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	<title>Comments on: Parlor Game: Making the Case for SandRidge Energy</title>
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	<description>The Oklahoman&#039;s Steve Lackmeyer covers downtown OKC brick by brick.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/parlor-game-making-the-case-for-sandridge-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13374</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry, read between the lines.  Privately they were saying the same things being said now by SR - What else is SR saying?  I think SR is very clear about what they want to do.  

I read it very carefully, they knew then what that building was and is.  You were in the business, you know.  The truth is you don&#039;t know anything except the sunny disertation that Suzette Hatfield wrote.  Obviously, if everyone viewed it like she did the building would be saved, but other than her enthusiastic views of old buildings and her great work in Automobile Alley, her credentials are lacking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, read between the lines.  Privately they were saying the same things being said now by SR &#8211; What else is SR saying?  I think SR is very clear about what they want to do.  </p>
<p>I read it very carefully, they knew then what that building was and is.  You were in the business, you know.  The truth is you don&#8217;t know anything except the sunny disertation that Suzette Hatfield wrote.  Obviously, if everyone viewed it like she did the building would be saved, but other than her enthusiastic views of old buildings and her great work in Automobile Alley, her credentials are lacking.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry OKC</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/parlor-game-making-the-case-for-sandridge-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13352</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry OKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe, 

you are correct, I worded that whole thing badly. Of course any space Devon is renting will be on the market. The point I was trying to make was that their building that they Own/Occupy won&#039;t be hitting the rental market (which is where the Occupancy rates come from). 


Matt, read the artcile carefully it stated: 

&quot;The partners also were hinting, but not saying, that they had no intention to rush into renovating or preserving the old India Temple Building (privately they were saying the same things being said now by SandRidge).&quot;

No declarative statement that they were going to tear it down, just that they weren&#039;t in a rush to renovate/preserve it (last on the list), instead of what will probably be the first on the list for demolition.

Other people thought the building was capable of being renovated. Now we will never know, because once the building is gone, it is gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, </p>
<p>you are correct, I worded that whole thing badly. Of course any space Devon is renting will be on the market. The point I was trying to make was that their building that they Own/Occupy won&#8217;t be hitting the rental market (which is where the Occupancy rates come from). </p>
<p>Matt, read the artcile carefully it stated: </p>
<p>&#8220;The partners also were hinting, but not saying, that they had no intention to rush into renovating or preserving the old India Temple Building (privately they were saying the same things being said now by SandRidge).&#8221;</p>
<p>No declarative statement that they were going to tear it down, just that they weren&#8217;t in a rush to renovate/preserve it (last on the list), instead of what will probably be the first on the list for demolition.</p>
<p>Other people thought the building was capable of being renovated. Now we will never know, because once the building is gone, it is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/parlor-game-making-the-case-for-sandridge-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13295</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yo Steven, read the article above.  Triangle Development was going to tear down the India Temple Building too.  It isn&#039;t the opinion of one person or corporation that the building is no longer viable.  If it were still around in 200 years in similar condition, people would think it is quaint.  As of now it is an eyesore and a black hole for any development.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Steven, read the article above.  Triangle Development was going to tear down the India Temple Building too.  It isn&#8217;t the opinion of one person or corporation that the building is no longer viable.  If it were still around in 200 years in similar condition, people would think it is quaint.  As of now it is an eyesore and a black hole for any development.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/parlor-game-making-the-case-for-sandridge-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13292</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only downtown space Devon currently occupies and owns is the Mid-America Tower which is roughly 320,000 sq ft (including the portions occupied by other tenants - Crowe &amp; Dunlevy, Mid-America Athletic Club, Other Place). The balance of downtown office space that Devon currently occupies, which is just North of 600,000 sq ft spread out amongst many buildings (Chase Tower, First National Center, Oklahoma Tower, Corporate Tower), is rented and will definately &quot;hit the market&quot; and affect downtown occupancy rates when Devon moves into its new tower.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only downtown space Devon currently occupies and owns is the Mid-America Tower which is roughly 320,000 sq ft (including the portions occupied by other tenants &#8211; Crowe &amp; Dunlevy, Mid-America Athletic Club, Other Place). The balance of downtown office space that Devon currently occupies, which is just North of 600,000 sq ft spread out amongst many buildings (Chase Tower, First National Center, Oklahoma Tower, Corporate Tower), is rented and will definately &#8220;hit the market&#8221; and affect downtown occupancy rates when Devon moves into its new tower.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/parlor-game-making-the-case-for-sandridge-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13289</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SandRidge Energy is a corporation and must do what they think is best for the stock holders. If they were a private company it would be easy for the owner of the company to save the Indian Temple building. Why did no one spend money to save the temple before SandRidge obtained it??? The cost to renovate the Indian Temple is unknown. Why didn&#039;t the Chamber of Commerce buy it and restore the building for their new headquarters?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SandRidge Energy is a corporation and must do what they think is best for the stock holders. If they were a private company it would be easy for the owner of the company to save the Indian Temple building. Why did no one spend money to save the temple before SandRidge obtained it??? The cost to renovate the Indian Temple is unknown. Why didn&#8217;t the Chamber of Commerce buy it and restore the building for their new headquarters?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry OKC</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/parlor-game-making-the-case-for-sandridge-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13245</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry OKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Slim, 

Obviously, the remaining parties that are interested in the Devon space may be interested in the SandRidge space instead.

