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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right. Congrats on you tainted title you cheating punk. lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right. Congrats on you tainted title you cheating punk. lol</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 03:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jared are you out there? That was a nice post you made a few days ago (We will see how well your “defense” does against us Friday. We will not cry about bad knees, wind, or extra points. It’s not even going to be that close.)

Your right it was not that close]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared are you out there? That was a nice post you made a few days ago (We will see how well your “defense” does against us Friday. We will not cry about bad knees, wind, or extra points. It’s not even going to be that close.)</p>
<p>Your right it was not that close</p>
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		<title>By: Defenders Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Defenders Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Jared.....oh Jared, I got a big ole spoon for ya!!! Are ya ready to eat alittle CROW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jared&#8230;..oh Jared, I got a big ole spoon for ya!!! Are ya ready to eat alittle CROW.</p>
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		<title>By: schooner</title>
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		<dc:creator>schooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Macmom I share your views on 99% of your post except... and I believed this after the game myself but went back and checked it, the refs were unusually slow at spotting the ball the majority of the game... it was clearly more noticeable when the clock mattered at the end of the game but everything else you posted is very valid... it is my understanding that Guthrie&#039;s coach get to practice and prepare the team as well as be there before and after the game... realistically the head coach doesn&#039;t make many calls during the game at that level so I ask how much of a punishment is it really?... and I can validate you statement about the Mac coaches as we have had at least 3 move-ins that I know about that were dealt with in a proper manner... two of which are brothers who would&#039;ve maybe cracked the starting lineup in the WR corps if not solidified it and made it deeper, that are sitting out this year]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macmom I share your views on 99% of your post except&#8230; and I believed this after the game myself but went back and checked it, the refs were unusually slow at spotting the ball the majority of the game&#8230; it was clearly more noticeable when the clock mattered at the end of the game but everything else you posted is very valid&#8230; it is my understanding that Guthrie&#8217;s coach get to practice and prepare the team as well as be there before and after the game&#8230; realistically the head coach doesn&#8217;t make many calls during the game at that level so I ask how much of a punishment is it really?&#8230; and I can validate you statement about the Mac coaches as we have had at least 3 move-ins that I know about that were dealt with in a proper manner&#8230; two of which are brothers who would&#8217;ve maybe cracked the starting lineup in the WR corps if not solidified it and made it deeper, that are sitting out this year</p>
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		<title>By: macmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>macmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both teams played a good game. Props to both O&#039;s and D&#039;s. Both teams played with great sportsmanship also. With that said, you can say all you want about Guthrie being the best. However don&#039;t fail to state the fact that the buffaloes held Guthrie better than any other team has as of yet and we are half the size. If you want to talk about heart, we should probably mention things like the fact (just an example) my son lined up against someone 5in taller than him and 100 lbs heavier than him and held him all day long. I believe that with different weather and refs that would actually man the clock accordingly and spot the ball as they should, there might be different teams playing in Stillwater next week. Not to say that our PATs didn&#039;t put us in the position we are in, but you shouldn&#039;t speak as if Guthrie just dominated. Lastly, your boys are big and talented athletes, however your coach is I believe manipulative and not necessarily the most honest person in the crowd. Should Guthrie have been in that game? In a sense yes, because it is not the team&#039;s fault. On the other hand, the team is a team and pays the consequences when another teammate screws up. ie-your coach. The coach knows the rules that are clearly stated and he should have checked to make sure all were followed not come back later and acted as a martyr. I will say that the McAlester coaching staff when we moved made sure that all paperwork was done correctly so that we did not break rules. Tell me how one can know and one not? I hope that people are aware of the bad decision that OSSAA has made and the precedent that it will take years to overcome. With that said I wish both Guthrie and Lawton Mac a safe game and a good job to the Guthrie boys for Saturday&#039;s win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both teams played a good game. Props to both O&#8217;s and D&#8217;s. Both teams played with great sportsmanship also. With that said, you can say all you want about Guthrie being the best. However don&#8217;t fail to state the fact that the buffaloes held Guthrie better than any other team has as of yet and we are half the size. If you want to talk about heart, we should probably mention things like the fact (just an example) my son lined up against someone 5in taller than