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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2007/09/22/lots-of-points-sign-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1627</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fear that our dear Jenni has taken the easy way out.  No response really on this.  There are so many things she could have done to set things straight on so many levels.  But to sit at a press conference and bait Gundy on whether the collumn was true, just shows she missed the point altogether.  

This was a chance to shine Jenni and you dropped the ball. 

Be a strong woman, there&#039;s still time.  Don&#039;t run for the tall grass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fear that our dear Jenni has taken the easy way out.  No response really on this.  There are so many things she could have done to set things straight on so many levels.  But to sit at a press conference and bait Gundy on whether the collumn was true, just shows she missed the point altogether.  </p>
<p>This was a chance to shine Jenni and you dropped the ball. </p>
<p>Be a strong woman, there&#8217;s still time.  Don&#8217;t run for the tall grass.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2007/09/22/lots-of-points-sign-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1516</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this out--mom&#039;s reaction: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=sports&amp;id=5677281

The basis of Jenni&#039;s story is not only shameless, but fabricated. Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this out&#8211;mom&#8217;s reaction: <a href="http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=sports&#038;id=5677281" rel="nofollow">http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=sports&#038;id=5677281</a></p>
<p>The basis of Jenni&#8217;s story is not only shameless, but fabricated. Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2007/09/22/lots-of-points-sign-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anyone better to take your job?  There has to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anyone better to take your job?  There has to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hansen (not a phd)</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2007/09/22/lots-of-points-sign-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1478</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hansen (not a phd)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i c my post was deleted.  I basically said jenni is a rotten journalist and her editor should be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i c my post was deleted.  I basically said jenni is a rotten journalist and her editor should be fired.</p>
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		<title>By: James Boles</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2007/09/22/lots-of-points-sign-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1477</link>
		<dc:creator>James Boles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenni....this story loses you all credability as a journalists.  It also means that lots of vebal committments will not be honored.  Lots of mothers want a man like Coach Gundy coaching their kids.  Lots of kids want to know that their coach will stand up for them.  Look for Gundy to have the best recruiting class in OK this year if not the nation.  I only hope you are as wrong in your where&#039;s the beef column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenni&#8230;.this story loses you all credability as a journalists.  It also means that lots of vebal committments will not be honored.  Lots of mothers want a man like Coach Gundy coaching their kids.  Lots of kids want to know that their coach will stand up for them.  Look for Gundy to have the best recruiting class in OK this year if not the nation.  I only hope you are as wrong in your where&#8217;s the beef column.</p>
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		<title>By: RT</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2007/09/22/lots-of-points-sign-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1307</link>
		<dc:creator>RT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole thing is stupid.  Mike Gundy is stupid, Jenni is stupid...Bobby Reid is a huge dissapointment, the football team at OSU is a dissapointment.  The defensive coordinator is terrible and the defense can&#039;t hold anyone down.  Forget 1 week, there are still a lot of games left for OSU to lose.  GO SOONERS!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole thing is stupid.  Mike Gundy is stupid, Jenni is stupid&#8230;Bobby Reid is a huge dissapointment, the football team at OSU is a dissapointment.  The defensive coordinator is terrible and the defense can&#8217;t hold anyone down.  Forget 1 week, there are still a lot of games left for OSU to lose.  GO SOONERS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: chris chovanec</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2007/09/22/lots-of-points-sign-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>chris chovanec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me begin by stating that I have a great respect for most women. I feel like they should be equal in every way, but I have a problem with your article about Reid. I have never seen him play, but for what I have to say, I don&#039;t need to.

Society  tells me it&#039;s &quot;okay&quot; to have a woman tell me about the rigors of football.  I am suppose to look the other way and pretend they understand the game from a players perspective. I&#039;m suppose to ignore the fact you never strapped on a helmet, and felt what it&#039;s like to compete on the field. Society tells me that I have to be politically correct, and at least tolerate the clich&#039;es that anybody can spew out if they had enough brothers around them growing up. 

