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	<title>Comments on: Utter Nonsense and Bricktown Parking</title>
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	<description>The Oklahoman&#039;s Steve Lackmeyer covers downtown OKC brick by brick.</description>
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		<title>By: slackmeyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2008/10/29/utter-nonsense-and-bricktown-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>slackmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe Brett, but I wonder if Bricktown wouldn&#039;t face an outright boycott if parking prices were raised to $20 to $50 for a spot. OKC is not Denver. People do not have the option of using public transit to getting to a game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Brett, but I wonder if Bricktown wouldn&#8217;t face an outright boycott if parking prices were raised to $20 to $50 for a spot. OKC is not Denver. People do not have the option of using public transit to getting to a game.</p>
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		<title>By: brett brewer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2008/10/29/utter-nonsense-and-bricktown-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>brett brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is what a big league city is all about.  How much fun is a Thunder game (NBA) in OKC. WOW!  Parking is the least of our worries.......10 20 I would pay 50 like in denver]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is what a big league city is all about.  How much fun is a Thunder game (NBA) in OKC. WOW!  Parking is the least of our worries&#8230;&#8230;.10 20 I would pay 50 like in denver</p>
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		<title>By: Jess M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that all this has probably helped the situation, more free parking and a cap.  However, perception is reality when it comes to business.  If people aren&#039;t educated on where to park, if parking is hard to find and if places are poorly lit and not safe feeling...  you get a &quot;parking problem.&quot;  Even if realistically there shouldn&#039;t be a problem.  I also agree with the addition of more and more hotels and bigger events, this &quot;problem&quot; won&#039;t disappear.  I don&#039;t claim to have a magic solution either.  I do know that I&#039;ve had issues finding parking but that hasn&#039;t been recent since the new rules and free went into effect.  If my wife is with me we can usually find parking, however, I&#039;m not the greatest at finding my way around and directions confuse me sometimes.  So I would say a good start might be better signs, more advertising and a safe feeling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that all this has probably helped the situation, more free parking and a cap.  However, perception is reality when it comes to business.  If people aren&#8217;t educated on where to park, if parking is hard to find and if places are poorly lit and not safe feeling&#8230;  you get a &#8220;parking problem.&#8221;  Even if realistically there shouldn&#8217;t be a problem.  I also agree with the addition of more and more hotels and bigger events, this &#8220;problem&#8221; won&#8217;t disappear.  I don&#8217;t claim to have a magic solution either.  I do know that I&#8217;ve had issues finding parking but that hasn&#8217;t been recent since the new rules and free went into effect.  If my wife is with me we can usually find parking, however, I&#8217;m not the greatest at finding my way around and directions confuse me sometimes.  So I would say a good start might be better signs, more advertising and a safe feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2008/10/29/utter-nonsense-and-bricktown-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeffrey,

It is true that each new use creates new demand, but it also true that there are HUNDREDS of spaces west of EK Gaylord - largerly catering to the 9 to 5 crowd - that also sit empty after 5pm. The counts done as part of the Bricktown Parking study showed that even on a 2-event night - something at the Ford and something at the Cox  - there was ample capacity in the BPI lots to the north of Bricktown and the Power Alley Garage, as well as the garage under the Cox and the Santa Fe Garage.

