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	<title>Comments on: High school football: Class 7A an awful idea</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from The Oklahoman Sports Columnist Berry Tramel &#124; NewsOK.com</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140330</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm - looks like Broken Arrow - the largest school in the state - is the one east-side school that loses.  How could that possibly happen?

Edmond North gave Jenks all it could handle.  The score doesn&#039;t indicate how close it was at the beginning of the fourth.

Doesn&#039;t look like the splitting of the Edmond district into three schools has hurt all that much - all three made the playoffs and two of them made quarterfinals, with decent chances to win.

Let&#039;s give the school size thing a rest for a decade or two.  Nobody is going to force anybody to split so other schools can be more competitive in one sport.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm &#8211; looks like Broken Arrow &#8211; the largest school in the state &#8211; is the one east-side school that loses.  How could that possibly happen?</p>
<p>Edmond North gave Jenks all it could handle.  The score doesn&#8217;t indicate how close it was at the beginning of the fourth.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t look like the splitting of the Edmond district into three schools has hurt all that much &#8211; all three made the playoffs and two of them made quarterfinals, with decent chances to win.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s give the school size thing a rest for a decade or two.  Nobody is going to force anybody to split so other schools can be more competitive in one sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Gragg</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140278</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Gragg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you west side folks think you could let this broken down horse you are rideing about school size makes a difference, rest if atleast one west 6A school wins tonight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you west side folks think you could let this broken down horse you are rideing about school size makes a difference, rest if atleast one west 6A school wins tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: C.D.</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140257</link>
		<dc:creator>C.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny Ryan! Next thing you know Jenks bloggers will show up here demanding that Norman, Edmond, and Moore all consolidate their schools so that they can find a real opponent on the way to the gold ball somewhere other than the Tulsa area and Texas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny Ryan! Next thing you know Jenks bloggers will show up here demanding that Norman, Edmond, and Moore all consolidate their schools so that they can find a real opponent on the way to the gold ball somewhere other than the Tulsa area and Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140249</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we should force Shattuck to split into 2 high schools.  To much West side dominanace in Class C.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should force Shattuck to split into 2 high schools.  To much West side dominanace in Class C.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140155</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like plan A. Although, due to politics either of these would get little attention. I totally agree that the first round of play offs mean nothing. There must be those who feel more teams need to make the playoffs because it makes the kids feel better. Only two teams from a district needs to make the playoffs. This was the way it was when I was in high school.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like plan A. Although, due to politics either of these would get little attention. I totally agree that the first round of play offs mean nothing. There must be those who feel more teams need to make the playoffs because it makes the kids feel better. Only two teams from a district needs to make the playoffs. This was the way it was when I was in high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Sao</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140118</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Sao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 06:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cap the size that a single school can be in comparison with other schools in the district. Union and Jenks would be forced to split.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cap the size that a single school can be in comparison with other schools in the district. Union and Jenks would be forced to split.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140022</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wayne, why does &quot;everybody need to feel like they have a chance?&quot;  I can guarantee you that even if there were 6 or 7 different teams that had won state over the past ten years, there would still be players on a lot of teams that, if they were honest, would admit they had little or no chance to get the gold ball.  Do you think the kids at PC West or US Grant would be more likely to win a 6A title if the 16 largest teams were taken to 7A?  Hardly.

Kenny, why is it &quot;dumb&quot; that Jenks and Union have won consistently over the past 16 years?  Why does something &quot;have to be done?&quot;  I saw Westmoore play at Jenks a couple of weeks ago and saw a darn good team that, if they played ten times at a neutral site, would win several of those games.  They very nearly beat Union on its own field last week, too.  There&#039;s not much of a gap between your school and those at the top.

In comparing to the Texas system of splitting their largest class into large and small during the playoffs, keep in mind that their 5A has far more schools in it than 6A does here.  Some of their schools have over 5,000 students and still have losing records.  I&#039;d bet that Kingfisher would give Jenks or Union a better game than some 6A schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne, why does &#8220;everybody need to feel like they have a chance?&#8221;  I can guarantee you that even if there were 6 or 7 different teams that had won state over the past ten years, there would still be players on a lot of teams that, if they were honest, would admit they had little or no chance to get the gold ball.  Do you think the kids at PC West or US Grant would be more likely to win a 6A title if the 16 largest teams were taken to 7A?  Hardly.</p>
<p>Kenny, why is it &#8220;dumb&#8221; that Jenks and Union have won consistently over the past 16 years?  Why does something &#8220;have to be done?&#8221;  I saw Westmoore play at Jenks a couple of weeks ago and saw a darn good team that, if they played ten times at a neutral site, would win several of those games.  They very nearly beat Union on its own field last week, too.  There&#8217;s not much of a gap between your school and those at the top.</p>
<p>In comparing to the Texas system of splitting their largest class into large and small during the playoffs, keep in mind that their 5A has far more schools in it than 6A does here.  Some of their schools have over 5,000 students and still have losing records.  I&#8217;d bet that Kingfisher would give Jenks or Union a better game than some 6A schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140020</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is funny to read the comments.  No problem seeing who is from the Tulsa area and who is from the OKC area.  Also, comparing Oklahoma and Texas high schools is a bit ridiculous.  Look at the number of high schools in each state.  So, you cannot run high school athletics in Oklahoma like you can in Texas.  It just doesn’t work.   One of the real problems with Oklahoma athletics is the same problem that is with Oklahoma schools.  Too many school districts.  Florida is a much larger state and has much fewer school districts.  Why?  School districts are broken up by county.  And yes, there are some counties that have large urban schools and small rural schools and it works just fine.  The first step is to reduce the number of school districts and then look at changing athletic classes.  I would reduce the number of classes instead of making more classes.  There are too many “State Champions” now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny to read the comments.  No problem seeing who is from the Tulsa area and who is from the OKC area.  Also, comparing Oklahoma and Texas high schools is a bit ridiculous.  Look at the number of high schools in each state.  So, you cannot run high school athletics in Oklahoma like you can in Texas.  It just doesn’t work.   One of the real problems with Oklahoma athletics is the same problem that is with Oklahoma schools.  Too many school districts.  Florida is a much larger state and has much fewer school districts.  Why?  School districts are broken up by county.  And yes, there are some counties that have large urban schools and small rural schools and it works just fine.  The first step is to reduce the number of school districts and then look at changing athletic classes.  I would reduce the number of classes instead of making more classes.  There are too many “State Champions” now.</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140009</link>
		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am all over the place on a solution.  But Plan B sounds the best, although some would say not.  I know that I don&#039;t like have 7A and 6A set up as 16 teams each.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all over the place on a solution.  But Plan B sounds the best, although some would say not.  I know that I don&#8217;t like have 7A and 6A set up as 16 teams each.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Theiss</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/11/13/high-school-football-class-7a-an-awful-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-140005</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Theiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Don Johnson. Thank you....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Don Johnson. Thank you&#8230;.</p>
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