For the first time this season, Oklahoma State has a healthy Dantrell Savage running along side freshman phenom Kendall Hunter.
It really is easy to confuse the two.
These past couple weeks, we’ve heard Cowboy coaches and players comparing Hunter to Savage. The shifty moves. The elusive skills. The scat back style.
But against Texas Tech, we actually got a chance to see just how much the two Cowboy tailbacks are alike. OSU used both backs, and often, it was difficult to tell which was which. With Savage wearing No. 22 and Hunter wearing No. 24, you often had to wait and see which one emerged from the pile just to make sure who had carried the ball.
Having two guys who have shown that kind of ability is good news for the Cowboys. Savage is a weapon they’ve sorely missed, and Hunter is a youngster who’s only going to get better.
September 22nd, 2007 at 9:33 pm
OSU has finally made a statement to the big 12. We will and can beat anybody. Look out OU. We will win the big 12 South.
September 22nd, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Just the facts ma’am, just the facts.
September 22nd, 2007 at 10:40 pm
You must not know kids off at College. A meal from home is a real treat. A free meal from a parent is something most young men will not turn down. To open and close your tirade with such little understanding of young men in general and then to fill the article with cruel and pointless speculation shows that you have taken the path of Yellow Journalism as loosely defined below.
“Yellow journalism is a pejorative reference to journalism that features scandal-mongering, sensationalism, or other unethical or unprofessional practices by news media organizations or journalists. It has been loosely defined as “not quite libel”.
Your parents must be proud.
September 22nd, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Gundy was absolutely right to rip you the way he did. The cardinal rule of sports writing: you don’t openly criticize or ridicule an amateur athlete without a legitimate reason.
What was your reason, Jenni? I’d love to hear it. Was it to get a pretty front page story? Or to up readership? To cause a stir? What was it? I’d love to hear an explanation.
September 22nd, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Jenni,
Mike Gundy obviously didn’t read the article, because the things he said were NOT what you wrote. He was the one that broke his 21-year-olds child’s heart by benching him. You didn’t do that.
And his 21-year-old child didn’t look heartbroken when he was laughing it up at the end of the Troy fiasco.
His mother should be ashamed that she didn’t raise a 21-year-old child that could feed himself .
This 21-year-old child is not a 17-year-old playing on a high school team. He is playing for a major university and needs to act like a man.
He is not a child, MIKE GUNDY. If he can buy beer and have a child it’s time for him to act like a man.
September 22nd, 2007 at 10:57 pm
What is Gundys problem? I saw the video tonight and it appears to me as a coach myself…….a motivational speech to for the media the advertised back to the players, Stillwater and the State…. Maybe Mike is afraid of JC……After today win against Texas Tech……He needs to talk to Bob Stoops and NOT Boonie Pickens
Mychae
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:07 pm
After listening to Mike Gundy I had to read the article for myself , why would someone wast their time writing such trash , as a long time OSU fan , you took away from a great win with your childish and petty article , how sad for you . I am wondering like others do you need publicity that badly . Mike Gundy had every right to defend his athlete . I hope you listened and you will think the next time you decide to write about a college kid like that . I am embarrassed for you actually.
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Robert,
Have you ever been to college? I bet you anything that while you were a 20-something year old in college and your parents came to town or when you went home, the one thing you looked forward to was a not having to buy your own dinner… If you say no, then I call BS…
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:21 pm
Jenni, you are the most incredibly negative, venom spewing journalist I have ever read. The article about Tiger Woods and how he has “no personality”, conveniently written during the PGA championships was a perfect example.
I read the Bobby Reid article this morning and was disgusted. You have absolutely no idea about Reid’s attitude. “Rumors” about him transferring during the competition with Donovan Woods were nothing more than message board speculation, not anything based in fact. What does the fact that Reid’s mother fed him chicken after a game have to do with attitude? I’m sure a lot of players wish their mother had brought them a little snack. Bottom line is the article was inaccurate, unnecessary and cruel. I am very close to cancelling my subscription to the DOK because of you.
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:26 pm
GO Coach Gundy!
Jenni, maybe you should look into “movie reviewing”…
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:39 pm
It is a shame Gundy has taken the attention away from a team win and placed it on his childish tirade.
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Your article was pure trash. Even college journalists, who at least have a more legitimate right to criticize individual players (as they’re peers) rarely do so.
Gundy is right, criticize the coaches - leave college kids alone. They’re just trying to play a game that they love. Or better yet, maybe go down to the little league park this weekend and write an article about the kid who strikes out to end the game.
For the record, you’re not a particularly good writer, much less journalist. Not only did you pick a terribly trashy subject, your writing is trite, cliched, and uninspired.
This article may be receiving a lot of publicity, but if the Oklahoman wants to maintain any level of respect in the community you’ll be jobless by Monday. Maybe they can write an article about how terrible a person you are once you’re jobless. Nothing like kicking someone when they’re down…right?
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:45 pm
Jenni,
Unfortunately, I feel that you have had this coming for a while. It must have been a slow news day yesterday. Well, not anymore. You really know how to make a name for yourself. I know Mike got a little too angry, but I think that can be overlooked because he obviously feels that you are attacking one of his own and that you should get your facts straight before you start putting out trash to get a front page story. Congrats, you got another.
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:49 pm
Mike Gundy should be lashing out at his pitiful defense and not a journalist who is just doing her job. And besides, didn’t we hear for months before the Troy fiasco that Bobby Reid was the starting QB and that no player loses their position because of an injury. Bull loney. Gundy was feeding the media “crap”. Mike Gundy further embarassed the OSU foortball program Saturday night and he should be reprimanded by the University for his tirade. It showed nothing but a total lack of class and professionalism.
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Way to go Coach Gundy!!!!
There are some good people left in today’s society.
Jenny your not one of them…………
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:08 am
Can Gundy revoke Jenni’s media pass?
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:08 am
Yes, Gundy can revoke her media pass.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 am
Nice.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 am
Shawn, comments against Jenni are not allowed here. They are censoring us. “LEAVE JENNI ALONE!!!”
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 am
Wow….my first comment was deleted…..It’s not my fault she posted the ignorant trash she did…..If she’s going to post that, then we should get the chance to respond to it….Your deletings of the comments that have been made supporting Gundy just further proves my opinion that the Joklahoman is a biased, ridiculous paper with no journalistic beliefs….All of you guys should be ashamed….PS….I’m copying THIS comment so when you delete it, I can just come back and repost it
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:10 am
Hah! That was pretty fast. You must be getting good at this. Deleting all the pro-Mike Gundy comments in all. Did you happen to look at KOCO’s poll? About 90% in support of Gundy. That means you guys have your work cut out for you. I trust that you’ll try your hardest to keep deleting these comments throughout the night. It’s sad, but you have to have a job right?
