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	<description>The Oklahoman&#039;s Steve Lackmeyer covers downtown OKC brick by brick.</description>
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		<title>By: CGHill</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/3-1-to-affirm-sandridge-commons-development/comment-page-2/#comment-13621</link>
		<dc:creator>CGHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like much of the rest of the world, I&#039;ve had to tighten my belt of late; it may be some time before I hit the road for more than a day or two. (Putting a new roof on the house cut my road-trip fund considerably.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like much of the rest of the world, I&#8217;ve had to tighten my belt of late; it may be some time before I hit the road for more than a day or two. (Putting a new roof on the house cut my road-trip fund considerably.)</p>
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		<title>By: slackmeyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/3-1-to-affirm-sandridge-commons-development/comment-page-2/#comment-13614</link>
		<dc:creator>slackmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Astute observation Mr. Hill. This of course means you&#039;ve been following this entire thread. And that means that you are automatically entitled to take two days off from being on the computer - and you should immediately do one of your famous drives around town (you&#039;re overdue) and then quickly provide us with one of your wonderful reports.
BTW: when is your next world tour?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astute observation Mr. Hill. This of course means you&#8217;ve been following this entire thread. And that means that you are automatically entitled to take two days off from being on the computer &#8211; and you should immediately do one of your famous drives around town (you&#8217;re overdue) and then quickly provide us with one of your wonderful reports.<br />
BTW: when is your next world tour?</p>
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		<title>By: CGHill</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/3-1-to-affirm-sandridge-commons-development/comment-page-2/#comment-13612</link>
		<dc:creator>CGHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice to see that &quot;curt&quot; and &quot;Roger,&quot; at least, see eye to eye.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see that &#8220;curt&#8221; and &#8220;Roger,&#8221; at least, see eye to eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/3-1-to-affirm-sandridge-commons-development/comment-page-2/#comment-13583</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t mess with J.R. Ewing!

 If the Ewings want plazas they get plazas! You should all be happy J.R. doesn&#039;t want to tear down more buildings, yet. Like the man said, just swallow their bitter pill. 

&quot;Grow of Die!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t mess with J.R. Ewing!</p>
<p> If the Ewings want plazas they get plazas! You should all be happy J.R. doesn&#8217;t want to tear down more buildings, yet. Like the man said, just swallow their bitter pill. </p>
<p>&#8220;Grow of Die!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just don&#039;t understand anyone that would support this project, besides the PR people from Sandridge that are on this blog.

This company has been losing billions of dollars for the last 3 years and they want to spend millions of dollars to tear down historic buildings that can be reused for a poorly designed plaza.  

I just don&#039;t understand.  Tom Ward is on a power trip. 

I also find it disgustingt that he would threaten a non-profit organizations future in the state for wanting to preserve the history of our state and the urban structure of our Capitol city.  

I just hate how the city has folded under this pressure from a company that is not as big as you think they are.  Chapparal is bigger! American Fidelity is bigger!  Loves is bigger!  Need I go on!  Those are profitable comapanies that have been in the city for so for many years.  

If we don&#039;t put our foot down somewhere we will never be a &quot;REAL CITY&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t understand anyone that would support this project, besides the PR people from Sandridge that are on this blog.</p>
<p>This company has been losing billions of dollars for the last 3 years and they want to spend millions of dollars to tear down historic buildings that can be reused for a poorly designed plaza.  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand.  Tom Ward is on a power trip. </p>
<p>I also find it disgustingt that he would threaten a non-profit organizations future in the state for wanting to preserve the history of our state and the urban structure of our Capitol city.  </p>
<p>I just hate how the city has folded under this pressure from a company that is not as big as you think they are.  Chapparal is bigger! American Fidelity is bigger!  Loves is bigger!  Need I go on!  Those are profitable comapanies that have been in the city for so for many years.  </p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t put our foot down somewhere we will never be a &#8220;REAL CITY&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: curt</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/3-1-to-affirm-sandridge-commons-development/comment-page-2/#comment-13581</link>
		<dc:creator>curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just don&#039;t understand anyone that would support this project, besides the PR people from Sandridge that are on this blog.

This company has been losing billions of dollars for the last 3 years and they want to spend millions of dollars to tear down historic buildings that can be reused for a poorly designed plaza.  

I just don&#039;t understand.  Tom Ward is on a power trip. 

I also find it disgustingt that he would threaten a non-profit organizations future in the state for wanting to preserve the history of our state and the urban structure of our Capitol city.  

I just hate how the city has folded under this pressure from a company that is not as big as you think they are.  Chapparal is bigger! American Fidelity is bigger!  Loves is bigger!  Need I go on!  Those are profitable comapanies that have been in the city for so for many years.  

If we don&#039;t put our foot down somewhere we will never be a &quot;REAL CITY&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t understand anyone that would support this project, besides the PR people from Sandridge that are on this blog.</p>
<p>This company has been losing billions of dollars for the last 3 years and they want to spend millions of dollars to tear down historic buildings that can be reused for a poorly designed plaza.  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand.  Tom Ward is on a power trip. </p>
<p>I also find it disgustingt that he would threaten a non-profit organizations future in the state for wanting to preserve the history of our state and the urban structure of our Capitol city.  </p>
<p>I just hate how the city has folded under this pressure from a company that is not as big as you think they are.  Chapparal is bigger! American Fidelity is bigger!  Loves is bigger!  Need I go on!  Those are profitable comapanies that have been in the city for so for many years.  </p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t put our foot down somewhere we will never be a &#8220;REAL CITY&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ethan, you are dead on. As much as I would like to say otherwise, this is one of the indications that OKC is not a major league city yet. OKC has been diversifying its economy for the past two decades, but in terms of power, there is only one industry. 

