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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Not An Engineer, Nor Do I Play One On TV</title>
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	<description>The Oklahoman&#039;s Steve Lackmeyer covers downtown OKC brick by brick.</description>
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		<title>By: Dennis Wells</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/07/25/im-not-an-engineer-nor-do-i-play-one-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-43432</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...it&#039;s clearly not in concert with what&#039;s been happening, but why is it laughable that ODOT intends to ignore their client?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;it&#8217;s clearly not in concert with what&#8217;s been happening, but why is it laughable that ODOT intends to ignore their client?</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/07/25/im-not-an-engineer-nor-do-i-play-one-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-43427</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the idea that ODOT will just design whatever the city wants them to is laughable ...and is not in concert with what has been happening]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the idea that ODOT will just design whatever the city wants them to is laughable &#8230;and is not in concert with what has been happening</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/07/25/im-not-an-engineer-nor-do-i-play-one-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-43420</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Engineers always want to go with their first idea.  They find it offensive if they are questioned, just like any professional would.  They always say it will cost more or take longer when it doesn&#039;t always. The fact is, they need to suck it up and go back to the drawing board and come up with a better solution.  

Nick, what&#039;s the difference?  Outside firm, single planner?

Steve, those streets or areas might not be sleepy anymore if a better intersection is in place.  Why go halfway when you can have the whole enchilada?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Engineers always want to go with their first idea.  They find it offensive if they are questioned, just like any professional would.  They always say it will cost more or take longer when it doesn&#8217;t always. The fact is, they need to suck it up and go back to the drawing board and come up with a better solution.  </p>
<p>Nick, what&#8217;s the difference?  Outside firm, single planner?</p>
<p>Steve, those streets or areas might not be sleepy anymore if a better intersection is in place.  Why go halfway when you can have the whole enchilada?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/07/25/im-not-an-engineer-nor-do-i-play-one-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-43419</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Millions in redevleopment will be spent on the area. millions will be taken in on taxes. TIF the area. We have bonds to talk about in the next few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millions in redevleopment will be spent on the area. millions will be taken in on taxes. TIF the area. We have bonds to talk about in the next few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Wells</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/07/25/im-not-an-engineer-nor-do-i-play-one-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-43418</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ODOT is a bunch of engineers... if someone tells them what to design, they&#039;ll do it.  They defaulted to the elevated design because they&#039;re a bunch of engineers, and apparently no one told them about the design program.  The City must simply tell them what to do!

The big question is: Why wasn&#039;t the City (and knowledgeable citizens) working with them YEARS ago on this?!  It seems inexcusable that they surprised us with this myopic design...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ODOT is a bunch of engineers&#8230; if someone tells them what to design, they&#8217;ll do it.  They defaulted to the elevated design because they&#8217;re a bunch of engineers, and apparently no one told them about the design program.  The City must simply tell them what to do!</p>
<p>The big question is: Why wasn&#8217;t the City (and knowledgeable citizens) working with them YEARS ago on this?!  It seems inexcusable that they surprised us with this myopic design&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Roberts</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/07/25/im-not-an-engineer-nor-do-i-play-one-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-43416</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a question I have - What if, instead of an outside engineering firm, a SINGLE planner was allowed to give input on the process?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question I have &#8211; What if, instead of an outside engineering firm, a SINGLE planner was allowed to give input on the process?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/07/25/im-not-an-engineer-nor-do-i-play-one-on-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-43415</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 04:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems to me that you shouldn&#039;t have Classen and California each dead-end just before the Boulevard but rather have them run into each other just north of the Boulevard.  Traffic can still flow and access those areas as well as go up to Sheridan and around to reach the at-grade Western/Boulevard intersection in whatever form that may be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that you shouldn&#8217;t have Classen and California each dead-end just before the Boulevard but rather have them run into each other just north of the Boulevard.  Traffic can still flow and access those areas as well as go up to Sheridan and around to reach the at-grade Western/Boulevard intersection in whatever form that may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 03:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, a traffic circle will costs millions? A raised road will costs tens of millions, and cost millions to maintain!  Aren&#039;t we getting rid of the crosstown because it is raised and costs millions to maintain?  

Is this just too obvious or is it just me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, a traffic circle will costs millions? A raised road will costs tens of millions, and cost millions to maintain!  Aren&#8217;t we getting rid of the crosstown because it is raised and costs millions to maintain?  </p>
<p>Is this just too obvious or is it just me?</p>
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