I sincerely hope that Jenni Carlson does not have a job come Monday. The Oklahoman would slightly improve as a whole.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:11 am
Jenni,
are you sitting at your computer deleting these?? You SHOULD be working on an article trying to save your job….Someone finally has the guys to confront a “reporter” that thrives on confrontation….How is she going to respond to it?!?!? The world awaits the video response to THIS one….
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:11 am
She needs to cannnnnnnned
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:12 am
Jenni,
Well, it seems as if you are finally getting the attention that you have wanted. I am glad that Coach Gundy addressed this when he did, thereby avoiding a flame war. Apparently, he was applauded after his speech.
You did manage to take away a MUCH deserved post game press conference. Perhaps you should stick to covering only the sports that you have played.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:13 am
Jenni - wow! I’ll be speaking with my ad executive on Monday to pull my advertising from the paper. Sure, maybe I’ll miss out on a lead or two, but with the drop in readers, the shifting demographics of those readers and with the increase in tabloid style, it is an easy decision. There are better ways to reach my potential clients and they don’t read this kind of writing.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:13 am
whats a woman nkow about football anyway ?
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 am
Im ashamed
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 am
Dear Jenni,
I am sorry you had a rough evening but why delete my comments? I used no profanity and simply stated my opinion. You are a grown person that gets paid to write articles and I thought this forum was to discuss opinions on your ‘work.’
Have a great night, but please resign.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 am
How many wins does that give Gundy?
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:15 am
Jim,
Gundy 1
Jenni -1
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:15 am
“Perhaps you should stick to covering only the sports that you have played.”
Has she ever played any sports??
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:16 am
Well, at least one of my comments made it.
Seriously Jenni, how did it feel when everyone around you clapped for Mike Gundy as he publically humiliating you? That’s got to be rough.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:16 am
Man, its too bad NewsOK hasn’t figured out how to incorporate ads on this page. Apparently their only motive is eyeballs and could careless about getting the facts straight.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:18 am
You guys must be kicking yourselves for the lost ad revenue right here. So many eyes making so many comments that you’ve had to delete.
Of course, your sales guys are REALLY going to be kicking themselves on Monday when buyers call up to cancel ads left and right now that your tabloid-style journalism has been exposed.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:19 am
Rick, She writes better than you spell.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:21 am
Robert,
I would say they are about equal.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:21 am
My guess is that Gundy will be gone long before Jenni is. Bobby Knight can get away with this type of whining behavior because he has won National Championships. And when did Gundy become a newspaper reader? On Monday he said he didn;t read the papers. He needs to get HIS story straight.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:22 am
If you watched the video of the press conference, you would know why/how he came to read this article.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:22 am
Jim,
Did you even listen to the video?!?! You’re doing your investigating like Jenni does…He stated clearly he doesn’t read it, but that article was brought to him by a mother…..You need to get YOUR story straight
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:23 am
You go, girl. Gundy’s a jerk, a lousy coach and a chicken. Make a speech and storm out of the press conference without taking a question. Who does he think he is, George Bush? Well, okay, no, he’s not that stupid, but I digress.
The part that I find humorous is apparently Bobby’s momma had to show the article to Mike. Bobby couldn’t do it himself, or wouldn’t? Give me a break.
Reid’s a primo don and deserves to be criticized. Keep it up, Jenni, you might alienate the OSU fans…all four of them.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:24 am
So the story was handed to him, BUT he did NOT read it then? Duh.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:24 am
Bobby’s momma showed him the article?? There you go again with that Jenni-style fact finding. Who said Bobby’s momma showed it to him? He just said “a mother.” Could have been Gundy’s own wife for all you know, they do have 3 children after all. Or could have been some other mother in the athletic department.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:25 am
Is Mark Jenni posting under another name? It certainly sounds like it.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:27 am
lol, Mike Gundy devastated Jenni Carlson in front of her ‘peers’. They even clapped for him. I bet that doesn’t feel too good.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:27 am
I thought the best part of the press conference was when the room started to applaude. I bet your editor hates you right now and I cant blame him. Your sad lazy excuse for professionalism has embarassed an entire newspaper. I doubt this comment stays longer then 30 minutes.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:27 am
Thank God Coach Gundy had the guts to call this paper and its pitiful, pro-OU,fiction- writing “journalists” (I use that term loosely) just what they are–garbage. Using “rumors and rumblings” as the basis for your writing? Are you kidding me??? I hope the repurcussions from this crap you wrote are swift and severe!
GO COWBOYS!!!
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:27 am
If OSU would have lost today….none of this nonsense would be said….PERIOD!!!
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:27 am
Wow….Jim, you must be a Gooner….You have no common sense….Just b/c an article was brought to him and he read it means he reads the paper on a normal basis?? You’re a moron….if a concerned mother brings an article to him, any coach should read it to see why they were concerned enough to bring it to him….Doesn’t mean he reads the paper just b/c he read this article
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:29 am
Mychael, I hope you’re not a teacher in addition to a coach. If you are, then I worry about America’s future.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:32 am
Gundy needs to act his age, he said he doesn’t read trash but he sure did response to it. Jenni didn’t ask for a 40 year old man to go crazy at a press conference. I’m embarrassed for Gundy and OSU. Let see how much Boone Pickens is going to donate this year on this worthless program.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:32 am
I would imagine a D-1 heda coach would have more to do on game day than meet with a chicken feeding mother. Maybe that explains their defense today.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:33 am
And just what is a gooner?
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:35 am
I’m proud that Mike Gundy is head coach at Oklahoma State University. Carlson needed put in her place. Boone Pickens is proud that Mike Gundy is head coach at Oklahoma State University. I don’t think those dollars will stop rolling in any time soon.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:36 am
What the heck is a “heda” coach? Must have been written by a gooner!
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:37 am
Maybe OSU’s billboards can be changed from the WORLD’S GREATEST OFFENSE to EAT MORE CHIKIN.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:40 am
Third-rate journalism and ignorance of the facts, such as what you displayed in your recent column, are exactly the type of traits that relegated your career to writing for a no-name newspaper, in a no-name place in the middle of Oklahoma.
Kudos to Gundy for sticking it to you. The Big Ten, SEC, Big East, Pac Ten, and even the Ivy schools are laughing at you, your paper, and your dim-witted attempt at journalism right now. Yes, the column and video have already made it around the country. Way to validate the sterotypes that this country has about Oklahomans.
Jackass.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:41 am
Jim
That’s why he left.
Tara,
Keep wishing it was owrthless.