While being a single-industry-dominated town is not to blame per se for this happening, the lack of diversity of thought (or the lack of its expression) among major civic leaders is never healthy for a city. No one is willing to take a stand if a club member does something wrong. The relationships are just too intertwined.

Part of it is small town sensitivity -- people want to be thanked and congratulated just because they are doing something proactive in the city. The city&#039;s design codes are disliked by some because it makes it tougher to improve a property. But if they are fulfilled, the result is a much better-looking neighborhood. Likewise, for OKC to be major league, it needs to set a much higher standard for its itself in the way business is conducted. 

Otherwise, the message will always be Toe the line, or be marginalized.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethan, you are dead on. As much as I would like to say otherwise, this is one of the indications that OKC is not a major league city yet. OKC has been diversifying its economy for the past two decades, but in terms of power, there is only one industry. </p>
<p>While being a single-industry-dominated town is not to blame per se for this happening, the lack of diversity of thought (or the lack of its expression) among major civic leaders is never healthy for a city. No one is willing to take a stand if a club member does something wrong. The relationships are just too intertwined.</p>
<p>Part of it is small town sensitivity &#8212; people want to be thanked and congratulated just because they are doing something proactive in the city. The city&#8217;s design codes are disliked by some because it makes it tougher to improve a property. But if they are fulfilled, the result is a much better-looking neighborhood. Likewise, for OKC to be major league, it needs to set a much higher standard for its itself in the way business is conducted. </p>
<p>Otherwise, the message will always be Toe the line, or be marginalized.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry OKC</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/3-1-to-affirm-sandridge-commons-development/comment-page-1/#comment-13507</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry OKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent post Jill, agree completely]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Jill, agree completely</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/3-1-to-affirm-sandridge-commons-development/comment-page-1/#comment-13490</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plazas are rarely, if ever, utilized if you&#039;ve seen the few that still exist in bigger cities.  They&#039;re a mistake of a bygone era in most places.  They are usually a slight improvement on a parking lot, and little else.  Now, a square is different.  A square is usually surrounded by shops, restaurants, apartments and businesses.  It frequently has a bus stop and a taxi stand, is lined with benches and it is a place to sit and relax during a busy day of shopping/walking in a city.  If there was any hope of the the plaza being a destination, or a place of rest, it might be different.  But, there&#039;s nothing around the plaza to draw people there.  People who work at Sandridge will be doing just that: working.  I doubt Tom Ward wants them spending their day lounging around the plaza.  There are no shops or restaurants in the area.  No one lives there.  There&#039;s probably no reason for a bus stop or taxi stand.  So, it will remain a paen to the great god Concrete, I fear.  

I&#039;m having trouble seeing how this is good for downtown, or even Sandridge.  That&#039;s what I find so mystifying.  If people had been fighting them tearing down a building on land they wanted to use to build a tower I could understand it.  But, to act as aggressively as they did in order to build a square of concrete that will hold no employees, serve no function, completely baffles me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plazas are rarely, if ever, utilized if you&#8217;ve seen the few that still exist in bigger cities.  They&#8217;re a mistake of a bygone era in most places.  They are usually a slight improvement on a parking lot, and little else.  Now, a square is different.  A square is usually surrounded by shops, restaurants, apartments and businesses.  It frequently has a bus stop and a taxi stand, is lined with benches and it is a place to sit and relax during a busy day of shopping/walking in a city.  If there was any hope of the the plaza being a destination, or a place of rest, it might be different.  But, there&#8217;s nothing around the plaza to draw people there.  People who work at Sandridge will be doing just that: working.  I doubt Tom Ward wants them spending their day lounging around the plaza.  There are no shops or restaurants in the area.  No one lives there.  There&#8217;s probably no reason for a bus stop or taxi stand.  So, it will remain a paen to the great god Concrete, I fear.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m having trouble seeing how this is good for downtown, or even Sandridge.  That&#8217;s what I find so mystifying.  If people had been fighting them tearing down a building on land they wanted to use to build a tower I could understand it.  But, to act as aggressively as they did in order to build a square of concrete that will hold no employees, serve no function, completely baffles me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan Semmler</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/07/26/3-1-to-affirm-sandridge-commons-development/comment-page-1/#comment-13469</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan Semmler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guess what, CHK, Devon, Sandridge, and the Daily OK/Gaylord Entertainment can do whatever they want in this town, they own it and run it. 

If Devon wanted to tear down the Skirvin and build a parking lot, Cornett and the city council would fall over themselves to make it happen. 

So that&#039;s how it goes when there are only a few players in town. This is one of the biggest problems with the diversity of OKC, not only are their just a few big companies, there is really only one industry (oil and gas). 

This means we just do what we&#039;re told and hope for the best. Sort of like the new MAPS, we give them the tax dollars and hope we get something sort of good in return.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what, CHK, Devon, Sandridge, and the Daily OK/Gaylord Entertainment can do whatever they want in this town, they own it and run it. </p>
<p>If Devon wanted to tear down the Skirvin and build a parking lot, Cornett and the city council would fall over themselves to make it happen. </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s how it goes when there are only a few players in town. This is one of the biggest problems with the diversity of OKC, not only are their just a few big companies, there is really only one industry (oil and gas). </p>
<p>This means we just do what we&#8217;re told and hope for the best. Sort of like the new MAPS, we give them the tax dollars and hope we get something sort of good in return.</p>
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