Comments for OKC Central http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral The Oklahoman's Steve Lackmeyer covers downtown OKC brick by brick. Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:37:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 Comment on When City Building Goes Bad by Larry OKC http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/10/when-city-building-goes-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-41541 Larry OKC Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:37:25 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7202#comment-41541 Amazing & Bizarre. Amazing & Bizarre.

]]> Comment on “Administrative Approval”? by AJ http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/14/administrative-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-41538 AJ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:34:51 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7214#comment-41538 this is for the Dowell Center correct? if so this IMHO is a big overreact by city staff. this is for the Dowell Center correct?

if so this IMHO is a big overreact by city staff.

]]> Comment on When City Building Goes Bad by Ronnie http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/10/when-city-building-goes-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-41511 Ronnie Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:00:35 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7202#comment-41511 That's just pure insanity!!! Whole cities being built from scratch and for what? To keep their GDP goals in tact, and while these huge cities are being built, the poor are still making less than $1000 a month, living in shacks that soon will be destroyed to make way for more useless developments that no one can afford to live in? They might as well call them the cities of ruins, because that's what all these new developments will be in 10 years. It's absolutely disgusting. That’s just pure insanity!!! Whole cities being built from scratch and for what? To keep their GDP goals in tact, and while these huge cities are being built, the poor are still making less than $1000 a month, living in shacks that soon will be destroyed to make way for more useless developments that no one can afford to live in? They might as well call them the cities of ruins, because that’s what all these new developments will be in 10 years. It’s absolutely disgusting.

]]> Comment on “Misinformation” by Wylie H. http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/12/misinformation/comment-page-1/#comment-41510 Wylie H. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:21:21 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7210#comment-41510 @Larry OKC -- That's a good point. Why in the world would Devon be ok with this? @Larry OKC — That’s a good point. Why in the world would Devon be ok with this?

]]> Comment on “Misinformation” by MikeN http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/12/misinformation/comment-page-1/#comment-41509 MikeN Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:09:30 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7210#comment-41509 Steve your facts and information have always been laser sharp truth. The doltish politicians and the nitwit beaucratic pogues at the City cannot get there disnonest act together, which should surprise no one. The got caught talking out of both sides ... Steve your facts and information have always been laser sharp truth. The doltish politicians and the nitwit beaucratic pogues at the City cannot get there disnonest act together, which should surprise no one. The got caught talking out of both sides …

]]> Comment on “Misinformation” by Larry OKC http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/12/misinformation/comment-page-1/#comment-41507 Larry OKC Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:25:04 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7210#comment-41507 RE: Devon not being pleased...didn't Devon give their OK on the Project 180 cut backs that resulted in this??? RE: Devon not being pleased…didn’t Devon give their OK on the Project 180 cut backs that resulted in this???

]]> Comment on And Now for Something Completely Different … by david ball http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/10/and-now-for-something-completely-different/comment-page-1/#comment-41506 david ball Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:35:28 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7188#comment-41506 matt, you were the one who brought up the stage center in a thread about the criterion where someone else brought up the baum building. i will agree that the stage center is weak when compared to the criterion or the baum building. i remember well when the new mummers theater was opened to the public, and the excitement that urban renewal had brought something new to downtown. on the other hand, outside of its "bold" (read: corbusian and impractical) design, it not only wastes space, it is a disaster for utilities and is prone to flooding. there is vitually no craftsmanship displayed in any facet of the structure. it inspires varying senses of wonderment by all, but not unanimous admiration by any means. if it is in fact a design worthy of emulation (examples of which elude me), it is certainly capable of being replicated at minimal expense, due to its very design. it never ceases to amaze me how some architects are impressed simply by something being unique rather than how the structure fits into the usability of its owner, much less by how it is received by the public at large. the baum building and the criterion were victims of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. stage center has seen a continuous flow of various theater groups being unable to continue to operate in a facility described as a masterpiece only by architects patting each other on the back. i have not advocated its destruction, but i am certainly not in favor of tax dollars saving it. i do not love it, nor do i hate it. i find its design to be a novelty, but i think it pales in comparison to other worthy buildings that have been destroyed. as noted above, i think if it is truly useful (even as an example), it could be cheaply and easily reproduced in another location where it would not be subject to flooding. i seriously doubt that there would be any takers on such a proposition, and i have a pretty good idea as to why that would not happen. i'm sorry you didn't find my observations interesting, but i suspect i'm not the only one who holds these views, and i suspect that many are far less charitable than i have been. matt, you were the one who brought up the stage center in a thread about the criterion where someone else brought up the baum building. i will agree that the stage center is weak when compared to the criterion or the baum building. i remember well when the new mummers theater was opened to the public, and the excitement that urban renewal had brought something new to downtown. on the other hand, outside of its “bold” (read: corbusian and impractical) design, it not only wastes space, it is a disaster for utilities and is prone to flooding. there is vitually no craftsmanship displayed in any facet of the structure. it inspires varying senses of wonderment by all, but not unanimous admiration by any means. if it is in fact a design worthy of emulation (examples of which elude me), it is certainly capable of being replicated at minimal expense, due to its very design.

it never ceases to amaze me how some architects are impressed simply by something being unique rather than how the structure fits into the usability of its owner, much less by how it is received by the public at large. the baum building and the criterion were victims of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. stage center has seen a continuous flow of various theater groups being unable to continue to operate in a facility described as a masterpiece only by architects patting each other on the back.

i have not advocated its destruction, but i am certainly not in favor of tax dollars saving it. i do not love it, nor do i hate it. i find its design to be a novelty, but i think it pales in comparison to other worthy buildings that have been destroyed. as noted above, i think if it is truly useful (even as an example), it could be cheaply and easily reproduced in another location where it would not be subject to flooding. i seriously doubt that there would be any takers on such a proposition, and i have a pretty good idea as to why that would not happen.

i’m sorry you didn’t find my observations interesting, but i suspect i’m not the only one who holds these views, and i suspect that many are far less charitable than i have been.

]]> Comment on “Misinformation” by AJ http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/12/misinformation/comment-page-1/#comment-41503 AJ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:45:03 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7210#comment-41503 steve thanks for being on top of this story .. as was/is the case with walker Hudson needs to become 2 way ASAP steve thanks for being on top of this story ..

as was/is the case with walker Hudson needs to become 2 way ASAP

]]> Comment on “Misinformation” by Wylie H. http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/12/misinformation/comment-page-1/#comment-41485 Wylie H. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:11:27 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7210#comment-41485 I can't imagine that Devon Energy is going to be pleased with having to endure this jacked-up traffic pattern indefinitely. I can’t imagine that Devon Energy is going to be pleased with having to endure this jacked-up traffic pattern indefinitely.

]]> Comment on “Misinformation” by Mike http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/02/12/misinformation/comment-page-1/#comment-41484 Mike Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:29:24 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/?p=7210#comment-41484 The City staff and Councilwoman Salyer needs to seriously reconsider their position on Hudson and complete it immediately with Walker. The City staff and Councilwoman Salyer needs to seriously reconsider their position on Hudson and complete it immediately with Walker.

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