Mark,
I didn’t know straight guys said “you go girl”.. oh, I see.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:42 am
Gundy needs to act his age? How about Carlson give it a try once in a while. Boone really likes Gundy so the donations wont stop
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:42 am
Jim
What billboards? Reading the Daily Joke too much
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:43 am
Hey Shane,,,,
Like Mike Gundy,…..You make a bs asumpiton without facts,…..And if I am a teacher? Your not. So don’t blame me with OSU choices……Nuff said…
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:44 am
Jenni,
I am pulling my advertising with your paper, and will tell my colleagues to do the same. Tell your editor that.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:45 am
So Chase is pulling his personals’ ad? Ha!
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:46 am
Mychael
Who wrote the article based on rumors??? You aren’t making any sense. Put the meth pipe down and get your kids out of the street and in bed.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:50 am
Just the immature response i would expect from a low class sooner who i am gonna guess doesn’t even know the street that GAYlord stadium is on (that means you never attended that college).
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:52 am
He’s now looking it up as we speak.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:53 am
Coach Gundy showed this evening what his priorities are. It’s his players and I’m proud he stood up for Bobby. There was no reason for the personal attack on Reid in your article. You should be ashamed and Gundy had every right to defend his player.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:55 am
Did I say I was a Sooner … or attended OU … or what college I did graduate from? You are grasping for somehting that just isn’t there.
So pull your personal ad … like it was working for you anyway?
Now it is your turn to deny it was a personal ad.
DENIAL!
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:55 am
Jim, get a marker and draw the OU logo on your forehead. Go to the closest mirror and look at your creation. You no doubt will be confused as to why the logo is reversed. Congratulations Jim, your looking at a Gooner.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:55 am
Mychael, you make little in the way of coherent thoughts. To be honest, I didn’t really understand what you were saying. But that’s not important because I’m sure it was worthless. I just hope you don’t teach future generations, because if this is any indication, I fear for them.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:58 am
Tommy boy,
If I were to go to a mirror that is not the closest, would the logo be okay there? You really hurt me with that. Very lame.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:59 am
We’re getting beside the point now! The fact is, Mike Gundy stuck up for his players and I’m glad he did. The loyalty to his players will go a long way.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:01 am
Enough with this trite arguement. Jenni, go write for the Norman Press.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:03 am
Jim, any mirror would be fine. I suggested the closest so you would not get distracted and forget the task at hand.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:03 am
“If you believe the rumors and the rumblings, Reid has been pushing coaches that way for quite some time.”
“If you listen to the rumblings and the rumors, Cowboy coaches simply grew weary of it.”
These are direct excerpts from Jenni’s column, it certainly appears that these are the sources for her article. At least the closest she comes to a quotable source. Another sad day in American journalism- sometimes freedom of the press is “too free”.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:05 am
Tommy,
do you qualify for handicapped parking with that post? Does that humor draw laughs in Stillwater? You have been there, right? Oh.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:06 am
Who criticizes someone for buying food for their child? Jenni said something in the article about how how most kids Bobby’s age would rather “run naked across campus” than be seen eating with his mother, that is the stupidest thing that I have ever read in any newspaper, good for Bobby for taking the time before the game to be with his mother. Jenni, you are truly an embarrassment to the entire staff at the DOK. Not only did you personally attack a STUDENT athlete, but you did it going off of rumors and gossip. I usually don’t put to much stock into what the media says, but this is absolutely rediculous. Good for Coach Gundy for standing up for his players, if he doesn’t do it then no one will. Someone has to keep the “journalists” at the DOK from spreading their idiotic slanderish filth. Oh, and if you are wondering, I am not an Oklahoma State fan. In fact, I am a sophmore at the University of Oklahoma. Even as an OU fan, I am disgusted by the childish trash that you wrote. You know nothing about Bobby’s attitude, and you know nothing about why the coaches started Zac over Bobby. I truly hope that you are unemployed by Monday.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:09 am
When I read the article (before the press conference), I thought your comments about Bobby eating with his mother were just completely stupid. Her son attends school far from home and she drove a ways to watch the game. What in the heck is wrong with having a meal with him before they part ways again. You even belittled him for that. I am so glad that Mike Gundy had the guts to call you out for it. As for the OU fans commenting on here against Gundy, you know that you would be cheering Stoops on for doing the same thing.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:11 am
Way to go Gundy. No “Journalist” should write an article full of personal attacks that are preceded by “WORD IS” or “IF YOU BELIEVE THE RUMORS” or “THAT IS THE WORD”
That is stupid- I can read a freaking message board if I want to hear what the “WORD” is.
Jenni is nothing more than a lazy journalist who chose to write an article based on message board rumors
She deserves to get fired and so does her editor. If she would have written the same article about Paul Thompson when Bomar beat him out, she would have been fired.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:23 am
Hey Sooner fan….
Sooner Rule Says:
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:46 am
Mychael
Who wrote the article based on rumors??? You aren’t making any sense. Put the meth pipe down and get your kids out of the street and in bed.
Mychael says
Meth pipe? LMAO Different subject now….Who kick a few hundreds of families out of there homes? For what? Education? Nope a sports complex…..Your an idiot Shame and should be such of……shhhheeezzzz
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:26 am
She didn’t criticize him or his mother for her buying him food. She said his mother had to hand feed the food to him. Maybe if she was able to complete some passes and have a work ethic for him he’d still have the starting job, too. Keep drinking the Gundy Kool-Aid and it won’t matter how much money Boone donates, the program will always stink. Gundy is just mad that people on his staff are giving info he hasn’t approved to the media.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:43 am
I guess the article is up for interpretation but I do not see the term “hand fed” in the article…whatever
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:00 am
You are a disgrace to the JokeOklahoman. It is unreal how you can keep being so wrong about things. First Eddie Sutton is a disgrace to OSU now this. Please think about taking some journalism classes before writing another article. You are absolutlely pathetic. And yes you can be downgraded you get paid to write you nonsense. Bobby Reid does not get paid to play football at OSU it is a privilage to play but he still has to go to class. If it weren’t for Rhode and Tramel I would call you the worst writer alive!
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 am
Come Monday I will be canceling my subscription until this Trash is taken care of. And I will be also pushing for the 100+ other subscription holders at my place of work do also. Its time some of the trash is taken care of and cleaned up. I USE to think that the DOK had integrity and wisdom when it came to sports. But HOW can you rip an AMATEUR STUDENT ATHLETE?!?! Did he tell you “no comment” and not give u an interview so now you are upset at him?
The DOK needs to post something come Monday at the latest or I see a TON of subscriptions being lost!
