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	<description>The Oklahoman&#039;s Steve Lackmeyer covers downtown OKC brick by brick.</description>
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		<title>By: Doug Loudenback</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9472</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Loudenback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 20:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll repeat what I just commented upon in Blair&#039;s guest blog post because I think that Let&#039;s Talk Transit deserves credit where credit is due. I said,
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I’ve finished my own analysis of the final Let’s Talk Transit session … &lt;a href=&quot;http://dougdawg.blogspot.com/2010/03/blogging-rail-at-letstalktransit.html#session5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it is here&lt;/a&gt;. From comments by Mike McAnalley both during but most particularly after the evening session concluded, the omission of Walker in the 3 proforma routes was a mistake and he took the blame for it. I am now quite satisfied that Let’s Talk Transit was legit in its desire to (1) get public input and (2) use that input in forming the streetcar routes.

Whether those higher in the pecking order will do the same remains an open question, but hopefully the sincerity of the Let’s Talk Transit people will have a “trickle-up” effect. My article goes into much greater detail than I’ll present here.

But, in short, I give Let’s Talk Transit a 5-star rating … they did very well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll repeat what I just commented upon in Blair&#8217;s guest blog post because I think that Let&#8217;s Talk Transit deserves credit where credit is due. I said,<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
I’ve finished my own analysis of the final Let’s Talk Transit session … <a href="http://dougdawg.blogspot.com/2010/03/blogging-rail-at-letstalktransit.html#session5" rel="nofollow">it is here</a>. From comments by Mike McAnalley both during but most particularly after the evening session concluded, the omission of Walker in the 3 proforma routes was a mistake and he took the blame for it. I am now quite satisfied that Let’s Talk Transit was legit in its desire to (1) get public input and (2) use that input in forming the streetcar routes.</p>
<p>Whether those higher in the pecking order will do the same remains an open question, but hopefully the sincerity of the Let’s Talk Transit people will have a “trickle-up” effect. My article goes into much greater detail than I’ll present here.</p>
<p>But, in short, I give Let’s Talk Transit a 5-star rating … they did very well.</p>
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		<title>By: slackmeyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9468</link>
		<dc:creator>slackmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 19:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[McSmellies... heh heh...
I was meeting with the famous Nick Roberts. Next time feel free to introduce yourself!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McSmellies&#8230; heh heh&#8230;<br />
I was meeting with the famous Nick Roberts. Next time feel free to introduce yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9467</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 18:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about connecting the two Health Centers downtown?  Maybe it is there and I missed it.

Saw you last night at McSmellies but you were deep in convos and I had had a few pops.  Next time I will introduce myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about connecting the two Health Centers downtown?  Maybe it is there and I missed it.</p>
<p>Saw you last night at McSmellies but you were deep in convos and I had had a few pops.  Next time I will introduce myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Bryant</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9466</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 16:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[None of the routes appear to serve the Arts District well. I&#039;ve always pictured the streetcar stopping alongside City Hall, OKCMOA, and the Civic Center.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the routes appear to serve the Arts District well. I&#8217;ve always pictured the streetcar stopping alongside City Hall, OKCMOA, and the Civic Center.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Kirkpatrick</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9464</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 15:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) It is not as if any of the lines are going down to SW 9th street. One proposal does show the boulevard and I had assumed that it was there to service the park (which will not take 50 years to build) and the convention center (whichever side of the RR track it lands).

2) I think that is being a bit nit-picky, but fair enough.

3) I&#039;ll preface this by saying that I am a Sheridan proponent. The graphic used to market the streetcar as part of the MAPs 3 proposal showed it on Sheridan and every survey has shown that the public wants a Bricktown-CBD connection. I trust the consultants when they say they get it.

I attended that morning meeting and I really tried to listen to what Mike McAnelly was saying about street couplets. The question I left with was - If I rode up to 9th and Broadway for lunch, would I really want to ride all the way over on 9th or 10th to Walker to get back to the CBD or would I want it to cut back south sooner on Hudson, Robinson, or Harvey?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) It is not as if any of the lines are going down to SW 9th street. One proposal does show the boulevard and I had assumed that it was there to service the park (which will not take 50 years to build) and the convention center (whichever side of the RR track it lands).</p>
<p>2) I think that is being a bit nit-picky, but fair enough.</p>
<p>3) I&#8217;ll preface this by saying that I am a Sheridan proponent. The graphic used to market the streetcar as part of the MAPs 3 proposal showed it on Sheridan and every survey has shown that the public wants a Bricktown-CBD connection. I trust the consultants when they say they get it.</p>
<p>I attended that morning meeting and I really tried to listen to what Mike McAnelly was saying about street couplets. The question I left with was &#8211; If I rode up to 9th and Broadway for lunch, would I really want to ride all the way over on 9th or 10th to Walker to get back to the CBD or would I want it to cut back south sooner on Hudson, Robinson, or Harvey?</p>
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		<title>By: slackmeyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9463</link>
		<dc:creator>slackmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 15:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) Which of the 3 proposals presented at the final meeting, do you think are attempting to serve the Film District, Core to Shore, or the OCU law school?
- Not seeing any of the proposals going to the potential UCO law school or the full Film Row. The plans show part of the routing going along the unfunded hoped for boulevard.

