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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Flashback: Advice from the Urban Land Institute</title>
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	<description>The Oklahoman&#039;s Steve Lackmeyer covers downtown OKC brick by brick.</description>
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		<title>By: slackmeyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/02/28/sunday-flashback-advice-from-the-urban-land-institute/comment-page-1/#comment-6870</link>
		<dc:creator>slackmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry, it does look as if NewsOK is installing an updated comment system. Sorry if it&#039;s screwing up threads over there, but discussion is much better over here anyway!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, it does look as if NewsOK is installing an updated comment system. Sorry if it&#8217;s screwing up threads over there, but discussion is much better over here anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/02/28/sunday-flashback-advice-from-the-urban-land-institute/comment-page-1/#comment-6869</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian J - &quot;Interesting how Jacksonville is now looking to Oklahoma City for ideas.&quot;

Unfortunately there is a slippery slope here, a trap that some in our city have fallen victim to.

There are a lot of people in Oklahoma City who think we invented downtown revitalization, when in reality the only truly innovative thing we have ever done is fund large-scale public works projects with a sales tax. That&#039;s not discounting some of the great successes; only saying they have previously been done in other places.

Rebuilding of downtowns was going on elsewhere for years before we started doing it here. Other cities have had just as much or even more proportionate success with it as we have had. Yet we seem determined to ignore consultants&#039; reports and are disinclined to apply lessons from other cities to our own. The question is: how much of the ULI report will we listen to, and how much will we ignore?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian J &#8211; &#8220;Interesting how Jacksonville is now looking to Oklahoma City for ideas.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately there is a slippery slope here, a trap that some in our city have fallen victim to.</p>
<p>There are a lot of people in Oklahoma City who think we invented downtown revitalization, when in reality the only truly innovative thing we have ever done is fund large-scale public works projects with a sales tax. That&#8217;s not discounting some of the great successes; only saying they have previously been done in other places.</p>
<p>Rebuilding of downtowns was going on elsewhere for years before we started doing it here. Other cities have had just as much or even more proportionate success with it as we have had. Yet we seem determined to ignore consultants&#8217; reports and are disinclined to apply lessons from other cities to our own. The question is: how much of the ULI report will we listen to, and how much will we ignore?</p>
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		<title>By: Casey Cornett</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/02/28/sunday-flashback-advice-from-the-urban-land-institute/comment-page-1/#comment-6868</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey Cornett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I was old enough to really remember details of downtown at this time,but I had just turned seven.
However, this time I am here, aware and will be present Friday morning at the ULI and really look forward to hearing what they have to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I was old enough to really remember details of downtown at this time,but I had just turned seven.<br />
However, this time I am here, aware and will be present Friday morning at the ULI and really look forward to hearing what they have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2010/02/28/sunday-flashback-advice-from-the-urban-land-institute/comment-page-1/#comment-6866</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[know this isn&#039;t the preferred method but the paper&#039;s electronic feedback methods seem to be broken (comment, e-mail etc). Thanks in advance and feel free to delete these 2 messages as you see fit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>know this isn&#8217;t the preferred method but the paper&#8217;s electronic feedback methods seem to be broken (comment, e-mail etc). Thanks in advance and feel free to delete these 2 messages as you see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve: unrelated but the e-mail function isn&#039;t working from the regular story level. Recently the Oklahoman has updated their feedback areas and in doing so they have wiped out all previously posted comments. I had reposted a comment to one of the stories and they have all been wiped out once again. Just checked a bookmarked story for added comments and they were wiped out (Core questions help shore up city plans). Now can&#039;t even leave a comment at all. If you can let someone at the paper know of the bug. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: unrelated but the e-mail function isn&#8217;t working from the regular story level. Recently the Oklahoman has updated their feedback areas and in doing so they have wiped out all previously posted comments. I had reposted a comment to one of the stories and they have all been wiped out once again. Just checked a bookmarked story for added comments and they were wiped out (Core questions help shore up city plans). Now can&#8217;t even leave a comment at all. If you can let someone at the paper know of the bug. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting how Jacksonville is now looking to Oklahoma City for ideas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how Jacksonville is now looking to Oklahoma City for ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would we have to redraw some county lines to consolidate the city and county governments? Or is that even possible?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would we have to redraw some county lines to consolidate the city and county governments? Or is that even possible?</p>
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		<title>By: Wylie H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wylie H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These &quot;traveling groups&quot; are a good idea.

No surprise that Commissioner Darrell believes that it would be a mistake to get rid of county government-- it would put her out of a job.   As an aside, I don&#039;t see why Edmond would need Oklahoma County services, either.  In fact, giving Edmond what limited powers Oklahoma County continues to exercise within its borders would make Edmond&#039;s identity stronger, not weaker as Commission Darrell suggests.

How about another idea:  scale Oklahoma County back so that all of incorporated Oklahoma City within its boundaries is excluded?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These &#8220;traveling groups&#8221; are a good idea.</p>
<p>No surprise that Commissioner Darrell believes that it would be a mistake to get rid of county government&#8211; it would put her out of a job.   As an aside, I don&#8217;t see why Edmond would need Oklahoma County services, either.  In fact, giving Edmond what limited powers Oklahoma County continues to exercise within its borders would make Edmond&#8217;s identity stronger, not weaker as Commission Darrell suggests.</p>
<p>How about another idea:  scale Oklahoma County back so that all of incorporated Oklahoma City within its boundaries is excluded?</p>
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