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:09 am
Honestly, the article Gundy was up in arms about hardly seems worth all his gusto. And in an odd way, the fact that Gundy felt he had to put on that hysterical display after Bobby Reid’s mother gave him a copy of the article actually seems to support the article’s overall theme more than ever. Basically he was saying that Reid wasn’t man enough to take critical articles being written about him.
Which really, if you think about it, is a pretty strange claim — Reid is a 22 year-old multi-year starter, worse things have been written and especially said by commentators about 18 year-old freshmen QB’s. The article’s whole point was that after four years as a college football player Reid should be a lot more mature than his play and actions have shown. So Coach Gundy charges to Reid’s defense by screaming that Bobby Reid is still like a young teenager that is greatly affected by harsh criticism?
I don’t know, the more I think I about it, the more Gundy’s outburst seems ridiculous. Claiming “I don’t read it” at the beginning of the tirade only to quote his own supposed facts and state falsely that coaches were quoted as calling Reid scared.
And didn’t Gundy say it was okay to go after his players if they “don’t act right” isn’t that what the writer thought they were doing — calling Reid for his failings on the field?
“Greatest offense in the world” now this — storming off after a hypocritical nonsensical rant about a player who didn’t even take the field during his team’s most impressive offensive win of the year so far — rather than praising his players and fans?
Gundy’s looking more and more like the Head Idiot rather than Head Coach. No wonder his players continue to under-perform.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:12 am
Jenni,
Ask your peers about Frank Boggs. Frank was a sports writer in the late 70’s at your paper that was fired for writing negative stories on OU. Will history repeat itself? Probably not getting much sleep huh.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 am
I think it’s more likely that Coach Gundy’s job just got a whole lot less secure than Jenni Carlson’s…
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:30 am
I have NEVER been more impressed by any coach (and I had two sons who played football from little league through college) than I was today by Mike Gundy. His honest emotion was refreshing. It was a very bright moment in college athletics. A coach who actually had the “guts” to stand up to the media in support of one of his student-athletes. College athletes are not PAID athletes. They’re not like pros who make the big bucks and because of that become fair game for reporters. Unnecessary, degrading, criticism of a a college athlete who has never done anything, but exactly what his coaches have asked of him, should not be allowed by the editors. The sports pages of your paper are not supposed to resemble the National Enquirer. They should be factual, not based on innuendos and “rumors and rumblings”. As a mother, I am appalled that you took what was probably a sweet, tender moment between mother and son and used it to belittle him. I would be so devestated and angry, I’m sure I would have been looking for you with some major “whup ass” on my mind. My hope is that you have learned something from all of this and won’t be repeating it in the future.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:33 am
Anon,
The name you use says you are a coward and your comments say you are an idiot.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 am
Mmm, not sure how “Jim in Newcastle” is anymore revealing…
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:41 am
It’s a pretty small place……you should be able to figure it out with a little detective work. I’m just down highway 9 from you.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:41 am
But okay I happen to be “Mike in Edmond”. Better?
And I’m sorry that truthful comments make you angry, but I can’t change the facts. Nor can I change that Bobby Reid has been a disappointment or that rather than allowing OSU fans and players finally enjoy happy emotions from a hard-fought win, Coach Gundy chose to create turmoil. Just what OSU’s season needed more of!
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:45 am
My mistake on my assumption of your location and your school loyalties………..I guess we just disagree on the coach’s handling of the situation. I think he was brilliant and I hope a university coach would react the same way if my child were slandered.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:47 am
Also rather than a simpleminded generalization, in calling me an idiot — are you capable of pointing out what parts of my argument above lead you to believe me so?
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:58 am
Jenni, you are a fine example of the worst reporters: inaccurate, demeaning, making allegations with no source whatsoever. Are you really intent on embarrassing and humiliating Bobby?
And for the gooners that are trying to find a way to make a case for condemning Mike Gundy–you are so pathetic. “Coach Gundy chose to create turmoil.” Are you listening to yourself, gooner?
What Mike did today was more than admonishing a lousy writer, he was creating a bond with his team that will last years. Today won’t be forgotten. His players are proud of him. They KNOW he is willing to take great risks to protect his players, and what he did today does have risks, make no mistake about it. But he was going to do what was right and I applaud him, just like most of the others in the room did when he finished with the lousy writer.
It will take another recruiting class or two or three, but Cowboy fans KNOW we have the right coach, the right facilities, and the right way to build a program that will be competitive with anyone. And we aren’t going to cheat to get there.
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 am
I just don’t agree it was worth creating a bigger story than OSU’s huge offensive win. Especially since we all know Bobby Reid is most likely not part of the future and getting back on track. There’s no “I” in team right? I think true head coach may have opened with a stern but controlled statement about it, and then moved on to say something like the teams performance is what truly matters over the media anyways and now all that he wants to discuss is what a great win it was today for OSU and its fans.
Now had OSU lost, I’d probably lean the other way as he would’ve been smart for Gundy to create a bigger story than his 1-3 opening record.
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 am
As a professional sports writer myself I was going to leave a comment about JC’s column. Then I thought……..”is it really worth my time?” The lack of further words speaks my answer.
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:25 am
Though I have not always agreed with Jenni Carlson and her opinion, she was right this time. The reason that Josh is playing is plain and simple. It is because Boone Pickens wants him to. The Pickens gift has strings and it will continue.
Pickens has proven that he wants the Cowboys to be OU of the North and won’t rest until either they are or he runs off anyone that doesn’t meet his criteria for coach. Beware Sean, so have said that the B-Balls might be in for a sub par performance and you know how Pickens feels about those. The University will rue the day that they accept his gift with the strings.
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:17 am
So many things in this incident sadden me. Jenni’s column was foolish and in poor taste, It should not have been published, she chose the wrong way and the wrong words to make her point. Mike Gundy SHOULD stand up for his players but I believe he chose the wrong way and the wrong place to voice his opinion and his emotion. He didn’t make things better or improve the iimage of my wonderful alma mater or our great state. In the reader comments here I’m embarassed when any Cowboy fan uses the term “Gooners” or “Jokelahoman”. Can’t you see that it makes US look stupid, and invalidates anything else you might have to say that is worthwhile, does more damage to our great University and State. When you resort to name-calling your behavior is no better than Jenni Carlson’s. Beyond that, what does OU have to do with ANY of this? I DO understand that Mike reacted like he did because HE CARES intensely. But we need to try to make something GOOD happen for OSU now, that’s what I care INTENSELY about. Jenni MUST apologize, especially to the Reid family, and retract her column. Mike needs to learn to control his temper. If you have a child don’t you need to speak to them WITHOUT ANGER? Fans need to show some class. Thoughtless words started all of this. Everyone needs to calm down and do the RIGHT things now. Let’s accept that people make mistakes and allow some room for forgiveness. If we CARE about PEOPLE intensely that’s what we as Oklahomans will do in the days ahead. Let’s build up, not tear down.
