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	<title>Comments on: Downtown OKC 2020: Dennis Wells</title>
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	<description>The Oklahoman&#039;s Steve Lackmeyer covers downtown OKC brick by brick.</description>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/07/29/downtown-okc-2020-dennis-wells/comment-page-1/#comment-3626</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More from last post:
Forgot to include possibility of the canal running through or near the Artificial Rock Mountain.
Think, Rock formations from Garden of The Gods in Colorado Springs, Colorado as model for Artificial Rock Mountain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More from last post:<br />
Forgot to include possibility of the canal running through or near the Artificial Rock Mountain.<br />
Think, Rock formations from Garden of The Gods in Colorado Springs, Colorado as model for Artificial Rock Mountain.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/07/29/downtown-okc-2020-dennis-wells/comment-page-1/#comment-3625</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An idea to bring tourists, improve quality of life and increase tax revenue.
Consider building a very large hill or mini mountain. Artificial Rock shell near or in a large park in downtown OKC.
This rock hill or mini mountain could do many things. Cave atmosphere inside structure.
Caves, water falls, cliff repelling, rock climbing, water park, roller coaster going in and out of cave openings and around out side of mountain, retail shops and restaurants with open air eating places in cave openings, etc. Possibilities unlimited. Architects and designers could go wild with creative design. Example: Indian cliff dwellings as retail shops. Unconventional building designs could be used because the outside and inside surface is just rock formations. Don”t have mountains? Build one. Private investment could fund part of the cost. Use it to improve quality of life and increase tax revenue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An idea to bring tourists, improve quality of life and increase tax revenue.<br />
Consider building a very large hill or mini mountain. Artificial Rock shell near or in a large park in downtown OKC.<br />
This rock hill or mini mountain could do many things. Cave atmosphere inside structure.<br />
Caves, water falls, cliff repelling, rock climbing, water park, roller coaster going in and out of cave openings and around out side of mountain, retail shops and restaurants with open air eating places in cave openings, etc. Possibilities unlimited. Architects and designers could go wild with creative design. Example: Indian cliff dwellings as retail shops. Unconventional building designs could be used because the outside and inside surface is just rock formations. Don”t have mountains? Build one. Private investment could fund part of the cost. Use it to improve quality of life and increase tax revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: dustbury.com &#187; A bisector built for three</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/07/29/downtown-okc-2020-dennis-wells/comment-page-1/#comment-3624</link>
		<dc:creator>dustbury.com &#187; A bisector built for three</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] understandable is their desire to replace it with, of all things, another road. Architect Dennis Wells, guesting at Steve Lackmeyer&#8217;s place, finds the whole idea superfluous:  Why are six new lanes of traffic needed where previously there were zero? An impressive new [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] understandable is their desire to replace it with, of all things, another road. Architect Dennis Wells, guesting at Steve Lackmeyer&#8217;s place, finds the whole idea superfluous:  Why are six new lanes of traffic needed where previously there were zero? An impressive new [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John R. "Radar" Doyle</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/07/29/downtown-okc-2020-dennis-wells/comment-page-1/#comment-3621</link>
		<dc:creator>John R. "Radar" Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW !  Dennis, I congratulate you for your fabulous vision with the I-40 columns.  Why not keep a block-long stretch of I-40, and create our own totem-pole park.

Let&#039;s take columns of varying heights, arrange them in a pleasing manner on this block, and then invite proposals from local artists.  These could be muralists, sculptors, even light artists.

Location?  I suggest one of two sites. First, between Gaylord and Robinson, to connect the Convention Center with Ford Center.  The second possible site would be between Hudson and Harvey, to connect the Myriad Gardens with the C2S Central Park.

The block would have greenspace, along with walking and bicycle paths.  Each pillar would have a plaque describing the art and a photo showing where the pillar was located as part of I-40.

One final suggestion, topping the pillars with OKC history; like nostalgic signs (Liberty Tower Weather Beacon, Hollies Drive-In, Kerr-McGee), or faces of world-famous OKCityans.  Or, maybe a lighted outdoor sculpture that could become our Golden Gate Bridge, Space Needle, or Gateway Arch, drawing tourists from everywhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW !  Dennis, I congratulate you for your fabulous vision with the I-40 columns.  Why not keep a block-long stretch of I-40, and create our own totem-pole park.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take columns of varying heights, arrange them in a pleasing manner on this block, and then invite proposals from local artists.  These could be muralists, sculptors, even light artists.</p>
<p>Location?  I suggest one of two sites. First, between Gaylord and Robinson, to connect the Convention Center with Ford Center.  The second possible site would be between Hudson and Harvey, to connect the Myriad Gardens with the C2S Central Park.</p>
<p>The block would have greenspace, along with walking and bicycle paths.  Each pillar would have a plaque describing the art and a photo showing where the pillar was located as part of I-40.</p>
<p>One final suggestion, topping the pillars with OKC history; like nostalgic signs (Liberty Tower Weather Beacon, Hollies Drive-In, Kerr-McGee), or faces of world-famous OKCityans.  Or, maybe a lighted outdoor sculpture that could become our Golden Gate Bridge, Space Needle, or Gateway Arch, drawing tourists from everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Blair</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/07/29/downtown-okc-2020-dennis-wells/comment-page-1/#comment-3623</link>
		<dc:creator>Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, why not narrow E.K. Gaylord from 6 lanes to 4 lanes.