Your argument assumes that every single person staying at those two new hotels is not going to the game or is not using any of the other land uses in Bricktown. People don&#039;t use urban districts that way - we should be seeing 2 to 3 trips per car (restaurant before, game, drink afterwards). In a perfect world, if people are parking just to go to the game and they have no intention of using a Bricktown business, then I would argue that they should save the Bricktown spots for people that are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey,</p>
<p>It is true that each new use creates new demand, but it also true that there are HUNDREDS of spaces west of EK Gaylord &#8211; largerly catering to the 9 to 5 crowd &#8211; that also sit empty after 5pm. The counts done as part of the Bricktown Parking study showed that even on a 2-event night &#8211; something at the Ford and something at the Cox  &#8211; there was ample capacity in the BPI lots to the north of Bricktown and the Power Alley Garage, as well as the garage under the Cox and the Santa Fe Garage.</p>
<p>Your argument assumes that every single person staying at those two new hotels is not going to the game or is not using any of the other land uses in Bricktown. People don&#8217;t use urban districts that way &#8211; we should be seeing 2 to 3 trips per car (restaurant before, game, drink afterwards). In a perfect world, if people are parking just to go to the game and they have no intention of using a Bricktown business, then I would argue that they should save the Bricktown spots for people that are.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2008/10/29/utter-nonsense-and-bricktown-parking/comment-page-1/#comment-1105</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, you are 100% accurate.  From my speaking to folks, the complaining about Bricktown parking is due to the fact that much of the parking is pay-parking rather than free.  For better or worse, unless you work downtown, most people in the metro are still not used to pay-parking or having to walk any distance to your destination, and if you have to pay or walk, it becomes a situation where you think there is no parking.  It seems like more of a mental block than anything.  Throughout the Hornets stay and last night&#039;s Opening Night I have never had a problem finding pay parking slots.  Occasionally there will be a time where I can not park in a particular lot because it is full, but that is rarely the case for more than one lot I try.  We need to continue to reinforce the change of thought that Bricktown/Ford Center is a &quot;walking&quot; attraction and not just another mall or single restaurant where you park at the door and walk right in.  It is a destination to be enjoyed in its totality...which includes a walk to take in the sights.  In any event, keep up the good work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you are 100% accurate.  From my speaking to folks, the complaining about Bricktown parking is due to the fact that much of the parking is pay-parking rather than free.  For better or worse, unless you work downtown, most people in the metro are still not used to pay-parking or having to walk any distance to your destination, and if you have to pay or walk, it becomes a situation where you think there is no parking.  It seems like more of a mental block than anything.  Throughout the Hornets stay and last night&#8217;s Opening Night I have never had a problem finding pay parking slots.  Occasionally there will be a time where I can not park in a particular lot because it is full, but that is rarely the case for more than one lot I try.  We need to continue to reinforce the change of thought that Bricktown/Ford Center is a &#8220;walking&#8221; attraction and not just another mall or single restaurant where you park at the door and walk right in.  It is a destination to be enjoyed in its totality&#8230;which includes a walk to take in the sights.  In any event, keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, you have a valid point, and I TOTALLY agree that the only parking problem we have is perception, BUT you&#039;re comparing ONE FREE NIGHT, to thousands of nights it has been for a fee. I planned on parking there for free and totally forgot by the time I headed to the game. I ended up paying $5 at Sante Fe parking lot. The naysayers point is that if they knew it was free all the time, it would be more of a habit to go there, versus mentally blocking paid parking out of their mind. See my point? I&#039;d rather see development on those open surface lots though and pay to park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you have a valid point, and I TOTALLY agree that the only parking problem we have is perception, BUT you&#8217;re comparing ONE FREE NIGHT, to thousands of nights it has been for a fee. I planned on parking there for free and totally forgot by the time I headed to the game. I ended up paying $5 at Sante Fe parking lot. The naysayers point is that if they knew it was free all the time, it would be more of a habit to go there, versus mentally blocking paid parking out of their mind. See my point? I&#8217;d rather see development on those open surface lots though and pay to park.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally! This should put an end to the parking controversy in Bricktown - RIght?

Well, not really.

Steve, what happens in January when the Hampton Inn opens next to the Bricktown parking garage? Where will the approximately 40-90 cars or more that will belong to hotel guests park? Looks like to me the  plan is to park them in the garage. So you&#039;re going to have to assume that the parking garage will fill up most game nights after January.  I suppose that one still would have the north parking area . . . if you can find it. But even there Steve, will the Holiday Inn express use that area to park their guests? I guess the point is, for now, there remain many inexpensive parking options available in Bricktown. But the reality is that won&#039;t last for long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally! This should put an end to the parking controversy in Bricktown &#8211; RIght?</p>
<p>Well, not really.</p>
<p>Steve, what happens in January when the Hampton Inn opens next to the Bricktown parking garage? Where will the approximately 40-90 cars or more that will belong to hotel guests park? Looks like to me the  plan is to park them in the garage. So you&#8217;re going to have to assume that the parking garage will fill up most game nights after January.  I suppose that one still would have the north parking area . . . if you can find it. But even there Steve, will the Holiday Inn express use that area to park their guests? I guess the point is, for now, there remain many inexpensive parking options available in Bricktown. But the reality is that won&#8217;t last for long.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good job, Steve.  Thanks for looking at it with a fresh set of eyes and an open mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job, Steve.  Thanks for looking at it with a fresh set of eyes and an open mind.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you steve.  Ive never.....ever....had a problem finding a place to park in bricktown, I dont know how you couldnt.....Ive been to two seasons + 1 game of the nba downtown, and go to redhawks games as much as possible.  Ive been down there on a nite when there was a hornets game, a blazers game and a concert happening at the same time and never had trouble finding parking.  But Im not afraid to walk a block or two and maybe thats the difference. Its true that for some of the hornets games the parking lot near zios charged $10 or more, but the bricktown garage and santa fe garage have NEVER been more than $5.....ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you steve.  Ive never&#8230;..ever&#8230;.had a problem finding a place to park in bricktown, I dont know how you couldnt&#8230;..Ive been to two seasons + 1 game of the nba downtown, and go to redhawks games as much as possible.  Ive been down there on a nite when there was a hornets game, a blazers game and a concert happening at the same time and never had trouble finding parking.  But Im not afraid to walk a block or two and maybe thats the difference. Its true that for some of the hornets games the parking lot near zios charged $10 or more, but the bricktown garage and santa fe garage have NEVER been more than $5&#8230;..ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pass the salt Steve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pass the salt Steve.</p>
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