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:53 am
Actually, I hate OSU, dont care for them at all. I am a TU guy first and OU guy second. I never disliked Gundy, just seemed like Dave Rader was at TU, a good guy that probably wouldnt win. HOWEVER, after seeing him stand up to defend his player today, he has earned my respect and I will be pulling for the Cowboys. As a coach, he is held accountable for his actions, words, etc. but reporters are free to spew whatever they want with no accountability whatsoever.
There are great reporters with the utmost integrity, there are others that are asinine controversy mongers who have to make up for their lack of talent and connections with backhanded compliments and farcical prevarications based solely on their sensational value. This “reporter” wrote a fiction article for the sole purpose of garnering a response. Well, you got your response, and it was a nice smack to the head that you will likely not recover from. Enjoy fading into oblivion.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:04 am
I hate to disagree, but college athletes are PAID athletes. They get a free education that costs some people tens of thousands of dollars in loan debt and can take 20 years to pay off.
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:23 am
Ms. Carlson….Admit your poor judgement and ask for forgiveness . Oklahomans have a great capacity to forgive .
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:35 am
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September 23rd, 2007 at 7:43 am
My not renewing my Oklahoman Subscription has just be justified. Why can’t the papers just write the facts? Jenny you must apologize to Reid and his family. Yes Coach Gundy did go a little overboard, but his passion for his team is to be commended. GO POKES!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:44 am
Gundy is my new hero. He is slightly unbalanced but he did the right thing and stood up for his player. Bottom line is you really put you foot in it. You were 100% deserving of this ass chewing. It is a little bit unfortunate that Gundy decided to this on film as you have now been basically branded as “that reporter who Gundy destroyed.” So what do you do. You apologize! To the player in person and in print, preferably in you paper but if you don’t have that type of editorial sway here on this blog would suffice.
Now I think you understand respect is a two-way street.
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:46 am
Jenni, you are wrong. Again.
Gundy had every right to blast you.
Thanks for proving you are no journalist.
Now everyone knows you are not qualified to write about football.
Why you are still employed is beyond me.
The right thing to do is resign your position. But you’re not known for doing the right thing, are you?
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:54 am
You should apply at the NY times……I’m certain that your credibility is shot with your reader with this news publication. I am in Ohio and I have read the article and watched the response from Coach Gundy. This kind of nonsense of being printed daily throughout the country. Maybe this why newspaper subscriptions are down nationwide? You deserve the public shame in this case. The kid you wrote about did not. Good Luck.
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:56 am
I’m an OU fan and no great fan of Gundy, but he has a point. Carlson’s article was more befitting a Rupert Murdock newspaper. I’m sure you received your information from very reliable rumors. Having a daughter who played college basketball, it was a privilege to bring or take food to her when the opportunity arose. Jenni, it was totally classless to bring family into your opinion. I hope you find the backbone to make a comment and some sort of apology in future days. For many media types in todays sportswriting culture feel empowered to dish it out, but become very thinned skinned when they get criticized. Don’t be one of those types Jenni.
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:56 am
Jenni, you suck.
And so does Mike Sherman for allowing your crap to go forward.
YOU should be fired!
September 23rd, 2007 at 8:50 am
I have a degree in journalism from Ohio State and covered sports for several newspapers after I graduated. It is attitudes and articles like the one you wrote that made me switch my profession. Sports no longer became something I enjoyed. It became what dirt can we dig up to sell papers.
I am a high school journalism teacher now and I will use your hit piece as an example of how not to cover high school and college athletes. Pro players are fair game but kids in college don’t need to be ripped up by a sorry “journalist” like you. You are an example of what is wrong in sports journalism.
Jay Sparks
September 23rd, 2007 at 10:04 am
I am confused. Is Ms. Carlson a sports writer or opinion editorial writer? And I do recognize some opinion goes along with sports writing but mentioning Bobby Reid being fed chicken (whatever that means) by his mother is unnecessary and in poor taste. Ms. Carlson should have stuck to stats in justifying the article on Bobby Reid but instead attacked his character. Although, I feel Coach Gundy’s outburst was a little overboard and detracted from the victory of the game, I am proud of him for defending his players.
September 23rd, 2007 at 10:08 am
Let me take this opportunity to clarify some things. I was raised as an OSU fan, my father holds two degrees from the school, and I am an alumni. It’s not easy being a pokes fan and having to constantly listen to Sooners saying, “you just hate OU because we win”, and other similar statements. I very rarely visit any type of sport message boards due to the inevitable “you guys suck”, or “Gundy sucks”, or “you’ll always be losers”. I will gladly be the first to admit that I wish OSU had the football tradition that OU does, and I wish our team consistently competed for the national champ title, and I will gladly say that Bob Stoops is a college football genius, but that’s not why i dislike OU. It’s the fans. OU fans obviously are unfamiliar with the term “good sportsmanship”. When you are a winner at anything competitive, it is not necessary to get in the face of the loser and say, “you suck”. The fact that you won should do all the talking. The classy winner will go as far as to encourage their opponent, “good job, you’ll probably win next time”. I remember a Texas A&M fan approaching me after a game they had won at Stillwater and saying that they had a great time and that all the OSU fans were so nice that they would definitely come back to future games there. The point is that most OU fans think we hate OU because they are good and we are jealous, but the truth is we hate OU because of their fans. They are childish, boastful, and poor sports that don’t know how to win with class. Most OSU fans either attended the college or have family that did. All you have to do to be an OU fan is go into any Walmart and buy a hat.
September 23rd, 2007 at 10:47 am
Touche, eleven. I am a University of Texas alumni who has lived in Oklahoma for the past 8 years. I will always cheer for OSU over OU for the exact reasons that you so eloquently stated. Gundy is my hero as well today.
September 23rd, 2007 at 10:55 am
Jenni..”.thing is” you sounded pathetic in your article. You were so biased and cut throat. How did you get a job when you of all people should know you do not begin a sentence with..”Thing is..” now who sounds like verbal “CHICKEN SCRATCH”? Do they actually pay you to be grammatically incorrect and represent Oklahoma and it’s views? I support all who discontinue the subscriptions to the Oklahoman. I just moved here from Arizona and to be honest I have never cared for this paper. The one time I did choose to pick it up and read your article was the last since the most recent. Now I know why I was ashamed, angered and disgusted to to be grouped in the same line of work as you, your not a writer…have you ever heard of character assassination? How does it feel?
