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	<title>Comments on: Oklahoma City Thunder: Some good news on Serge Ibaka?</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from The Oklahoman Sports Columnist Berry Tramel &#124; NewsOK.com</description>
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		<title>By: Oklahoma City Thunder News: Oklahoma City Thunder Reportedly Check Out Free Agent Guard Lester Hudson...</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/07/19/oklahoma-city-thunder-some-good-news-on-serge-ibaka/comment-page-1/#comment-129164</link>
		<dc:creator>Oklahoma City Thunder News: Oklahoma City Thunder Reportedly Check Out Free Agent Guard Lester Hudson...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Oklahoma City Thunder: Some good news on Serge Ibaka? After a discouraging July that made the Thunder feel like signing both James Harden and Serge Ibaka to contract extensions, some good news arrived Wednesday. Denver signed JaVale McGee to a four-year, $ 44-million contract. That is good news because &#8230; Read more on NewsOK.com (blog) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oklahoma City Thunder: Some good news on Serge Ibaka? After a discouraging July that made the Thunder feel like signing both James Harden and Serge Ibaka to contract extensions, some good news arrived Wednesday. Denver signed JaVale McGee to a four-year, $ 44-million contract. That is good news because &#8230; Read more on NewsOK.com (blog) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shaudry saju</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaudry saju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[idk, lin and harden in houston sounds good to me. If serge went also to houston, the rockets would have a new big three.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>idk, lin and harden in houston sounds good to me. If serge went also to houston, the rockets would have a new big three.</p>
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		<title>By: Trenton</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/07/19/oklahoma-city-thunder-some-good-news-on-serge-ibaka/comment-page-1/#comment-128851</link>
		<dc:creator>Trenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Lynn, they aren&#039;t paying Ibaka to speak different languages. They are paying him to swat anything that comes his way]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lynn, they aren&#8217;t paying Ibaka to speak different languages. They are paying him to swat anything that comes his way</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012/07/19/oklahoma-city-thunder-some-good-news-on-serge-ibaka/comment-page-1/#comment-128847</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comparing a dumb guy that is lost on the court playing for a weak team with limited stars with a powerful guy that sacrifices numbers to do the dirty job in a Finals team with 2 all stars???? They are very far of being similar. Non valid article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing a dumb guy that is lost on the court playing for a weak team with limited stars with a powerful guy that sacrifices numbers to do the dirty job in a Finals team with 2 all stars???? They are very far of being similar. Non valid article.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Lin deal was crazy, and it was more for fans buying tickets than a good fit for the team. He is good, no doubt, but not that good, not yet. He&#039;s yet to show he can go a whole season and be a consistent contributor. So we&#039;ll see. Yes, there are probably teams who will offer the max to Harden and/or Ibaka, but as yet, they are not max pay players. Durant is. Westbrook is. Harden and Ibaka are on the verge of being. I&#039;d like to keep them both, but if I had to take one or the other, I&#039;d have to take Ibaka and bid farewell to Harden. Wouldn&#039;t want to, but if he wanted to go and the offer was so great, I wouldn&#039;t stop him. I like Harden, but I don&#039;t think he helped us any in the Heat series. He froze up. He was inconsistent. But he&#039;s still young and new to these big games. If he steps up his game, he will be a max deal guy. But not yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lin deal was crazy, and it was more for fans buying tickets than a good fit for the team. He is good, no doubt, but not that good, not yet. He&#8217;s yet to show he can go a whole season and be a consistent contributor. So we&#8217;ll see. Yes, there are probably teams who will offer the max to Harden and/or Ibaka, but as yet, they are not max pay players. Durant is. Westbrook is. Harden and Ibaka are on the verge of being. I&#8217;d like to keep them both, but if I had to take one or the other, I&#8217;d have to take Ibaka and bid farewell to Harden. Wouldn&#8217;t want to, but if he wanted to go and the offer was so great, I wouldn&#8217;t stop him. I like Harden, but I don&#8217;t think he helped us any in the Heat series. He froze up. He was inconsistent. But he&#8217;s still young and new to these big games. If he steps up his game, he will be a max deal guy. But not yet.</p>
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		<title>By: JT's Hoops Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT's Hoops Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blame the houston rockets and LA Clippers for this ridicoulus nonsense paying playing superstar type cash to unproven players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame the houston rockets and LA Clippers for this ridicoulus nonsense paying playing superstar type cash to unproven players.</p>
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		<title>By: SPK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love Serge&#039;s game, but he&#039;s not a max player. His value is about 10-12.5 million a year, and the Thunder probably will sign him in that range for four years. Harden IMO is also not a max contract player either, but if he hits the open market, another team seems likely to overpay and make him one. I have a great deal of faith in Presti and the organization getting them both signed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love Serge&#8217;s game, but he&#8217;s not a max player. His value is about 10-12.5 million a year, and the Thunder probably will sign him in that range for four years. Harden IMO is also not a max contract player either, but if he hits the open market, another team seems likely to overpay and make him one. I have a great deal of faith in Presti and the organization getting them both signed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Lynn said above, don&#039;t ever underestimate the character questions. In basketball where contracts are guaranteed and salaries are capped no one wants to get hamstrung by paying near top dollar for someone who may go off the deep end. 

The most interesting thing about the McGee deal is that he did not sign an offer sheet with another team. So he either took a home town discount or no one else was truly interested in paying what a player of his ilk would usually command. Neither of which is a good sign for the Thunder. Deandre Jordan who is not nearly the offensive player and has questionable desire to improve got a very similar deal to McGee&#039;s last year and had several suitors besides Golden State and the Clippers. IF HE WANTS TO, Serge  will get at least 20% to 30% more than both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Lynn said above, don&#8217;t ever underestimate the character questions. In basketball where contracts are guaranteed and salaries are capped no one wants to get hamstrung by paying near top dollar for someone who may go off the deep end. </p>
<p>The most interesting thing about the McGee deal is that he did not sign an offer sheet with another team. So he either took a home town discount or no one else was truly interested in paying what a player of his ilk would usually command. Neither of which is a good sign for the Thunder. Deandre Jordan who is not nearly the offensive player and has questionable desire to improve got a very similar deal to McGee&#8217;s last year and had several suitors besides Golden State and the Clippers. IF HE WANTS TO, Serge  will get at least 20% to 30% more than both.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Ibaka is not nearly as flaky as McGee, and Ibaka is probably twice as smart as McGee.

Lets see, Ibaka speaks five languages and McGee is seen as the NBA dunderhead.

I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s much comparison there , or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Ibaka is not nearly as flaky as McGee, and Ibaka is probably twice as smart as McGee.</p>
<p>Lets see, Ibaka speaks five languages and McGee is seen as the NBA dunderhead.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s much comparison there , or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one is going to offer ibaka a max deal. Please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is going to offer ibaka a max deal. Please.</p>
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