Comments on: Stern on Seattle expansion team http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/ The Oklahoman's Mike Baldwin blogs the NBA Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:30:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Xavier http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-864 Xavier Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:48:35 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-864 I've been to Oklahoma and have lived in Tulsa. Oklahomans are great people and I suspect most would rather earn a NBA franchise team rather than snatch one from another city. Now that the facts are starting to come out I will be curious to see what OKC residences will start to say on the matter. One thing is certain, in a few years if OKC has a NBA team they will be approached to upgrade their basketball arena. No matter how much money they spend on it now it won't meet the needs of a team say 5 or 10 years from now. There are also cities much larger and with bigger metro area's than OKC which will target OKC for their team at some point in time. I doubt you'll get much sympathy from Seattle regardless what happens with the Sonic's. Wanting a team badly enough to snatch one from Seattle which has a rich history supporting it's PRO teams is ridiculous. When you see polls that give you the impression that Seattlites don't care if the Sonic's leave are simply not true, it's frustration at the cost of keeping the owners happy at the expense of local roads, bridges and infrastructure. Every large city has to balance it's needs which includes entertainment. Seattle more than shows it's love of the Sonic's by attendence and the passion you've been reading about. OKC will eventually need to rebuild or replace it's own arena or Tulsa, Memphis, Vancouver or some other city may try and lure your team away too. I don't hate OKC for wanting a team and I admire OKC for working to get the NBA there, but I dislike the idea of OKC prying our team through it's local ownership group when they know we love our Sonic's. How would you feel if we took the "Sooners" and it's legacy away from your great state? I’ve been to Oklahoma and have lived in Tulsa. Oklahomans are great people and I suspect most would rather earn a NBA franchise team rather than snatch one from another city. Now that the facts are starting to come out I will be curious to see what OKC residences will start to say on the matter.

One thing is certain, in a few years if OKC has a NBA team they will be approached to upgrade their basketball arena. No matter how much money they spend on it now it won’t meet the needs of a team say 5 or 10 years from now.

There are also cities much larger and with bigger metro area’s than OKC which will target OKC for their team at some point in time. I doubt you’ll get much sympathy from Seattle regardless what happens with the Sonic’s.

Wanting a team badly enough to snatch one from Seattle which has a rich history supporting it’s PRO teams is ridiculous. When you see polls that give you the impression that Seattlites don’t care if the Sonic’s leave are simply not true, it’s frustration at the cost of keeping the owners happy at the expense of local roads, bridges and infrastructure. Every large city has to balance it’s needs which includes entertainment. Seattle more than shows it’s love of the Sonic’s by attendence and the passion you’ve been reading about.

OKC will eventually need to rebuild or replace it’s own arena or Tulsa, Memphis, Vancouver or some other city may try and lure your team away too. I don’t hate OKC for wanting a team and I admire OKC for working to get the NBA there, but I dislike the idea of OKC prying our team through it’s local ownership group when they know we love our Sonic’s.

How would you feel if we took the “Sooners” and it’s legacy away from your great state?

]]> By: Lee http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-844 Lee Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:29:51 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-844 As to all the commenters I grew up in the mid-west in a small town in Illinois, I have visited OKC @ what was Tinker, I know about much of the history there. Like many places across our nation it is all different, and if you have lived a certain place you feel a connection. I understand the heart ache from both sides, but professional sports has held communities hostage for 20 some odd years and its time for them to put a better business plan on the table, more present matters need public money and owners need more pryvate money to finance. If it is profitable pryvate money would be bending over backward to finance 500 million dollar areanas. Safe-Co Field in Seattle is one of the finest stadiums in the US, it is not an arena and cost 550 million dollars. As to all the commenters I grew up in the mid-west in a small town in Illinois, I have visited OKC @ what was Tinker, I know about much of the history there. Like many places across our nation it is all different, and if you have lived a certain place you feel a connection. I understand the heart ache from both sides, but professional sports has held communities hostage for 20 some odd years and its time for them to put a better business plan on the table, more present matters need public money and owners need more pryvate money to finance. If it is profitable pryvate money would be bending over backward to finance 500 million dollar areanas. Safe-Co Field in Seattle is one of the finest stadiums in the US, it is not an arena and cost 550 million dollars.

]]> By: Lee http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-842 Lee Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:54:58 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-842 I hate to tell the author of the article, but his information is far too incorrect. I respect journalist and would heed them to have their facts correct before writing. After then owner of the Seattle Pilots and now commissioner, Bud Selig relocated to Milwaukee after one year and named his franchise the Brewers, Senator Slade Gordon (R) from Wa. filed a law suet for breech of contract. MLB could have faced a larger anti trust law suit and settled by naming an expansion team who started play when the Kingdome was completed in 1976 and named the Mariners. I hate to tell the author of the article, but his information is far too incorrect. I respect journalist and would heed them to have their facts correct before writing. After then owner of the Seattle Pilots and now commissioner, Bud Selig relocated to Milwaukee after one year and named his franchise the Brewers, Senator Slade Gordon (R) from Wa. filed a law suet for breech of contract. MLB could have faced a larger anti trust law suit and settled by naming an expansion team who started play when the Kingdome was completed in 1976 and named the Mariners.