September 23rd, 2007 at 11:09 am
Just amazes me how you can print whatever you want, from whatever “sources” you deem credible, and then call it fact.
You’re a joke Jenni and trust me when I say it is not just OSU fans who think this, it is OU as well.
Your editor has now become a lughing stock as well.
You should feel very proud of yourself and maybe one day when you have a child of your own, you will understand how poor your article truly was.
September 23rd, 2007 at 11:10 am
Dear Jenni -
How long will you hide before commenting on this debacle? You’re about to become a household name, and not in a good way. The O’Reilly Factor wants to talk to you, yet neither you nor Mike Sherman wants to make yourselves available. Why?
September 23rd, 2007 at 11:18 am
I agree with Ed from Los Angeles, your name is going to be a household name and not in a good way. Do you see how this is sparking upset all over the country. You should be proud.
You are so ready to spew such hurtful words yet you do not seem ready to stand behind those words. Do not hide behind the paper. COME FORTH and be accountable.
I agree Bill O’Reilly needs to interview you….who feels scared now? Perhaps need to puke? Kinda like a CHICKEN!
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:00 pm
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September 23rd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
mike gundy…. you the man!! jeni carlson, sorry sweatheart, but you scewed up. i am a anti- osu fan. but , after gundys’ tirade last night, i’d go into battle with him any day! give it up jeni and go home.
September 23rd, 2007 at 12:44 pm
You, Ms. Carlson, deserve everything that Gundy gave you today. It takes an adult to know that college football isn’t everything in life. Shame on you, shame on you.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Don’t you have a QB’s knee to go interview? I hear TL’s knee really misses you. Go back to Kansas, and take the rest of the Oklahoma media with you.
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Jenni, was the chicken reference a subconscious rascist remark?
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Jenni Carlson, todays worst person in the woooorrrrrrrrlllld!!!
September 23rd, 2007 at 1:53 pm
OK, a few points:
1. As a former colleague of Jenni, I can tell you that she’s a talented reporter and writer who knows her stuff. I’m sure her sources are legit — do you wonder why some of them don’t want their names mentioned? Just read a few of the idiotic comments on this page.
2. Sorry, I’m going to believe her sources before I listen to some of you fanboy losers.
3. Attention Saturday Night Live writers: Look! It’s all here, already written! I know you guys don’t give a jack about Oklahoma, but just take a quick gander:
* “IF SOMEBODY MAKES FUN OF HIM BECAUSE HE DROPPED A PASS IN A PICKUP GAME, OR SAID HE’S FAT AND HE COMES HOME CRYING TO HIS MOM, you’d understand!”
* “COME AFTER ME! “I’M A MAN! I’M 40!”
4. I think we all know who the worst person in the world is …
5. The most telling part: When Gundy says that he hopes Jenni has a kid who is belittled one day. Because then she could softly say to said child, “You know what? That’s OK. They’re supposed to be mature adults; they’re really not.” So, Gundy, why weren’t YOU a mature adult?
6. Of course, my favorite quote: “AND THE EDITOR WHO LET IT COME OUT IS GARBAGE!” Awesome!
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Isn’t it interesting that we have the fightin’ toby keith fanbase / scumbag ou fans coming out like the cockroach fanbase you are showing the support of poor little jenni. So typical.
By the way, the reference Gundy was making about ‘our society’ is the ridiculous dusty dvoracek stories about how he has overcame so much adversity (actually, he beat up his friend to a bloody pulp).
Let’s face it jenni, you cater to the mullet wearing fan base to the south that picks up their ou hat at a gas station and couldn’t tell us the difference between the ou student union or the library.
That makes me want to puke.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Well, Jenni’s right about one thing, though. Being fed by your mother is lame, and does prove that Reid is a pampered baby who’s used to putting himself before everybody else. As long as the “amateur” players get the kind of attention they do - i.e there are columns about them - they can be criticized liked everybody else. Coach Gumby is a 40-year-old baby and I expected his Mom stand up and defend him at the press conference as well.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:34 pm
For the record, “eleven,” I had soft drinks and spit cups dumped on me while we in the OU band were leaving the stadium in Stoolwater back in the ’80s. I don’t know when the Cowboy fan base developed the sportsmanship you describe — having never returned to that stadium since — but if it’s true, I think it’s admirable. Are OU fans out of hand many times? Absolutely. But, like you, we are not all the same.
As for Ms. Carlson, I found the article to be mean-spirited and completely out of line. If you feel the need to be cutthroat with athletes, please move out of the state where you can start stalking professional athletes in their private moments of despair. (Kind of creepy, don’t you think, to be watching a player interact with his mother from afar? Not to mention extrapolating a whole big theme from it.)
There are many who would love to read such muckraking tabloidism. But not me. It’s just one of the many reasons I watch football on Saturdays and never Sunday.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Johnny,
I am an OSU student. In 2001 when OSU beat OU in Norman I was wearing orange. I was walking out of the stadium and got spit on by more than one person. Also I knew a girl that was waiting on the street for a ride and 5 frat boys came by and poured beer and her and threw her to the ground. Also 2 years later my dad was leaving the game in Norman and he was verbally assaulted by several OU frat boys asking him if he “liked that a$$ kicking old man?” So i don’t care what you think about OSU. The fact is I have been to eleven out of the 12 football venues in the Big 12 and OU is BY FAR NOT EVEN CLOSE the worse bunch of fans ever in history. I also find it funny that when you talk to other fans such as Nebraska or Kansas they all say the same thing. OU fans are trash and Jenni Carlson is trash.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Reading this blog I just had a big case of deja vu. Hasn’t this happened in a very similar fashion before? Jenni writes article, someone goes ape about it on TV, Jenni’s blog is blown up? Have people not accepted the fact that this is her style of writing and always has been whether you like it or not. I don’t see her changing. I do thank you Jenni for the comedy gold that has come from this. Someday maybe the Aggies will realize how good a coach Lester really was/is, but I doubt it, for some reason they love “The Hair” Which is fine by me cause getting beat by the Aggies was getting old with Lester around..
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Oh come on Johnny I’ve been going to OU/OSU games for well over 20 years. Everyone has it’s share of bad fans.. OSU, KU,KSU, NU, whatever. I like how OSU fans are always the good guys. No spitting or keying of cars ever going on around that stadium.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Its a shame we dont have an unbiased paper here in the city area.