The latest traffic figures for 2008 showed that less than 10,000 cars travel on that section of E.K. Gaylord each day.  Here in Boston, Massachusetts Avenue - a 4 lane street - accommodates well over 30,000 cars per day. Will there be more congestion - may.  But there will definitely be more pedestrians.

Also, another great idea, we should look at creating a pedestrian connection through the rail dam on the axis of California.  This would certainly be cheaper than a canal extension and more effective at creating a pedestrian connection.  Plus, it would create a stunning entrance to the upper Bricktown Canal.

Just to be clear, I am not in anyway campaigning against the canal extension.  I just think we should be clear about what the objectives are and how those objectives can best be achieved.  If we put the convention center south of the Ford Center, the location is bad for the park and bad for Bricktown.  The best site for the new convention center is the Cotton Mill site.  This decision on the convention center&#039;s location is much more crucial to the future of Bricktown than whether or not a canal extension is implemented.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, why not narrow E.K. Gaylord from 6 lanes to 4 lanes.</p>
<p>The latest traffic figures for 2008 showed that less than 10,000 cars travel on that section of E.K. Gaylord each day.  Here in Boston, Massachusetts Avenue &#8211; a 4 lane street &#8211; accommodates well over 30,000 cars per day. Will there be more congestion &#8211; may.  But there will definitely be more pedestrians.</p>
<p>Also, another great idea, we should look at creating a pedestrian connection through the rail dam on the axis of California.  This would certainly be cheaper than a canal extension and more effective at creating a pedestrian connection.  Plus, it would create a stunning entrance to the upper Bricktown Canal.</p>
<p>Just to be clear, I am not in anyway campaigning against the canal extension.  I just think we should be clear about what the objectives are and how those objectives can best be achieved.  If we put the convention center south of the Ford Center, the location is bad for the park and bad for Bricktown.  The best site for the new convention center is the Cotton Mill site.  This decision on the convention center&#8217;s location is much more crucial to the future of Bricktown than whether or not a canal extension is implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Blair,

I really don&#039;t have a vision for the OKC aqueduct ruins, but I&#039;m sure something very cool would be generated by a bunch of local artists competing for the commission.

Pedestrian grade crossings over a canal would add interest, not barriers to the street level pedestrians.  I agree with you that a canal might not encourage new storefronts, but I like the idea of being able to stroll from the convention/hotel district to Bricktown without crossing ANY streets…  If Gaylord Boulevard remains a 6-lane roadway, and the railroad pedestrian dam isn’t punctured, how can pedestrian access best be improved?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Blair,</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t have a vision for the OKC aqueduct ruins, but I&#8217;m sure something very cool would be generated by a bunch of local artists competing for the commission.</p>
<p>Pedestrian grade crossings over a canal would add interest, not barriers to the street level pedestrians.  I agree with you that a canal might not encourage new storefronts, but I like the idea of being able to stroll from the convention/hotel district to Bricktown without crossing ANY streets…  If Gaylord Boulevard remains a 6-lane roadway, and the railroad pedestrian dam isn’t punctured, how can pedestrian access best be improved?</p>
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		<title>By: Blair</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2009/07/29/downtown-okc-2020-dennis-wells/comment-page-1/#comment-3620</link>
		<dc:creator>Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post Dennis!

I would be interesting in hearing (and seeing) more of what you have in mind for the I-40/boulevard columns.  Sounds really cool.  There is certainly enough right of way to do something special in the way of a linear park / urban art piece, while still meeting the (real or perceived) demands of traffic.

&quot;Seamless pedestrian access&quot;...I like the way you calibrated your words there.  I think a lot of this can be solved by reducing the portion of the public realm designated car-only and by being thoughtful with the selection of the new convention site.  A canal extension may be many things, even many good things, but I don&#039;t think it is the best solution to pedestrian connectivity.  Ultimately the depressed right-of-way does not activate storefronts, rather it takes people off of the first-floor plane and actually creates a new barrier for pedestrians traveling tangentially to the canal&#039;s path.  I think a canal extension is a good idea, but the connection is more psychological and novel than it is pedestrian.

Anyhow, well done on the post.  I really enjoyed your thoughts and ideas.  I hope there is an opportunity for you to give us a better picture of what the I-40 ruins could become.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Dennis!</p>
<p>I would be interesting in hearing (and seeing) more of what you have in mind for the I-40/boulevard columns.  Sounds really cool.  There is certainly enough right of way to do something special in the way of a linear park / urban art piece, while still meeting the (real or perceived) demands of traffic.</p>
<p>&#8220;Seamless pedestrian access&#8221;&#8230;I like the way you calibrated your words there.  I think a lot of this can be solved by reducing the portion of the public realm designated car-only and by being thoughtful with the selection of the new convention site.  A canal extension may be many things, even many good things, but I don&#8217;t think it is the best solution to pedestrian connectivity.  Ultimately the depressed right-of-way does not activate storefronts, rather it takes people off of the first-floor plane and actually creates a new barrier for pedestrians traveling tangentially to the canal&#8217;s path.  I think a canal extension is a good idea, but the connection is more psychological and novel than it is pedestrian.</p>
<p>Anyhow, well done on the post.  I really enjoyed your thoughts and ideas.  I hope there is an opportunity for you to give us a better picture of what the I-40 ruins could become.</p>
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