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	<title>Comments on: Big 12: How about a Big East alliance?</title>
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		<title>By: Big East-Big &#34;12&#34; Championship Game? &#124; Cincy Hub</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2010/06/21/big-12-how-about-a-big-east-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-15127</link>
		<dc:creator>Big East-Big &#34;12&#34; Championship Game? &#124; Cincy Hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a guy who I once ripped for the stupidest column I ever read (he wanted to abolish the NFL Draft): the Big East and Big 12 champs should play each other in a &quot;championship&quot; game. These two are now pretty far behind the SEC, PAC-12, and Big Ten-Twelve and a venue like this [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a guy who I once ripped for the stupidest column I ever read (he wanted to abolish the NFL Draft): the Big East and Big 12 champs should play each other in a &quot;championship&quot; game. These two are now pretty far behind the SEC, PAC-12, and Big Ten-Twelve and a venue like this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Big East-Big &#34;12&#34; Championship Game? - Cincinnati Sports Forums - Reds, Bengals, UC Bearcats and Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big East-Big &#34;12&#34; Championship Game? - Cincinnati Sports Forums - Reds, Bengals, UC Bearcats and Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a guy who I once ripped for the stupidest column I ever read (he wanted to abolish the NFL Draft): the Big East and Big 12 champs should play in a &quot;championship&quot; game. These two are now pretty far behind the SEC, PAC-12, and Big Ten-Twelve and a venue like this [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a guy who I once ripped for the stupidest column I ever read (he wanted to abolish the NFL Draft): the Big East and Big 12 champs should play in a &quot;championship&quot; game. These two are now pretty far behind the SEC, PAC-12, and Big Ten-Twelve and a venue like this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2010/06/21/big-12-how-about-a-big-east-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-14440</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Big East is playing the Big 12 it&#039;s called a BCS game.
Both conferences have automatic bids...so why would either one want a championship game against each other?

Stupid idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Big East is playing the Big 12 it&#8217;s called a BCS game.<br />
Both conferences have automatic bids&#8230;so why would either one want a championship game against each other?</p>
<p>Stupid idea.</p>
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		<title>By: SportsBIz</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2010/06/21/big-12-how-about-a-big-east-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-14427</link>
		<dc:creator>SportsBIz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting idea.  Doesn&#039;t have to affect the BCS bowls at all.  The conference champions keep their bids and the alliance bowl winner will have its shot at the BCS Championship Game.  It&#039;s the purest example of what all conference championship are played for: cash.  To that end, moving it back and forth every season instead of 2-1 may make economic sense. The Big 12 has the JerryBowl and the Big East has Meadowlands, Yankee Stadium and FedEx Field.  While none of those seat 100,000, they are all in huge media and influencer markets which would offset the seat loss.  Who wouldn&#039;t want to see this game played in NYC/NJ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea.  Doesn&#8217;t have to affect the BCS bowls at all.  The conference champions keep their bids and the alliance bowl winner will have its shot at the BCS Championship Game.  It&#8217;s the purest example of what all conference championship are played for: cash.  To that end, moving it back and forth every season instead of 2-1 may make economic sense. The Big 12 has the JerryBowl and the Big East has Meadowlands, Yankee Stadium and FedEx Field.  While none of those seat 100,000, they are all in huge media and influencer markets which would offset the seat loss.  Who wouldn&#8217;t want to see this game played in NYC/NJ?</p>
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		<title>By: Expansion....Now What???</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expansion....Now What???</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 01:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Big 12: How about a Big East alliance? &#124; Berry Tramel&#039;s Blog      &quot;War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: BigBearcatBill</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBearcatBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Pac-16, Big-16, SEC-16, AC-16 evolve out of expansion, we potential “outsiders&quot; will need a plan to get some BCS attention and the idea of having BE, MWC, B12, inter-conf championship games or mergers may be the only way to get it. Another option is to get those politicians going again and look for legal or legislative action because there is no fair playoff system now and we know if expansion continues there would be less and less chance for a championship (or even a top 10 ranking) to ever be possible for whoever is non-BCS.  Expansion mania without a playoff system/tournament could eventually lead to the equivalent of a college football &quot;caste system&quot; where your program cannot move into the &quot;upper class&quot; of football society by an intentional structural design. Maybe we are looking at the eventual development of a three group Div I football nation- FBS/BCS (1A), Mid-major Purgatory with possible dropping down to FCS (1AA) or elimnating football any time, and FCS (1AA) as it is now. This situation basically was real for some programs and it can happen again- We have been there, the Bearcats almost dropped football twice since 1980 because of being in Mid-major Purgatory and an independent  during most of that time. OK, now you know what could happen to all of those in that group... NOW THINK ABOUT HOW WRONG THAT IS - BEARCATS HAD A SHOT AT NATIONAL CHAMPION LAST YEAR UP UNTIL NEBRASKA MISSED THE LAST SECOND EASY FIELD GOAL VS TEXAS DURING LAST CONFERENCE PLAYOFF GAME!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Pac-16, Big-16, SEC-16, AC-16 evolve out of expansion, we potential “outsiders&#8221; will need a plan to get some BCS attention and the idea of having BE, MWC, B12, inter-conf championship games or mergers may be the only way to get it. Another option is to get those politicians going again and look for legal or legislative action because there is no fair playoff system now and we know if expansion continues there would be less and less chance for a championship (or even a top 10 ranking) to ever be possible for whoever is non-BCS.  Expansion mania without a playoff system/tournament could eventually lead to the equivalent of a college football &#8220;caste system&#8221; where your program cannot move into the &#8220;upper class&#8221; of football society by an intentional structural design. Maybe we are looking at the eventual development of a three group Div I football nation- FBS/BCS (1A), Mid-major Purgatory with possible dropping down to FCS (1AA) or elimnating football any time, and FCS (1AA) as it is now. This situation basically was real for some programs and it can happen again- We have been there, the Bearcats almost dropped football twice since 1980 because of being in Mid-major Purgatory and an independent  during most of that time. OK, now you know what could happen to all of those in that group&#8230; NOW THINK ABOUT HOW WRONG THAT IS &#8211; BEARCATS HAD A SHOT AT NATIONAL CHAMPION LAST YEAR UP UNTIL NEBRASKA MISSED THE LAST SECOND EASY FIELD GOAL VS TEXAS DURING LAST CONFERENCE PLAYOFF GAME!</p>
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		<title>By: OrangeFan</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2010/06/21/big-12-how-about-a-big-east-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-14407</link>
		<dc:creator>OrangeFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting idea - but why would Texas want to play a game like this (and possibly loose and miss out on a national championship BCS game)?