]]> By: Maanu http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-793 Maanu Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:52:36 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-793 I'm pretty pumped to hear the news that Schultz will sue. Raises a few questions though, especially if in the end us Seattleites cave too much on a new arena. Have we been duped? Either way you slice it, if they stay, attendance definitely goes up, even among those of us who are bitter towards schultz. If it were a plan, it would be a clever one. The bonus for okc? In planning for the sonics' arrival, you've passed the legislation and will have a head start towards being immediately ready for a new franchise. I'm one happy townie thanks to this news. OKC, sorry for the pun, I know you want a team SOONER than LATER, but hey, fresh start, new franchise, no baggage, maybe later is greater. Definitely better than supporting Clay's perceived dishonesty. You guys don't want a team under those conditions. I can't respect Raiders fans because in their selfishness they embrace crazy Al Davis and his literal pirate tactics. Same scenario. In closing, it's my first time seeing this site, Seattle heads and Oklahomeboys, don't form opinions of the denizens of these respective cities based on s#!+talking blurbs on this site. That's just how folks talk on the net, about anything. all chumpyish. I got family in both cities and would like to see some comraderie here. Say it with me, like you're 7'7'' : "I LOVE THIS GAME!" I’m pretty pumped to hear the news that Schultz will sue. Raises a few questions though, especially if in the end us Seattleites cave too much on a new arena. Have we been duped? Either way you slice it, if they stay, attendance definitely goes up, even among those of us who are bitter towards schultz. If it were a plan, it would be a clever one. The bonus for okc? In planning for the sonics’ arrival, you’ve passed the legislation and will have a head start towards being immediately ready for a new franchise.
I’m one happy townie thanks to this news. OKC, sorry for the pun, I know you want a team SOONER than LATER, but hey, fresh start, new franchise, no baggage, maybe later is greater. Definitely better than supporting Clay’s perceived dishonesty. You guys don’t want a team under those conditions. I can’t respect Raiders fans because in their selfishness they embrace crazy Al Davis and his literal pirate tactics. Same scenario.
In closing, it’s my first time seeing this site, Seattle heads and Oklahomeboys, don’t form opinions of the denizens of these respective cities based on s#!+talking blurbs on this site. That’s just how folks talk on the net, about anything. all chumpyish.
I got family in both cities and would like to see some comraderie here. Say it with me, like you’re 7′7” : “I LOVE THIS GAME!”

]]> By: Nick Seattle http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-785 Nick Seattle Tue, 15 Apr 2008 05:44:22 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-785 How do you all feel about this http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sonics/2004349361_schultz15.html I don't really care this is a post and run. See you in court Bennett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do you all feel about this
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sonics/2004349361_schultz15.html

I don’t really care this is a post and run. See you in court Bennett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: joey http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-473 joey Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:24:11 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-473 someone said oklahomans dont visit seattle? thats interesting, because the city is constantly flooded with tourists. and tons of them are from oklahoma and that part of the country. including your mayor!! someone said oklahomans dont visit seattle? thats interesting, because the city is constantly flooded with tourists. and tons of them are from oklahoma and that part of the country. including your mayor!!

]]> By: mickey http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-467 mickey Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:58:25 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-467 Philip Says: March 30th, 2008 at 7:49 pm “Where do you get your stereotype of Seattlites?” Rainy, overcast, gloomy, Starbucks, Microsoft, Google……that’s the national perception. Phillip That is the perception most Seattleites try very hard to promote. Most of us do not want anyone else moving here and try very hard to discourage it. I am happy to see it is working, if just a little bit. Unfortunatley it hasn't worked as well as we want. People still keep showing up. Mickey A Proud Member of Lesser Seattle and pulling on my gumboots and raincoat to out an Bar BQ as I write. Philip Says:
March 30th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
“Where do you get your stereotype of Seattlites?”

Rainy, overcast, gloomy, Starbucks, Microsoft, Google……that’s the national perception.

Phillip

That is the perception most Seattleites try very hard to promote. Most of us do not want anyone else moving here and try very hard to discourage it. I am happy to see it is working, if just a little bit.

Unfortunatley it hasn’t worked as well as we want. People still keep showing up.

Mickey
A Proud Member of Lesser Seattle and pulling on my gumboots and raincoat to out an Bar BQ as I write.

]]> By: donutboy http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-466 donutboy Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:26:14 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-466 yes, seattle is better than oklahoma, does it make you feel better to read it? you seem to need to. you're proving my point. if seattle is so awesome and oklahoma is so terrible, why waste your time CONSTANTLY reminding everyone of what is in seattle. we know, but keep telling us (and yourself) of these things if it makes you feel better. because really, as much as you hate oklahoma, i'm indifferent towards you. so please, continue your impressive insults and know that you're the best. really. you are. seriously. yes, seattle is better than oklahoma, does it make you feel better to read it? you seem to need to. you’re proving my point. if seattle is so awesome and oklahoma is so terrible, why waste your time CONSTANTLY reminding everyone of what is in seattle. we know, but keep telling us (and yourself) of these things if it makes you feel better. because really, as much as you hate oklahoma, i’m indifferent towards you. so please, continue your impressive insults and know that you’re the best. really. you are. seriously.

]]> By: SEATTLE Sonics http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-465 SEATTLE Sonics Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:15:56 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-465 donutboy...you read good donutboy…you read good

]]> By: SEATTLE Sonics http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/comment-page-1/#comment-464 SEATTLE Sonics Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:12:22 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/nbainokc/2008/03/27/stern-on-seattle-expansion-team/#comment-464 Okay, we have a deal...you can have the Sonics and we get Google. Thanks. Okay, we have a deal…you can have the Sonics and we get Google. Thanks.

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