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	<title>Comments on: What Will the Future Bicentennial Park   (or Civic Center Park) Look Like?</title>
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	<description>The Oklahoman&#039;s Steve Lackmeyer covers downtown OKC brick by brick.</description>
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		<title>By: jbrown84</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbrown84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could do without the reflecting pool, as long as they keep the circular fountain in front of the Civic Center and the one in front of City Hall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could do without the reflecting pool, as long as they keep the circular fountain in front of the Civic Center and the one in front of City Hall.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry OKC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry OKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 03:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a previous blog or Oklahoman story, I think Steve mentioned they were being relocated ... Steve, please correct if in error]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a previous blog or Oklahoman story, I think Steve mentioned they were being relocated &#8230; Steve, please correct if in error</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 19:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is going to happen to all the wonderful statues that are in Bicentennial Park? They are all important to Oklahoma&#039;s history. I would be sad for them to be discarded. Does anyone know the answer to this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is going to happen to all the wonderful statues that are in Bicentennial Park? They are all important to Oklahoma&#8217;s history. I would be sad for them to be discarded. Does anyone know the answer to this?</p>
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		<title>By: BTDT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BTDT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with what Doug Loudenback asked:

&quot;... does not appear that the previously approved Compass Rose 30-foot diameter sculpture funded by a $350,000 grant from the Inasmuch Foundation would have a place in this design. It was approved by city council on March 30, 2010. What would become of it?&quot;

Any chance of the powers that be passing on an answer?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what Doug Loudenback asked:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; does not appear that the previously approved Compass Rose 30-foot diameter sculpture funded by a $350,000 grant from the Inasmuch Foundation would have a place in this design. It was approved by city council on March 30, 2010. What would become of it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Any chance of the powers that be passing on an answer?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 03:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that the overall concept, and spirit of place is generally agreed upon to be very good.  With that being said, I think there are a couple of design flaws which should be addressed to improve the overall plan.  Chief amongst these is the orientation of the benches.  

The consultants have been tasked with creating a Civic Center.  The very definition of which would imply an inward focus.  As the design stands, the benches force park users to look outward, towards parked cars and empty lots.  I would argue there is no need for a reflecting pool if you are prevented from casting your gaze upon it.  

Further, assessing the success of this design based upon a few SketchUP renderings is insufficient.  Where is the materiality? What is the nature of the plantings?  We need more of the parts in order to better judge the whole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the overall concept, and spirit of place is generally agreed upon to be very good.  With that being said, I think there are a couple of design flaws which should be addressed to improve the overall plan.  Chief amongst these is the orientation of the benches.  </p>
<p>The consultants have been tasked with creating a Civic Center.  The very definition of which would imply an inward focus.  As the design stands, the benches force park users to look outward, towards parked cars and empty lots.  I would argue there is no need for a reflecting pool if you are prevented from casting your gaze upon it.  </p>
<p>Further, assessing the success of this design based upon a few SketchUP renderings is insufficient.  Where is the materiality? What is the nature of the plantings?  We need more of the parts in order to better judge the whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The long reflecting pool was clearly favored by architect Rand Elliott, but some members of the committee tasked with reviewing the Project 180 improvement voiced concerns about whether these water features would duplicate fountains being added at the Myriad Gardens.&quot;

Ummm...and isn&#039;t quite a bit of what&#039;s in the Myriad Gardens going to be duplicated by the new Central Park?  Really, folks, how many amphitheaters do we really need downtown?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The long reflecting pool was clearly favored by architect Rand Elliott, but some members of the committee tasked with reviewing the Project 180 improvement voiced concerns about whether these water features would duplicate fountains being added at the Myriad Gardens.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ummm&#8230;and isn&#8217;t quite a bit of what&#8217;s in the Myriad Gardens going to be duplicated by the new Central Park?  Really, folks, how many amphitheaters do we really need downtown?!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the design, but the reflecting pool limits any programming from happening in the park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the design, but the reflecting pool limits any programming from happening in the park.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff M. Bezdek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff M. Bezdek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do like the Elliot design for the Civic Center site and reflecting pool.  The deco influences are dramatic.

However, I believe that the historic fountain in front of City Hall (east side) should be restored or renovated.  The original fountain provided a spectacular focal point.

Three rings of jets shot water upward

A granite edifice that still exists flowed water over steps onto two semi circular glass &quot;shelves.&quot;

The pool area incorporated hidden neon lighting in a alcove around the perimeter of the pool.  While very dangerous by today&#039;s electrical standards, it made for a impressive effect.  Such lighting could safely be done using LED&#039;s.

The Centennial Commission had me do an evaluation of the existing fountain as it was considered a potential restoration project.  I vaguely remember a time capsule somehow being incorporated commemorating the land run.

If your readers desire it, I can forward historical photographs and our report for the centennial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like the Elliot design for the Civic Center site and reflecting pool.  The deco influences are dramatic.</p>
<p>However, I believe that the historic fountain in front of City Hall (east side) should be restored or renovated.  The original fountain provided a spectacular focal point.</p>
<p>Three rings of jets shot water upward</p>
<p>A granite edifice that still exists flowed water over steps onto two semi circular glass &#8220;shelves.&#8221;</p>
<p>The pool area incorporated hidden neon lighting in a alcove around the perimeter of the pool.  While very dangerous by today&#8217;s electrical standards, it made for a impressive effect.  Such lighting could safely be done using LED&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The Centennial Commission had me do an evaluation of the existing fountain as it was considered a potential restoration project.  I vaguely remember a time capsule somehow being incorporated commemorating the land run.</p>
<p>If your readers desire it, I can forward historical photographs and our report for the centennial.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Split the difference. Kill the reflecting pool. Keep the West fountain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Split the difference. Kill the reflecting pool. Keep the West fountain.</p>
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		<title>By: keith gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t agree more. If we are going to do it...do it right or scrap the whole deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more. If we are going to do it&#8230;do it right or scrap the whole deal.</p>
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