By the way, no matter how much sf it is (800,000 or 1M) it isn&#039;t going to &quot;hit the market&quot; as it is currently an owner occupied set of properties and it is Devon&#039;s desire that they remain so. That means it will not have any effect on current or future occupancy rates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slim, </p>
<p>Obviously, the remaining parties that are interested in the Devon space may be interested in the SandRidge space instead.</p>
<p>By the way, no matter how much sf it is (800,000 or 1M) it isn&#8217;t going to &#8220;hit the market&#8221; as it is currently an owner occupied set of properties and it is Devon&#8217;s desire that they remain so. That means it will not have any effect on current or future occupancy rates.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Roberts</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/parlor-game-making-the-case-for-sandridge-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13235</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But I don&#039;t want one of the city&#039;s most average employers to leave the city. I never said that. You&#039;re making a wild assumption in that regard.

As for the question, it is very much a LOADED QUESTION. That is exactly the phrase I was looking for that just couldn&#039;t think of off the top of my head..something about a 2nd grade reading level I suppose. The reason it is a loaded question is because even if I were behind the scenes wheeling deals for downtown, I still wouldn&#039;t name my interested parties until the envelope is sealed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I don&#8217;t want one of the city&#8217;s most average employers to leave the city. I never said that. You&#8217;re making a wild assumption in that regard.</p>
<p>As for the question, it is very much a LOADED QUESTION. That is exactly the phrase I was looking for that just couldn&#8217;t think of off the top of my head..something about a 2nd grade reading level I suppose. The reason it is a loaded question is because even if I were behind the scenes wheeling deals for downtown, I still wouldn&#8217;t name my interested parties until the envelope is sealed.</p>
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		<title>By: Slim</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/parlor-game-making-the-case-for-sandridge-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13227</link>
		<dc:creator>Slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I asked Tracy was to name a company that she could realistically see filling sandridge&#039;s tower. It wasn&#039;t a loaded question, yet she wouldn&#039;t.

So now your turn. Who would you see as a realistic potential tenant for their tower?

Please don&#039;t cop out the way she did. I mean if you want one of the cities strongest employers to leave the city, I would hope you have a plan to fill their shoes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I asked Tracy was to name a company that she could realistically see filling sandridge&#8217;s tower. It wasn&#8217;t a loaded question, yet she wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So now your turn. Who would you see as a realistic potential tenant for their tower?</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t cop out the way she did. I mean if you want one of the cities strongest employers to leave the city, I would hope you have a plan to fill their shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t being flipant (sic) I was suggesting rational ramifications for the discussion. Btw, your numbers are off. Nichols said 800,000 sf, not 1 mil. Big difference, and there are 4-5 interested parties.

Also what you said was insisting that Tracy name one interested party to move downtown. That&#039;s not just comabative and defeatist, what you said was also wrong and over the top.

Gotta love it when people pull a &quot;Uh I didn&#039;t quite say THAT.&quot; In so many words, you did. It&#039;s in the record now, and apparently you stand by your doubtfulness that potential new downtown owners do exist. You stand by inferring that we are desperate, basically.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t being flipant (sic) I was suggesting rational ramifications for the discussion. Btw, your numbers are off. Nichols said 800,000 sf, not 1 mil. Big difference, and there are 4-5 interested parties.</p>
<p>Also what you said was insisting that Tracy name one interested party to move downtown. That&#8217;s not just comabative and defeatist, what you said was also wrong and over the top.</p>
<p>Gotta love it when people pull a &#8220;Uh I didn&#8217;t quite say THAT.&#8221; In so many words, you did. It&#8217;s in the record now, and apparently you stand by your doubtfulness that potential new downtown owners do exist. You stand by inferring that we are desperate, basically.</p>
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		<title>By: Slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven,
Why so quick to be negative? You don&#039;t win people over that way.

I don&#039;t happen to remember this &quot;interest&quot; in the India temple 4 years ago. Might you go into more detail or are you gonna continue to be vague and passive aggressive?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,<br />
Why so quick to be negative? You don&#8217;t win people over that way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t happen to remember this &#8220;interest&#8221; in the India temple 4 years ago. Might you go into more detail or are you gonna continue to be vague and passive aggressive?</p>
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