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	<title>Comments on: Jim Cowan on MAPS 3 &#8211; the Lost Post</title>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/09/24/jim-cowan-on-maps-3-the-lost-post/comment-page-1/#comment-4354</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick, What I meant to say &quot;Jim&#039;s COMPLETE answers...&quot; As I recall, answers to the original 8 questions...that last reconstructed post only goes through #4 is what I was trying to say. Then there are all of the subsequent back and forth that are gone as well. :-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, What I meant to say &#8220;Jim&#8217;s COMPLETE answers&#8230;&#8221; As I recall, answers to the original 8 questions&#8230;that last reconstructed post only goes through #4 is what I was trying to say. Then there are all of the subsequent back and forth that are gone as well. <img src='http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nick Roberts</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/09/24/jim-cowan-on-maps-3-the-lost-post/comment-page-1/#comment-4295</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry, here were Jim&#039;s answers, also in the rebuilding.. yet I think my questions were mainly evaded. That was probably in Jim&#039;s best interest though to evade my questions..I&#039;m not sure if he&#039;s the best guy to ask about city planning and try to put on the spot with a Bricktown v. Core to Shore issue. 

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Doug/Nick, great questions…

1. From what I have heard said publically, the site hasn’t been determined.

2. It sure seems like the City is leaning towards the site just South of the Ford Center.

3. The Cotton Gin site would be better for Bricktown, but the other site would work if there is a plan on how to connect it to Bricktown.

4. I don’t think it’s fair to say that Maps 1 was “about” just Bricktown. The Canal and Ballpark were just two of nine projiects. The renovations to the Cox Center and building of the Ford Center both had positive impacts on Bricktown, but also helped all of Downtown.

The Core to Shore project can be a huge asset for all of downtown, depending upon how it is developed. It’s the details on “how” that many merchants in Bricktown will be interested in following.

It’s really this simple, as major development happens all on all sides of Bricktown, we believe it’s in the district’s best interest to maintain or create some form of Connectivity to it. That is the best way for Bricktown to grow long term.

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I can at least appreciate that Jim Cowan is being very diplomatic about Bricktown&#039;s interest in this. Obviously Bricktown doesn&#039;t benefit at all from preventing the rest of downtown from doing well, but Bricktown still needs to be thrown a bone. There are projects Bricktown could still use and we should try and maturate the neighborhoods we already have before we get gung ho about neighborhoods that don&#039;t even exist yet.

Just my opinion at least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, here were Jim&#8217;s answers, also in the rebuilding.. yet I think my questions were mainly evaded. That was probably in Jim&#8217;s best interest though to evade my questions..I&#8217;m not sure if he&#8217;s the best guy to ask about city planning and try to put on the spot with a Bricktown v. Core to Shore issue. </p>
<p>His responses<br />
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Doug/Nick, great questions…</p>
<p>1. From what I have heard said publically, the site hasn’t been determined.</p>
<p>2. It sure seems like the City is leaning towards the site just South of the Ford Center.</p>
<p>3. The Cotton Gin site would be better for Bricktown, but the other site would work if there is a plan on how to connect it to Bricktown.</p>
<p>4. I don’t think it’s fair to say that Maps 1 was “about” just Bricktown. The Canal and Ballpark were just two of nine projiects. The renovations to the Cox Center and building of the Ford Center both had positive impacts on Bricktown, but also helped all of Downtown.</p>
<p>The Core to Shore project can be a huge asset for all of downtown, depending upon how it is developed. It’s the details on “how” that many merchants in Bricktown will be interested in following.</p>
<p>It’s really this simple, as major development happens all on all sides of Bricktown, we believe it’s in the district’s best interest to maintain or create some form of Connectivity to it. That is the best way for Bricktown to grow long term.</p>
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<p>I can at least appreciate that Jim Cowan is being very diplomatic about Bricktown&#8217;s interest in this. Obviously Bricktown doesn&#8217;t benefit at all from preventing the rest of downtown from doing well, but Bricktown still needs to be thrown a bone. There are projects Bricktown could still use and we should try and maturate the neighborhoods we already have before we get gung ho about neighborhoods that don&#8217;t even exist yet.</p>
<p>Just my opinion at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/09/24/jim-cowan-on-maps-3-the-lost-post/comment-page-1/#comment-4291</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damon, no problem, glad to help

Doug: although easy to miss because the regular formatting of the posts got stripped out, your questions (and Nick&#039;s) are still here in this rebuilding above. Jim&#039;s answers aren&#039;t there though.