Even Trammel cant admit hes biased,plus the fact all the writers are paid for by the Gaylords. Thats why the editor wont retract or apologize,they would lose their jobs. Barry Trammel once wrote to me he can write anything he wants and doesnt fear for his job. Something to ponder,would anyone on the staff ever write anthing like this towards an OU player? The staff wont even speculate on why an OU player was getting his free gas. You see the paper isnt interested in the truth,just some way to try and keep putting OSU down. Did you see the headlines on the front page today? Anyway to try and create controversey against OSU, isnt that your real jobs? And your paid well for it , we assume.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Jenni, you need to crawl on your knees to the Reid family and beg their forgiveness. It doesn’t matter how “accurate” your rumors were, that was as trashy an article as I’ve ever read. Mike, keep up the good work. Great win on Saturday Cowboys, you never quit and you performance on the field made this Okie proud.
My dad graduated from Oklahoma A&M in 1948. I knew the words to Ride ‘em Cowboys before I was 5. I was cheering in the stands when Phil Cutchins OSU teams beat OU in 65 and 66. I ended up at OU for a lot of reasons, not important here and have 2 degrees from OU. I love both schools. There are a LOT of Oklahomans who feel the same way I do.
Jenni’s article was way way way wrong and she needs to apologize. I don’t blame Mike, he was right to blast her.
That said, I cannot believe the hypocrisy of the OSU fans here, calling OU fans names, accusing OU of cheating and somehow trying to bring OU into this mess. AND THEN you have the gall to say say you hate OU BECAUSE of the OU FANS.
Out of 134 posts here there is ONE by an OSU fan that shows any class. There are several that ASSUME that anybody who defends Jenni is an OU fan without any basis. IF OSU fans OR OU fans want to be treated with respect they need to earn it and deserve it. I HATE the OU troll fans, too, but does calling an OU fan a Gooner or a cockroach make a Cowboy fan classier somehow? No, it makes you look like an idiot, the same kind of idiot who says OSU s*cks. My FATHER and his generation set the example for me that I wish we could ALL follow. We are ALL Oklahomans, both schools have OKLAHOMA in their name. If you care about OKLAHOMA you will respect the accomplishments and traditions of your rival and be PROUD for our STATE when the other school does well. ENOUGH of this trash talk about OU here. Does OU blame OSU when negative things happen? Never. Do OSU fans find a way to blame OU whenever they can? Read these posts and YOU tell me the answer. That attitude will make OSU look 2nd best no matter what OSU accomplishes. Bashing OU will NEVER make OSU look better. And if you hate OU fans because of they way they act, why do YOU act the same way? Does that make any sense at ALL? Why have you turned this into a forum for hating OU?
Back to the real story which has NOTHING to do with OU. Jenni, you need to crawl on your knees to the Reid family and beg their forgiveness. It doesn’t matter how “accurate” your rumors were, that was as trashy an article as I’ve ever read. Mike, keep up the good work. Great win on Saturday Cowboys, you never quit and you performance on the field made this Okie proud.
September 23rd, 2007 at 2:59 pm
Tom,
first let’s find a momma hand feeding her OU baby boy and who is a whiner and then she if a story is written about it. And isn’t whining an admirable trait in CowBOY land? You all are really good at it. Just shut up and let your football team get some respect for their win yesterday. It doesn’t happen very often.
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pm
In response to James Tyrone’s first post:
“4. I think we all know who the worst person in the world is …”
Possibilities:
- Toby Keith
- Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
- Jenni Carlson
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Hey Sam, Sittler doesn’t work for the DOK.
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Too bad after a game where we had three rushers gain over 100 yards each, all we can talk about is a writer and a player who rarely got on the field.
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:13 pm
If you want to make an intelligent argument, then do so, but if the only thing you can come up with is that she is fat, that’s stupid.
Robert Allen is fat. Bob Barry Jr. is fat. Jim Traber is fat. Jenni is not even close. Read the column and try to come back with something she said that’s not true.
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Miss Chris,
if you were a man, I would battle you, but you’re not. Sorry.
September 23rd, 2007 at 3:26 pm
This writer should be shown the door first thing monday morning. I have never read such putrid garbage in my entire life.
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:14 pm
I agree that this is not about who has the moral high ground: OSU or OU. We both have plenty of good fans and plenty of share of rednecks.
This is about shoddy journalism from a mediocre rag called the Daily Oklahoman. Please focus on the real issue. The rag paper not who is better…OSU or OU. Things like this we both look like asses.
With all of that said, Jenni “not Craig” Carlson needs to go and work the drive thu somewhere…
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:15 pm
James-
You are so wrong, so wrong it’s pathetic. You said you would believe Jenni’s “sources”??? That’s the problem pal, she had no sources, she wrote a borderline racist column and definitely a column laced with hatred and venom simply based on rumors that she’s heard. What a joke. There is no other newspaper in America that would still have Jenni Carlson and Mike Sherman on the payroll today. Even if the column was not completely off color (which it was) most newspapers worth their salt would not tolerate fabricated stories attacking an innocent young person. This whole thing is so embarrassing to the Oklahoman and the entire state. Television shows and newspapers all over the nation are ripping our state today all because one attention starved little girl had to make a few things up and attack a young man. Terrible. I just hope that people around the country realize that all Oklahomans are not as juvenile and uneducated as Carlson and Sherman.
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:17 pm
Racist? What was racist? Don’t go playing the black card just because you have nothing left to stand on!
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:23 pm
I agree there is no race card. Just a mean column from a third rate paper.
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Funny link
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:42 pm
I’ve always hear dof the “Joklahoman” even in Tulsa, this lady is a moron, why is she wriing for the sports section??, Is she related to the owners of the paper?? she should be fired, an so should the sports editor, if he/she did their job and actually id edit her story. I hope she gets fired Monday!!!!!! If not I will pull all of my advertising from the “joklahoman” beginning Tuesday !!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:42 pm
She does talk about an African-American eating Fried Chicken… using her own rules about sources and checking facts before printing, it could be racially motivated… (Rev Jackson? Mr Sharpton? Care to chime in?)
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:47 pm
To Chris in OKC:
Spot On! Finally, someone makes a comment that was a notch above the petty behavior rampant elsewhere in these comments. I am an OU graduate who (until recently) dated an OSU graduate, and it was ridiculous how much she hated OU without even being able to give me one tangible reason other than “they think they are better than us”. Unreasonable hatred, whether it is because of a Football program or the color of ones skin, is still a disgusting behavior, and should be relegated to the dustbin of history. When I caught this video today I wanted to cheer for Gundy….he stood up for his players. While Stoops might have done it differently, he would have slammed this article too if it had been about one of his players.
To the folks who have commented about mistreatment while at Norman, I’m sorry that you had that experience at Norman….Did anyone call the police? Report the assault to the University? If they did then I would assume that they had their day in court. Most OU fans are more than classy. During the spring game this year I nearly got into a fight with 3 frat guys because they were verbally attacking a guy wearing an OSU shirt. I stood up for that guy and nearly got beat up. If i had the chance I would do it all over again. These guys were definitely in the minority. I am an OU fan and will always be an OU fan, however I also have a lot of pride in my state and will pull for the Cowboys whenever they are not playing my Sooners. Jenni Carlson, your article was shameful….deleting comments was just classless.