Doesn&#039;t UT run that conference of yours?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea &#8211; but why would Texas want to play a game like this (and possibly loose and miss out on a national championship BCS game)?</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t UT run that conference of yours?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not that original of an idea...a Big 10/Big East title game idea has been floating around for years.  This just switches the players as the Big 10 is now has 12 and the Big 12 has 10.  

While not original, it&#039;s still a great idea.  The winners from each conference still get auto-bids to the BCS but this will almost certainitly be a good step towards a playoff.  I think the NCAA might be willing to buy it, IF the Big 12 and Big East agree to to expand anymore and all teams agree to not leave.  If conference realignment can stop here, it&#039;s a great idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that original of an idea&#8230;a Big 10/Big East title game idea has been floating around for years.  This just switches the players as the Big 10 is now has 12 and the Big 12 has 10.  </p>
<p>While not original, it&#8217;s still a great idea.  The winners from each conference still get auto-bids to the BCS but this will almost certainitly be a good step towards a playoff.  I think the NCAA might be willing to buy it, IF the Big 12 and Big East agree to to expand anymore and all teams agree to not leave.  If conference realignment can stop here, it&#8217;s a great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Wessel Prune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wessel Prune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suggest the diehards get over their dream of luring Arkansas into the remnants of the Big XII. We wish you well but Arkansas is where it belongs, in the SEC. Arkansas looks to its sister states in the South, in terms of history, culture and politics. Ole Miss and LSU are two of the oldest Razorback rivalries (with growing rivalries with &#039;Bama, Auburn and Mississippi State), and the Hogs aren&#039;t likely to trade those for the likes of Iowa State and Kansas. The powers that be at Fudville have tried to make this clear but some people have a hard time understanding English.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest the diehards get over their dream of luring Arkansas into the remnants of the Big XII. We wish you well but Arkansas is where it belongs, in the SEC. Arkansas looks to its sister states in the South, in terms of history, culture and politics. Ole Miss and LSU are two of the oldest Razorback rivalries (with growing rivalries with &#8216;Bama, Auburn and Mississippi State), and the Hogs aren&#8217;t likely to trade those for the likes of Iowa State and Kansas. The powers that be at Fudville have tried to make this clear but some people have a hard time understanding English.</p>
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		<title>By: cardshouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>cardshouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not gonna happen. the  Big East will expand to 12 football schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not gonna happen. the  Big East will expand to 12 football schools.</p>
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