta Bowl. WVU -48 Oklahoma – 28. ESPN: “…a stunningly easy romp.” Big East football is not so bad as moost folks think…

I have to disagree with Jason on OSU’s defense being the weak link this year. The reason we lost the Nebraska game was absolutely our defensive play. However, the reason we lost the Bedlam game this year had a lot more to do with our offense not converting 3rd downs than it did with our defense. Other than the two big plays late, OSU’s defense play very well in the Bedlam game, especially in the red zone.

So, to win a conference championship, both areas need improvement. Our offense was very good this year overall, and you have to think that a lot of that had to do with Holgorsen. There is a very real possibility that if he leaves, he will be missed right away. It would be great to land Mike Leach or someone that can bring a similarly high-powered offense to Stillwater, but Holgorsen proved a lot in a year about what he was capable of as OC. Hopefully, whoever succeeds him will be able to get something of that caliber. But, it would be unrealistic to expect the same numbers that we had this year, especially if we end up with someone with less experience than Dana.

think holgerson learned a lot this year about value of a spread running game. think osu learned a lot this year about value of a spread passing game. think next year would be great with continuity holgerson provides.

think holgerson to morgantown is a joke. mess to start (same anonymous source that says he is coming says Stewart adamantly against) career ender (rodriguez has put exclamation point on that job) the pitts to live in.

really suprised he didn’t talk to muschamp at fl. really suprised he didn’t wait until next year when the Michigan and Oregon jobs will open and all the dominoes really start to fall at the big schools.

you really think he is afraid of competition and is looking for a weak stick conference to suceed in?

and who says big east will be bcs after next year?

I need to correct something I posted in a comment: West Virginia was not a missed field goal from playing in the BCS title game. Its 13-9 loss to Pittsburgh on Dec. 2, 2007 knocked the Mountaineers out of the title game and into the Fiesta Bowl, where they routed the Sooners. Pat White’s injury is what killed West Virginia that day. As for whether the Big East will be in the BCS next year, bet on it. And TCU’s membership ensures it.

I have to disagree Derick. When your offense puts 41 points on the board, they did their job. When the opposing offense puts 47 points on the board, your defense didn’t do their job. Yes, they played well; yes, OU has a great offense. But when it comes down to it, if you score 40+ points in a game and you still lose, there is room for improvement on the D. OSU’s offense was number 1 in all categories in the big 12, and they didn’t win the conference. I’d say it is a sure bet that the D is the weak link.

Thanks, Mr. Sherman. I am from WV, but I have lived in many states and countries. Hate to see ignorant people bad mouth places they have never seen and people they do not know. It is a great place to live, as I’m sure OK is as well.

I hope the stories are true, that Holgorsen is coming to WVU. Bill Stewart is a nice guy, but shows no promise of ever improving any football program, just keeping status quo. If Mr. Holgorsen leaves after great success, so be it. Better than staying after little. But WVU had a really good defense this year, with few seniors, so an offensive improvement may put us back to winning BCS bowls again.

Holgersen to WVU is exciting. It proves that the new WV AD is committed to the University’s football program. I do feel bad for Bill Stewart because he is such a good person and is committed to developing teenage kids into young men. Lets face it, he is not the head coach that can get WV the national recognition it had with RR. I hope that the university can convince him to stay on as a recruiter because that is what he does best.

I am a bit confused by the head coach in waiting situation however. Perhaps Holgersen will be the head coach next year. The University has not made any official release of Holgersen coming to WV to date. In any event, I hope and pray that Holgersen, if and when he becomes HC, scraps the RR era uniforms and puts those guys on the field with a more presentable ensemble than what we have now. I mean they look generic, kind of like the Golden Bears get up. It’s embarassing. Please Holgersen, lets win alot and look good doing it.

I’ve lived a bunch of places. Morgantown is not bad, certainly nowhere near being a pit, tho pitts is 75 miles north.

For the players sake, I hope Hogelson does well. I expect he’ll do OK in 2011, if Coach Stewart stays and is in control, and if the defensive staff stays (and the players stay – who knows for how long).

But – he has no stated defensive experience, no head coach experience, is said to be a poor recruiter, and does not know the areas where WVU has traditionally found lots of players. Adding in that he will soon be in his fourth place over a five year span, I am concerned. I give him about three years before he moves, or is moved.

And WOW, did WVU, from Ollie Luck on up, do this in an unprofessional manner? Might be OK for pro sports, but certainly poor form for college sports and when dealing with student athletes. Might be the seeds of Luck turning.

hey john, trey and whomever . WVU is a great football school with a few great wins . Beating okla, georia, and georia tech in the last few years. Going 2-0 in BCS games and 1 win away from playing in national championship game. What has OKLA ST DONE IN FOOTBALL. Come on guys, lets face the facts, nothing against okla st , but WVU is one of the top football schools in the country.

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