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Dave,
I am an OSU grad and still an OSU fan. I have never really been fond of the OU football progrm until coach Stoops showed up. He is a class act and looks like the player are also. I think the problem that OSU has with OU is just the fans, and most of the fans are not OU grads, they love OU because the love a winner,, these I have come to find are the most obnoxious. I have alot of friend that are OU fans and they actually have a tie, graduatd, med school, parents went to OU, etc. Its all the other nuckleheads that give OU a bad rap.
GO POKES !!!! GO SOONERS!!!
September 23rd, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Jenni it seems like youve united many OSU and OU fans. A majority of us agree, your an idiot.
September 23rd, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Since when does eating fried chicken make you black? I love fried chicken and am white. Oh please, try harder to find something to be offended about.
And all the OU fans I know wish Jenni would write more revealing stories about what really happens in Stillwater.
Whine, whine, pass me the wine. Oops. that is basketball.
September 23rd, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Jenni,
I am a journalism student, and I have to ask, where did you go to school? Where did your editor go to school? Not only is your sentence structure pathetic, but your view of college life is pure fantasy. I hope you get sacked, I hope your editor gets demoted to obits, and please, stay away from the sports column.
September 23rd, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Why are you crying over bad press from a sportswriter?
Dusty was punished. Bomar was punished. Broyles is being punished.
OUr players are not immune to bad press.
Go chill out and get a nice stiff drink. With Eddie Sutton.
ABS OU’97
September 23rd, 2007 at 5:24 pm
You should be ashamed of yourself. You are a despicable person for trashing a player who makes great sacrifices to be part of the team. He lost his starting job and your response is to trash him, while you sit in your ivory tower casting criticism toward a kid that had his dreams dashed by getting benched. Congratulations, you are a piece of trash, Jenni.
September 23rd, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Comment #132 says it better than I ever could. This entire episode is parody.
Although I do indeed think the chicken thing may have been a bit of a cheapshot, the underlying point appears to be true. And it sure is convenient that the coach never once mentioned the fact that his chicken-eating quarterback appears to be done for the season. As far as I know, a sportswriter didn’t bench him. The coach did. Unless the present quarterback gets hurt, Reid may as well send out for Mom’s chicken delivery during games. Take those nice big bites out of those juicy wings, legs and breasts when he’s not otherwise yucking it up on the sidelines giggling, “Why did the chicken cross the road?”
September 23rd, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Gundy’s tirade was fake. He didn’t care about this column one way or the other.
All this was was a b.s. rant to save face and make an impression as a guy who stands up for his players.
Oh, and for the editors at the Oklahoman canning Jenni, are you kidding? She’s not only continued to do what columnists do, but she’s also probably doubled the Web site’s number of hits.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:02 pm
Comment #167: “Jenni it seems like youve united many OSU and OU fans. A majority of us agree, your an idiot.”
I copied that sentence verbatim. If anybody out there has any semblance of English education, read that sentence closely. I certainly hope I’m not the only one that can see the hilarious irony is that yutz’s world. Unfortunately, the term “moronic” seems to be the rule around here, not the exception.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:05 pm
A writer for Sports Illustrated said “Gundy’s speech was obviously deliberately planned.” Probably to take some heat off of his defense - oops, OSU Doesn’t have a defense.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Oops. A typo. I meant the hilarious irony IN that yutz’s world. Oh, who cares.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Exactly.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:07 pm
What sportswriter, Jim in Comment #175? Post a link.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:08 pm
I think “Jim” is actually JENNI.
As for “checking the facts,” I’ll take Gundy’s word for it that what Carlson wrote is not true.
All this petty squabbling between OU and OSU fans makes ME want to puke. Both schools have their share of obnoxious fans. We should unite against this lying, ignorant columnist and put her working behind the counter of a KFC where she belongs.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:08 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/football/ncaa/
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Invoice Jones,
how many coaches have protested against things written about their programs? Some might say Gumby protests a bit too loudly … what is he hiding?
Gumby doesn’t read the newspaper … oh, but someone brought him this to read … this is why he doesn’t read the paper. Have Gumby get his story straight first!
It is obvious Gumby could never work at a KFC - he couldn’t keep the orders straight. He is a loser - always has been, always will be … like being an Agie.
And gee, I wish I were an OU or OSU fan so that I could be obnoxious too. Darn.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Sorry, Aggie - not Agie. I would not want to offend you.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Jim, you are a funny, funny individual. I’d ask you to share a bucket of chicken with me, but I’m a vegetarian.
Have a good day.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:33 pm
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1111406010/bclid1112157274/bctid1184497281
Everyone should watch this link. Seems as if JC is confused. How can you praise him (Reid) with a video blog and then trash him with a written column.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Jenni got OWNED!
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:40 pm
I wonder if Jim says even knows where Mike Gundy played college football. Well, let me remind Jim Says….Oklahoma State calling signals in front of Barry Sanders. The two were indeed winners, Holiday Bowl (1988) over Wyoming. So how can one call him a loser. He held most noteable OSU passing stats until a few years ago when Fields was playing.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:42 pm
“ABSooner Says:
September 23rd, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Why are you crying over bad press from a sportswriter?
Dusty was punished. Bomar was punished. Broyles is being punished.
OUr players are not immune to bad press.”
Big difference. Dusty, Bomar, and Broyles all have a documented history of trouble with the law or fragrantly breaking NCAA rules. No Rumor, no speculation. Only facts.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Gumby is a loser - Sanders carried him Where has Gumby (by himself) been a winner as a coach? And who has he beaten? Baylor, Kansas, Jenni, … any ranked teams?
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:46 pm
As a head coach…….ALABAMA
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Alabama? Ranked what and by whom? They were so bad they fired their coach!
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:52 pm
How can you say Sanders carried Gundy. I will say Barry was the eighth wonder of the world when it came to carrying a football and I praise Pat Jones for “misplacing” Sanders’ recruiting film after he watched it in order to keep other schools from getting him.
But if it wasn’t for Gundy being able to throw the ball, and people having to respect that, then some of the lanes for Sanders may not have been there.
They complimented each other. Neither carried the other.
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:52 pm
check this week’s ranking …both AP and coaches poll. They have been ranked all year since Saban took over
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Alabama…22 to 24 in the AP/ Coaches and Harris polls
September 23rd, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Alabama was not ranked when they played OSU.