him and 100 lbs heavier than him and held him all day long. I believe that with different weather and refs that would actually man the clock accordingly and spot the ball as they should, there might be different teams playing in Stillwater next week. Not to say that our PATs didn&#8217;t put us in the position we are in, but you shouldn&#8217;t speak as if Guthrie just dominated. Lastly, your boys are big and talented athletes, however your coach is I believe manipulative and not necessarily the most honest person in the crowd. Should Guthrie have been in that game? In a sense yes, because it is not the team&#8217;s fault. On the other hand, the team is a team and pays the consequences when another teammate screws up. ie-your coach. The coach knows the rules that are clearly stated and he should have checked to make sure all were followed not come back later and acted as a martyr. I will say that the McAlester coaching staff when we moved made sure that all paperwork was done correctly so that we did not break rules. Tell me how one can know and one not? I hope that people are aware of the bad decision that OSSAA has made and the precedent that it will take years to overcome. With that said I wish both Guthrie and Lawton Mac a safe game and a good job to the Guthrie boys for Saturday&#8217;s win.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My gripes are the OSSAA decision and no one from Guthrie can admit it would&#039;ve made a difference for Braxton to have played... Guthrie won fair and square and would&#039;ve undoubtedly had a plan to account for Braxton... But just the dynamic of him in the game changes the game as a whole... I have said and will hold that my attempts are not to attack the players of Guthrie... They are, and I hope the OSSAA is listening, to bring attention to the bad decision... I and every person tied with the program appreciate the compliments that are very much deserved... Guthrie has the best D in the state no arguements and maybe the best rushing O no doubt the played and executed period they are playing next week and we are getting ready for basketball season...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My gripes are the OSSAA decision and no one from Guthrie can admit it would&#8217;ve made a difference for Braxton to have played&#8230; Guthrie won fair and square and would&#8217;ve undoubtedly had a plan to account for Braxton&#8230; But just the dynamic of him in the game changes the game as a whole&#8230; I have said and will hold that my attempts are not to attack the players of Guthrie&#8230; They are, and I hope the OSSAA is listening, to bring attention to the bad decision&#8230; I and every person tied with the program appreciate the compliments that are very much deserved&#8230; Guthrie has the best D in the state no arguements and maybe the best rushing O no doubt the played and executed period they are playing next week and we are getting ready for basketball season&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Defenders Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Defenders Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was not refering to you, just like I am sure you were not comparing McAlesters Offense to a 3 legged deer. I will take you at your word that you are well educated, maybe it is your calculated attack on my sons team that I have a problem with, I understand that you have a legit gripe with the OSSAA but why try to make the Guthrie players look as bad and undeserving as possible, it was not their error nor their reversal of the error that got your ire up. As to Braxtons absence or the wind or the muffed extra points we will never know. I was however impressed with the sportsmanship of the players from McAlester and very impressed with the underrated defense of the Buffs, hats off to them and the defensive coaches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not refering to you, just like I am sure you were not comparing McAlesters Offense to a 3 legged deer. I will take you at your word that you are well educated, maybe it is your calculated attack on my sons team that I have a problem with, I understand that you have a legit gripe with the OSSAA but why try to make the Guthrie players look as bad and undeserving as possible, it was not their error nor their reversal of the error that got your ire up. As to Braxtons absence or the wind or the muffed extra points we will never know. I was however impressed with the sportsmanship of the players from McAlester and very impressed with the underrated defense of the Buffs, hats off to them and the defensive coaches.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually I&#039;m am very educated I just chose to voice my opinions that are validated by the article and the other people who respect Braxton&#039;s talent... Let&#039;s not sit there and look through blue and black Guthrie brand glasses]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I&#8217;m am very educated I just chose to voice my opinions that are validated by the article and the other people who respect Braxton&#8217;s talent&#8230; Let&#8217;s not sit there and look through blue and black Guthrie brand glasses</p>
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		<title>By: Defenders Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Defenders Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[or winning an argument with someone that has a 70 IQ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or winning an argument with someone that has a 70 IQ.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys get credit no doubt but do you not want the pride of knowing you did it against a full strength team? It&#039;s like say I shot the biggest deer with the biggest rack ever seen but he only had 3 legs to run with]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys get credit no doubt but do you not want the pride of knowing you did it against a full strength team? It&#8217;s like say I shot the biggest deer with the biggest rack ever seen but he only had 3 legs to run with</p>