Well I&#039;m sorry but not this time....

You have never earned the right to judge a football player because you don&#039;t know what it&#039;s like. You have not walked in a players shoes, and have never faced the types of pressures a player is under. I played, and I coached, and I know. Don&#039;t smear the game by pretending you understand.

I don&#039;t even care if you ARE right on your facts.

Football is a fraternity. A brotherhood. If you never played then stop writing like you know, because YOU DON&#039;T. 

Here&#039;s an example....I will never make claims about how woman that don&#039;t give birth naturally are &quot;sissies&quot;, because I don&#039;t have the right to judge such things. Furthermore if I did make such a statement, I would be discredited immediately by every woman in the world because I don&#039;t have a vagina.

What you did was irresponsible. You sold out this kid to get some readers. 

Is this what first made you want to be a journalist? To hurt people?

Nice job. You must be very proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me begin by stating that I have a great respect for most women. I feel like they should be equal in every way, but I have a problem with your article about Reid. I have never seen him play, but for what I have to say, I don&#8217;t need to.</p>
<p>Society  tells me it&#8217;s &#8220;okay&#8221; to have a woman tell me about the rigors of football.  I am suppose to look the other way and pretend they understand the game from a players perspective. I&#8217;m suppose to ignore the fact you never strapped on a helmet, and felt what it&#8217;s like to compete on the field. Society tells me that I have to be politically correct, and at least tolerate the clich&#8217;es that anybody can spew out if they had enough brothers around them growing up. </p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m sorry but not this time&#8230;.</p>
<p>You have never earned the right to judge a football player because you don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like. You have not walked in a players shoes, and have never faced the types of pressures a player is under. I played, and I coached, and I know. Don&#8217;t smear the game by pretending you understand.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even care if you ARE right on your facts.</p>
<p>Football is a fraternity. A brotherhood. If you never played then stop writing like you know, because YOU DON&#8217;T. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example&#8230;.I will never make claims about how woman that don&#8217;t give birth naturally are &#8220;sissies&#8221;, because I don&#8217;t have the right to judge such things. Furthermore if I did make such a statement, I would be discredited immediately by every woman in the world because I don&#8217;t have a vagina.</p>
<p>What you did was irresponsible. You sold out this kid to get some readers. </p>
<p>Is this what first made you want to be a journalist? To hurt people?</p>
<p>Nice job. You must be very proud.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2007/09/22/lots-of-points-sign-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Jenni Carlson&#039;s column fairly often.  Sometimes I agree with her--other times I don&#039;t.  I think that she is better at writing human-interest stories about people in sports than she is at analyzing what&#039;s going on on the field, but that would apply to most people--male or female--who write about sports.

I think the vignette about mama feeding Bobby chicken was a bit much.  It does seem to indicate that he&#039;s perhaps a mama&#039;s boy, but it might not indicate that at all, and it just seems like a low blow.

Everything else in the column is less &quot;mean&quot; than what has been said by hundreds of OSU fans who have called into the various sports-talk radio shows since the stinker at Georgia demanding that Bobby Reid be benched because he&#039;s no good in big games, gets hurt too easily, isn&#039;t mentally tough, is a quitter, etc.  If it&#039;s OK for the OSU fan-base to say these things and much worse, then why isn&#039;t it OK for a sport columnist (not reporter--columnist) to say them?

Given all that, Mike Gundy&#039;s response was 10 times, make that 100 times worse, more out of line, more over the top, than anything in Jenni Carlson&#039;s column.  He should have behaved like an adult, a professional, and talked to her privately, rather than making himself the laughingstock of the nation with his &quot;I&#039;m a man--I&#039;m 40!&quot; tirade.

I&#039;m an OU fan who likes Mike Gundy.  I have hoped that he would succeed in running a successful program without all the Les Miles thugs in it.  I thought he was succeeding.  Now I can&#039;t figure out what he&#039;s doing.  He seems clueless on Saturdays, and now seems to be clueless about other parts of his job as well.