2) Which of the 3 proposals do not touch at least one side of the Cox Convention Center?
- Not saying they don&#039;t touch Cox - the question brought up by folks attending the morning session was that the maps act like Cox doesn&#039;t exist.

3) Which of the 3 proposals do not run through Bricktown?
- The concerns raised  by some folks attending the morning session was that the presentation made it appear as if there were groundwork being laid for it not to go through - the talk of &quot;constraints&quot; going under the bridge. Multiple parties said the response of &quot;we all know about Bricktown&quot; left them very unsettled. Part of this appears to be distrust based on how some felt the Core to Shore process ended up - there are a lot of people who have a bitter taste from that experience and are ready to pounce on anything that now follows. The consultant, who may not be aware of such sensitivities, was much more responsive during the evening session.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Which of the 3 proposals presented at the final meeting, do you think are attempting to serve the Film District, Core to Shore, or the OCU law school?<br />
- Not seeing any of the proposals going to the potential UCO law school or the full Film Row. The plans show part of the routing going along the unfunded hoped for boulevard.</p>
<p>2) Which of the 3 proposals do not touch at least one side of the Cox Convention Center?<br />
- Not saying they don&#8217;t touch Cox &#8211; the question brought up by folks attending the morning session was that the maps act like Cox doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>3) Which of the 3 proposals do not run through Bricktown?<br />
- The concerns raised  by some folks attending the morning session was that the presentation made it appear as if there were groundwork being laid for it not to go through &#8211; the talk of &#8220;constraints&#8221; going under the bridge. Multiple parties said the response of &#8220;we all know about Bricktown&#8221; left them very unsettled. Part of this appears to be distrust based on how some felt the Core to Shore process ended up &#8211; there are a lot of people who have a bitter taste from that experience and are ready to pounce on anything that now follows. The consultant, who may not be aware of such sensitivities, was much more responsive during the evening session.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Kirkpatrick</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9461</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 13:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, 

Some good-natured, dialogue-enhancing questions for you:

1) Which of the 3 proposals presented at the final meeting, do you think are attempting to serve the Film District, Core to Shore, or the OCU law school?

2) Which of the 3 proposals do not touch at least one side of the Cox Convention Center?

3) Which of the 3 proposals do not run through Bricktown?

captcha = ment dopiest]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, </p>
<p>Some good-natured, dialogue-enhancing questions for you:</p>
<p>1) Which of the 3 proposals presented at the final meeting, do you think are attempting to serve the Film District, Core to Shore, or the OCU law school?</p>
<p>2) Which of the 3 proposals do not touch at least one side of the Cox Convention Center?</p>
<p>3) Which of the 3 proposals do not run through Bricktown?</p>
<p>captcha = ment dopiest</p>
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		<title>By: Larry OKC</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9438</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry OKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 02:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WT_?

I haven&#039;t viewed it yet, but are you seriously saying the proposed routes:

1) Don&#039;t go to Bricktown? 
(City said during MAPS 3 campaign that a Bricktown stop was a no-brainer) then there is that rendering used showing the Streetcar passing in front of Spaghetti Warehouse.

2) No Convention Center link?
While I can understand not necessarily putting tracks next to the Cox since it is theoretically being replaced by the MAPS 3 Convention Center, does that also mean it isn&#039;t linking to the new C.C. either?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WT_?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t viewed it yet, but are you seriously saying the proposed routes:</p>
<p>1) Don&#8217;t go to Bricktown?<br />
(City said during MAPS 3 campaign that a Bricktown stop was a no-brainer) then there is that rendering used showing the Streetcar passing in front of Spaghetti Warehouse.</p>
<p>2) No Convention Center link?<br />
While I can understand not necessarily putting tracks next to the Cox since it is theoretically being replaced by the MAPS 3 Convention Center, does that also mean it isn&#8217;t linking to the new C.C. either?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9435</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 21:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t show much of anything else existing either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t show much of anything else existing either.</p>
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		<title>By: Braden</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/05/27/lets-talk-transit-im-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-9434</link>
		<dc:creator>Braden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 21:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You sick em&#039; Steve!  You&#039;re like Cujo on the mail man!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sick em&#8217; Steve!  You&#8217;re like Cujo on the mail man!!</p>
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