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		<title>By: Defenders Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Defenders Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW still no justice for holding the best offense in the state (stat wise). Lets see, normally they rush for 211yards, against Guthries defense it was 60 yards, normally they pass for 288yards against the lucky Guthrie defense it was 142 yards (with 97yards on 3 plays) yep that is it, it was all offense. And Jared, yes we will see how the Bluejays defense does against the high scoring, run offense of the Lawton Mac Highlanders. I will just say with all due respect...good luck]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW still no justice for holding the best offense in the state (stat wise). Lets see, normally they rush for 211yards, against Guthries defense it was 60 yards, normally they pass for 288yards against the lucky Guthrie defense it was 142 yards (with 97yards on 3 plays) yep that is it, it was all offense. And Jared, yes we will see how the Bluejays defense does against the high scoring, run offense of the Lawton Mac Highlanders. I will just say with all due respect&#8230;good luck</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jared that is a big statement.  I hope Mac can blow them out, but don&#039;t see that happening.  Can&#039;t wait, this is the best Mac team I have seen, hopefully mistakes don&#039;t kill them, because that&#039;s what usually seems to happen even when we have the better team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared that is a big statement.  I hope Mac can blow them out, but don&#8217;t see that happening.  Can&#8217;t wait, this is the best Mac team I have seen, hopefully mistakes don&#8217;t kill them, because that&#8217;s what usually seems to happen even when we have the better team.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I promise you there was no fear in the McAlester players... the respected those boys talent but showed on the field they could handle them for the most part... and the plays that mattered werent made by Chappel for sure and im not sure which one Brown was... the plays that mattered for Guthrie were made by Davis and Callins and Dutton on offense... The Mac O was stopped as many times as Guthrie&#039;s O was, Guthrie&#039;s offense just executed a little better in the final mins... as I have said on here the throwback was genius... Guthrie showed the 28 Toss Pass against East Central I believe but threw to the play side and realistically no one accounts for the QB when there is a pass or a run away... and all of these mistakes except the bobbled snap on 4 and less than one were made early when McAlester was winning]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promise you there was no fear in the McAlester players&#8230; the respected those boys talent but showed on the field they could handle them for the most part&#8230; and the plays that mattered werent made by Chappel for sure and im not sure which one Brown was&#8230; the plays that mattered for Guthrie were made by Davis and Callins and Dutton on offense&#8230; The Mac O was stopped as many times as Guthrie&#8217;s O was, Guthrie&#8217;s offense just executed a little better in the final mins&#8230; as I have said on here the throwback was genius&#8230; Guthrie showed the 28 Toss Pass against East Central I believe but threw to the play side and realistically no one accounts for the QB when there is a pass or a run away&#8230; and all of these mistakes except the bobbled snap on 4 and less than one were made early when McAlester was winning</p>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[defense has everything to do with mistakes made. kids have nerves. they feel pressured and do things they cant control. to know theyre about to become a landry chappell zack brown sandwich prob doesnt sit well. 

pretty big statement there jared]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>defense has everything to do with mistakes made. kids have nerves. they feel pressured and do things they cant control. to know theyre about to become a landry chappell zack brown sandwich prob doesnt sit well. </p>
<p>pretty big statement there jared</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We will see how well your &quot;defense&quot; does against us Friday. We will not cry about bad knees, wind, or extra points.  It’s not even going to be that close.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will see how well your &#8220;defense&#8221; does against us Friday. We will not cry about bad knees, wind, or extra points.  It’s not even going to be that close.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this part of the state we call that a missed snap and a bobble snap that had nothing to do with defense and everything to do with poor execution... You can take credit on one of the failed conversions I guess... But even then the RB slipped after the pass was thrown and fell down even though he was wide open... Sorry defense didn&#039;t cause that]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this part of the state we call that a missed snap and a bobble snap that had nothing to do with defense and everything to do with poor execution&#8230; You can take credit on one of the failed conversions I guess&#8230; But even then the RB slipped after the pass was thrown and fell down even though he was wide open&#8230; Sorry defense didn&#8217;t cause that</p>
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		<title>By: TOMMY from "GUTROCK"</title>
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		<dc:creator>TOMMY from "GUTROCK"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IN THIS PART OF THE STATE WE CALL
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IN THIS PART OF THE STATE WE CALL<br />
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