Too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Jenni Carlson&#8217;s column fairly often.  Sometimes I agree with her&#8211;other times I don&#8217;t.  I think that she is better at writing human-interest stories about people in sports than she is at analyzing what&#8217;s going on on the field, but that would apply to most people&#8211;male or female&#8211;who write about sports.</p>
<p>I think the vignette about mama feeding Bobby chicken was a bit much.  It does seem to indicate that he&#8217;s perhaps a mama&#8217;s boy, but it might not indicate that at all, and it just seems like a low blow.</p>
<p>Everything else in the column is less &#8220;mean&#8221; than what has been said by hundreds of OSU fans who have called into the various sports-talk radio shows since the stinker at Georgia demanding that Bobby Reid be benched because he&#8217;s no good in big games, gets hurt too easily, isn&#8217;t mentally tough, is a quitter, etc.  If it&#8217;s OK for the OSU fan-base to say these things and much worse, then why isn&#8217;t it OK for a sport columnist (not reporter&#8211;columnist) to say them?</p>
<p>Given all that, Mike Gundy&#8217;s response was 10 times, make that 100 times worse, more out of line, more over the top, than anything in Jenni Carlson&#8217;s column.  He should have behaved like an adult, a professional, and talked to her privately, rather than making himself the laughingstock of the nation with his &#8220;I&#8217;m a man&#8211;I&#8217;m 40!&#8221; tirade.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an OU fan who likes Mike Gundy.  I have hoped that he would succeed in running a successful program without all the Les Miles thugs in it.  I thought he was succeeding.  Now I can&#8217;t figure out what he&#8217;s doing.  He seems clueless on Saturdays, and now seems to be clueless about other parts of his job as well.</p>
<p>Too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bergner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bergner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You, Jenni Carlson, have reached a new low with The Oklahoman.......tabloid journalism has no place in this newspaper.  You owe Bobby Reid, his family, Mike Gundy, the OSU family, Oklahomans, coaches and fans across the country an appology and need to do so immediately.  You and The Oklahoman better do something soon before you and the newspaper lose all creditability.  Shame, shame on you!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, Jenni Carlson, have reached a new low with The Oklahoman&#8230;&#8230;.tabloid journalism has no place in this newspaper.  You owe Bobby Reid, his family, Mike Gundy, the OSU family, Oklahomans, coaches and fans across the country an appology and need to do so immediately.  You and The Oklahoman better do something soon before you and the newspaper lose all creditability.  Shame, shame on you!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Lepry</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2007/09/22/lots-of-points-sign-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin Lepry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenni Carlson should be fired! She personally attacked the Ok State player and showed lots of unprofessionalism. Instead of doing the right thing - apologizing - she is stubborn defending herself like someone quite immature (lower than Gundy&#039;s immaturity).  Why do stupid spineless journalists defend her and her article?? When does the media have accountability?? Gundy had every right to criticize the ARTICLE and although the personal attack was to Jenni Carlson’s level, it was warranted. You journalists act so high and mighty and enjoy your monopoly on manipulating the public to what you journalists want people to think. Why don’t you show a little bit of maturity and admit your errors? please stop being a wussy!
By the way, I am a journalist so I DO know how low you stooped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenni Carlson should be fired! She personally attacked the Ok State player and showed lots of unprofessionalism. Instead of doing the right thing &#8211; apologizing &#8211; she is stubborn defending herself like someone quite immature (lower than Gundy&#8217;s immaturity).  Why do stupid spineless journalists defend her and her article?? When does the media have accountability?? Gundy had every right to criticize the ARTICLE and although the personal attack was to Jenni Carlson’s level, it was warranted. You journalists act so high and mighty and enjoy your monopoly on manipulating the public to what you journalists want people to think. Why don’t you show a little bit of maturity and admit your errors? please stop being a wussy!<br />
By the way, I am a journalist so I DO know how low you stooped.</p>
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