The rebuilders may have done the same thing I did, I googled the title of the original blog entry and went to the &quot;cached&quot; version, but sadly it was the abbreviated ones we see here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damon, no problem, glad to help</p>
<p>Doug: although easy to miss because the regular formatting of the posts got stripped out, your questions (and Nick&#8217;s) are still here in this rebuilding above. Jim&#8217;s answers aren&#8217;t there though.</p>
<p>The rebuilders may have done the same thing I did, I googled the title of the original blog entry and went to the &#8220;cached&#8221; version, but sadly it was the abbreviated ones we see here.</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/09/24/jim-cowan-on-maps-3-the-lost-post/comment-page-1/#comment-4280</link>
		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry,

thanks a lot fot that post. Can&#039;t believe I missed that article. I was pretty sure it was the economy that had caused the slow down. I hope these projects can rebound as the market does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>thanks a lot fot that post. Can&#8217;t believe I missed that article. I was pretty sure it was the economy that had caused the slow down. I hope these projects can rebound as the market does.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Loudenback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Loudenback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll try but I don&#039;t remember Nick&#039;s questions. But the best part, of course, were Jim&#039;s answers and I wouldn&#039;t presume to try to restate what he said.

First, the video which cannot apparently be embedded here is located &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news9.com/Global/category.asp?C=116601&amp;clipId=4139735&amp;autostart=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at this address&lt;/a&gt; should anyone want to have a look at it. 

As well as I recall, my questions were something like this:

(1) Is it your understanding that a specific location for the convention center has or has not been identified ... south of the Ford Center or south of Lower Bricktown?

(2) I can&#039;t remember #2 ... it may have been a rephrasing of #1 into 2 parts.

(3) Whether or not a convention center location has been identified, which would be more beneficial to Bricktown and why?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try but I don&#8217;t remember Nick&#8217;s questions. But the best part, of course, were Jim&#8217;s answers and I wouldn&#8217;t presume to try to restate what he said.</p>
<p>First, the video which cannot apparently be embedded here is located <a href="http://www.news9.com/Global/category.asp?C=116601&amp;clipId=4139735&amp;autostart=true" rel="nofollow">at this address</a> should anyone want to have a look at it. </p>
<p>As well as I recall, my questions were something like this:</p>
<p>(1) Is it your understanding that a specific location for the convention center has or has not been identified &#8230; south of the Ford Center or south of Lower Bricktown?</p>
<p>(2) I can&#8217;t remember #2 &#8230; it may have been a rephrasing of #1 into 2 parts.</p>
<p>(3) Whether or not a convention center location has been identified, which would be more beneficial to Bricktown and why?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/09/24/jim-cowan-on-maps-3-the-lost-post/comment-page-1/#comment-4270</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since this version has a different address link than the previous version, don’t know if the person (Damon??) that asked the question will end up seeing it but here it goes...

In response to his question about the status of some of the housing in the downtown area, Steve had an excellent article that may answer his questions (Once Hot properties are now on Ice 9/23/09)

http://www.newsok.com/once-hot-oklahoma-city-developments-are-on-ice-for-now/article/3403251?custom_click=lead_story_title]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since this version has a different address link than the previous version, don’t know if the person (Damon??) that asked the question will end up seeing it but here it goes&#8230;</p>
<p>In response to his question about the status of some of the housing in the downtown area, Steve had an excellent article that may answer his questions (Once Hot properties are now on Ice 9/23/09)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsok.com/once-hot-oklahoma-city-developments-are-on-ice-for-now/article/3403251?custom_click=lead_story_title" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsok.com/once-hot-oklahoma-city-developments-are-on-ice-for-now/article/3403251?custom_click=lead_story_title</a></p>
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		<title>By: slackmeyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/09/24/jim-cowan-on-maps-3-the-lost-post/comment-page-1/#comment-4264</link>
		<dc:creator>slackmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick is good... it&#039;s WordPress that&#039;s causing the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick is good&#8230; it&#8217;s WordPress that&#8217;s causing the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Loudenback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Loudenback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IT guys, you love &#039;em and you hate &#039;em. Since I&#039;m my OWN IT guy, I love ME and so I never have this sort of crappy problem. Can you stick in Jim Cowan&#039;s video in this post, Steve, so that recreation is a little easier?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT guys, you love &#8216;em and you hate &#8216;em. Since I&#8217;m my OWN IT guy, I love ME and so I never have this sort of crappy problem. Can you stick in Jim Cowan&#8217;s video in this post, Steve, so that recreation is a little easier?</p>
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