Care to Weigh In? Time is Running Out
In the past week since the Downtown Design Review Committee, Planning Department and Public Works clashed on the proposed makeover of the Civic Center park, I’ve heard only negative comments about the designs by Rand Elliott and Tulsa-based PDG Inc., which call for the removal of all trees (some of the biggest trees to be found downtown), sculptures, monuments and other landscaping. Read the full story on that debate here.
Rand Elliott doesn’t think small – I think it’s safe to say everyone would agree he always attempts to hit a home-run – he aspires to create great, eye-catching architecture and design. And I think his biggest fans and even his greatest critics would agree that the city is better off with his imprint. But what if one of those high-flying balls ends up being a foul? Will anyone tell the slugger when his latest hit didn’t go so well?
That’s the question ahead ahead for those who see this hit as a foul ball rather than a home run. I’m hearing that any differences between city planners and engineers is being ironed out behind the scenes and that the rare display of disagreement will disappear with a reapplication of the designs that skip over, for now, questions about the proposed archway, spinning towers and City Hall fountain.
Of course, that still leaves a lot of questions unresolved. I’ve been asked by more than a dozen different readers what they need to do to voice their opposition to these designs. They say these designs were not fully vetted, and some also are questioning whether the committee that reviewed this work consisted of too many people hand-selected by the design team.
This project HAS NOT been approved by the mayor and council. It must get five or more votes to move forward. So to those asking how they can voice their disapproval – or approval – now is the time to contact the mayor and council.
Contacts:
Ward 1 Councilman Gary Marrs: ward1@okc.gov
Ward 2 Councilman Ed Shadid: ward2@okc.gov
Ward 3 Councilman Larry McAtee: ward3@okc.gov
Ward 4 Councilman Pete White: ward4@okc.gov
Ward 5 Councilman David Greenwell: ward5@okc.gov
Ward 6 Councilwoman Meg Salyer: ward6@okc.gov
Ward 7 Councilman Skip Kelly: ward7@okc.gov
Ward 8 Councilman Pat Ryan: ward8@okc.gov
Mayor Mick Cornett: mayor@okc.gov
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Comments
I don’t have a problem with removing trees and statues… But what is the concept behind the “spinning towers?” What do they do? They’ll probably be cool as hell, but it’d be nice to know their meaning before criticizing them.
Overall Rand has contributed to some great design but I believe it’s evident that he’s already hit some fouls. He designs for the eye and not the practicality.
DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE MAYOR IN THESE COMMENTS OR THEY WILL BE SHUT DOWN.
Also, do not, I repeat not, use the term “INTERNATIONAL HOTSPOT.”
Carry on.
So are these the final renderings that are set to be approved? If so, I’m fine with them. The strange multicolored wall is a bit odd though. Is it supposed to symbolize something?
James, you can engage in an intelligent conversation about the mayor, downtown development, etc. all you want. But personal attacks aren’t tolerated on this site. You can take that sort of discussion to NewsOK if that’s what is important to you. I have no earthly idea what you’re talking about concerning “international hotspot,” and really, don’t care. Back to the topic please.
I don’t really mind this design, but I too am wondering about the symbolic nature of it. I think the design is modern and fresh it both compliments and clashes (in a good way) with the art deco of the area.
p.s. this is not the same “James” from above
Considering how positive the response to the Myriad Gardens redesign was, shouldn’t that team of designers be the default choice for future park projects, including this one?
You can see everyone involved here:
http://www.ojb.com/news/2009/10/16/myriad-botanical-gardens-design-team-selected/
Specifically, the fountain by Fluidity Design and the landscaping by Murase Associates turned out phenomenal! Why stay local, bring in the west coast experts!
Nice landscaping, but is it a park?
Maybe you could make it a flower park with azaleas like Honor Heights Park in Muskogee with lots of crepe myrtle trees for summer flowers.
This is a park build for “passive observation.” What exactly does that mean and why would anyone want to spend time there? Given the budget shortfall with Project 180, why even proceed with this in the first place?
“Spinning Towers?” Are they mechanized or synchronized? Are they wind powered? Will they wobble? What is their reason? Spinning anything is a maintenance headache… Will the overall design still work with 18%, missing-tooth “towers” not spinning? It’d be nice to know the architect’s concept statement…
I’m sure the money-shot will be amazing, but what will this look like after 10 years of Oklahoma sand blasting? I’d like to love this design, but can’t without these questions being answered.
Are they going to take out the old parking meters?
Sorry I haven’t commented more. I’m busy working on
a blog idea, my brand, and the thing I’m going to sell.
I would like to see the old trees integrated into the “cutting” edge” design in the renderings, as much as possible. Steve I really like all three elements you mentioned in your intro archway, towers, fountain.
How about if your city council person doesn’t care what you have to say?