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	<title>Comments on: Big 12 football: Mack Brown&#8217;s bad timing on hook &#8216;em sign</title>
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		<title>By: Horns Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horns Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the whole thing is kind of silly, whether it&#039;s the horns down or the OU sucks chant.  I really wish we didn&#039;t do that, at least until we won some more games.

But, if we&#039;re going to get called for it then so should everybody else -- or we should not have the penalty any more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole thing is kind of silly, whether it&#8217;s the horns down or the OU sucks chant.  I really wish we didn&#8217;t do that, at least until we won some more games.</p>
<p>But, if we&#8217;re going to get called for it then so should everybody else &#8212; or we should not have the penalty any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Galileo, Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galileo, Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 01:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice post Mike.  Good stuff.  OSU fans might just be the most obsessive fan base of any school out there.  They&#039;re definitely up there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Mike.  Good stuff.  OSU fans might just be the most obsessive fan base of any school out there.  They&#8217;re definitely up there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cow Channel should NOT be given a SECOND game yearly for their network! Whoever has allowed this to happen should be fired immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cow Channel should NOT be given a SECOND game yearly for their network! Whoever has allowed this to happen should be fired immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chuck - an OSU fan calling OU obsessive about another team - now THAT&#039;S rich. I seem to recall seniors at OSU getting the OU-OSU football score on their class rings, because they had finally beat those &quot;gooners.&quot; You make and break your season by a win over OU, as infrequently as that is. If you guys were any more obsessive about OU, Stoops would have to take out a restraining order on the entire Ok State fan base.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck &#8211; an OSU fan calling OU obsessive about another team &#8211; now THAT&#8217;S rich. I seem to recall seniors at OSU getting the OU-OSU football score on their class rings, because they had finally beat those &#8220;gooners.&#8221; You make and break your season by a win over OU, as infrequently as that is. If you guys were any more obsessive about OU, Stoops would have to take out a restraining order on the entire Ok State fan base.</p>
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		<title>By: Orange Puker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orange Puker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ugh, I actually agree with Trams... to add, horns down is no more disrespectful than when playing the texass fight song and chanting OU sux everytime they manage to score against the Sooners.  Found it pretty humerous when they were still doing that this year, down by half a hundred.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ugh, I actually agree with Trams&#8230; to add, horns down is no more disrespectful than when playing the texass fight song and chanting OU sux everytime they manage to score against the Sooners.  Found it pretty humerous when they were still doing that this year, down by half a hundred.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 14:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article is right, Texas always wants more More MORE, and are the reason A&amp;M, Nebraska, Colorado, and Missouri left the conference.     

Take a look at the field in Austin.   Where EVERY other school paints the Big 12 logo in its normal form on their field, Roma numals XII with &quot;Big 12 Conference&quot; superimposed, the logo on the UT field has the Roman numerals XII with &quot;TEXAS&quot; on top.  To me, this is FAR more disrespectful to the entire conference than a silly hand gesture.    The extended middle finger is one thing, but a droopy set of horns is quite another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is right, Texas always wants more More MORE, and are the reason A&amp;M, Nebraska, Colorado, and Missouri left the conference.     </p>
<p>Take a look at the field in Austin.   Where EVERY other school paints the Big 12 logo in its normal form on their field, Roma numals XII with &#8220;Big 12 Conference&#8221; superimposed, the logo on the UT field has the Roman numerals XII with &#8220;TEXAS&#8221; on top.  To me, this is FAR more disrespectful to the entire conference than a silly hand gesture.    The extended middle finger is one thing, but a droopy set of horns is quite another.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 11:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[D-Lowe? Did I miss something? Did he do that? Because I&#039;ve been a lifelong Poke fan, (&amp; alum), and going to games for 39 yrs &amp; have never seen an oSu fan or player doing this. It&#039;s exclusively an OU thing by my observation. OU hates UT to the point of obsession. OSU can&#039;t relate. They&#039;re just another fow. I will say, as an Arkansas fan/alum as well, that Hogs &amp; fans share the same hate and downward horn sign with the Sooners, but hey, they played for 3+ decades in the SWC as the only non-Texas member.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D-Lowe? Did I miss something? Did he do that? Because I&#8217;ve been a lifelong Poke fan, (&amp; alum), and going to games for 39 yrs &amp; have never seen an oSu fan or player doing this. It&#8217;s exclusively an OU thing by my observation. OU hates UT to the point of obsession. OSU can&#8217;t relate. They&#8217;re just another fow. I will say, as an Arkansas fan/alum as well, that Hogs &amp; fans share the same hate and downward horn sign with the Sooners, but hey, they played for 3+ decades in the SWC as the only non-Texas member.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had trouble reading the remainder of this article  after I saw, &quot;Finally, threw(?) ESPN maneuvering,&quot; Isn&#039;t it &quot;through&quot;? That error jumped out at me more than some of the UT fans who stick the horns sign in your face, and don&#039;t expect some type of retaliation. I remember when OU played Florida in the NC game, Mr. Tim Tebow, of all players, did the gator chomp right in the face of an OU defensive player after Tebow had picked up a crucial 3rd down.  But wait......that&#039;s the SEC.....no Longhorn Network there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had trouble reading the remainder of this article  after I saw, &#8220;Finally, threw(?) ESPN maneuvering,&#8221; Isn&#8217;t it &#8220;through&#8221;? That error jumped out at me more than some of the UT fans who stick the horns sign in your face, and don&#8217;t expect some type of retaliation. I remember when OU played Florida in the NC game, Mr. Tim Tebow, of all players, did the gator chomp right in the face of an OU defensive player after Tebow had picked up a crucial 3rd down.  But wait&#8230;&#8230;that&#8217;s the SEC&#8230;..no Longhorn Network there.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 04:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The horns down sign is actually kind of self-demeaning. It implies that Texas is the Big 12&#039;s standard bearer. After all, you won&#039;t see any Texas fans making an inverted &quot;O U&quot; (as awkward as that might be).

As an FSU fan, I refuse to mock the gator chop for this reason. In the 1990&#039;s, I hated bumper stickers that said: &quot;Florida State University is THE University of Florida.&quot; It implies that UF is somehow the flagship institution--something I refuse to concede to them.

Develop your own signature gesture, or hold up your index finger. You don&#039;t have to mock another team&#039;s gesture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The horns down sign is actually kind of self-demeaning. It implies that Texas is the Big 12&#8242;s standard bearer. After all, you won&#8217;t see any Texas fans making an inverted &#8220;O U&#8221; (as awkward as that might be).</p>
<p>As an FSU fan, I refuse to mock the gator chop for this reason. In the 1990&#8242;s, I hated bumper stickers that said: &#8220;Florida State University is THE University of Florida.&#8221; It implies that UF is somehow the flagship institution&#8211;something I refuse to concede to them.</p>
<p>Develop your own signature gesture, or hold up your index finger. You don&#8217;t have to mock another team&#8217;s gesture.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 03:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He was probably responding to the 15 yd unsportsmanlike like penalty given Mike Davis after putting &quot;guns down&quot; in the holsters in Lubbock after long TD catch.  Same thing as &quot;horns down&quot;.  Inconsistently called.  Both unsporting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was probably responding to the 15 yd unsportsmanlike like penalty given Mike Davis after putting &#8220;guns down&#8221; in the holsters in Lubbock after long TD catch.  Same thing as &#8220;horns down&#8221;.  Inconsistently called.  Both unsporting.</p>
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