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	<title>Comments on: Sooner football needs bowl practices</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from The Oklahoman Sports Columnist Berry Tramel &#124; NewsOK.com</description>
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		<title>By: gwsat</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10709</link>
		<dc:creator>gwsat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The very idea that OU should not go to a bowl game is, not to put too fine a point on it, misguided.  Berry Trammel has accurately made the point that the extra practices allowed by playing in a bowl game are the equivalent of a full spring practice and an invaluable tool to help develop young talent.  Think about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very idea that OU should not go to a bowl game is, not to put too fine a point on it, misguided.  Berry Trammel has accurately made the point that the extra practices allowed by playing in a bowl game are the equivalent of a full spring practice and an invaluable tool to help develop young talent.  Think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansen</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10701</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Steve Tyler - you do need us and in the worst way.  If it weren&#039;t for we who are disatifed with bob stoops steadily declining performance - we still have John Black - remember him and gibbs and snelly.

Bob started out hungry and did fine - in a couple of years after the National Championship - he started saying things like - &quot;I don&#039;t mind winning a close game once in awhlle&quot; - that morphed into - &quot;I don&#039;t mind losing now and then&quot; and now we are there.  Sure we had a lot of injuries - if last year when bob was pushing Sam for the heisman - instead he had been playing backup quarterbacks to give them practice - we probably wouldn&#039;t be in this mess.

And he still isn&#039;t playing Drew or John - there&#039;s nothing really wrong with Jones but sometimes another quartback can spark a team or confuse the defense.  Other things bob does wrong which shows a lack of offensive understanding - is downing the ball when we still have 1 or 2 minutes n the half.  Every last second should be used to try to score - colorado beat michigan on a last minute hail mary.  And kevin wilson is stuck in the big12 3 yards and a cloud of dust mentality - game before last the announcers said that we didn&#039;t even attempt a long pass down field.  Well that&#039;s what opens up running plays and the work then - and this last game - a long pass to miller was caught and for some reason called back - it the only long pass of the game.  After the nebraska game it was said - &quot;we knew exactly who OU was going to do because they do it all the time.&quot;  Laterals to Murray and offtackle to Brown (those would work if we had a decent passing threat.)  We can&#039;t because bob stoops won&#039;t play his backup qb&#039;s and get them ready.  Bob is a vastly overpaid coach who has lost his hunger.

It&#039;s very doubtful he can ever regain it - he has too much money and comfort now and too much security - thanks to those who are blindly loyal.  That is hurting the Sooners more than you know - just John Blake did.

Even if we beat OSU - it will only prolong the tolerance of a coach that is burned out - at least for OU.  I&#039;m a natural born okie and staunch sooner fan but that doesn&#039;t mean I can&#039;t see what&#039;s happening.  I post the same views on my SOONER_WATCH@yahoogroups.com list - where everyone gets to say what they think about the Sooners but not to flame anyone with a different opinion.  I&#039;m with Johnny - why waste time watching another bowl loss or even a win that won&#039;t do us any good.  Only discontent will change stoops direction and it sure needs changing.

John Hansen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Steve Tyler &#8211; you do need us and in the worst way.  If it weren&#8217;t for we who are disatifed with bob stoops steadily declining performance &#8211; we still have John Black &#8211; remember him and gibbs and snelly.</p>
<p>Bob started out hungry and did fine &#8211; in a couple of years after the National Championship &#8211; he started saying things like &#8211; &#8220;I don&#8217;t mind winning a close game once in awhlle&#8221; &#8211; that morphed into &#8211; &#8220;I don&#8217;t mind losing now and then&#8221; and now we are there.  Sure we had a lot of injuries &#8211; if last year when bob was pushing Sam for the heisman &#8211; instead he had been playing backup quarterbacks to give them practice &#8211; we probably wouldn&#8217;t be in this mess.</p>
<p>And he still isn&#8217;t playing Drew or John &#8211; there&#8217;s nothing really wrong with Jones but sometimes another quartback can spark a team or confuse the defense.  Other things bob does wrong which shows a lack of offensive understanding &#8211; is downing the ball when we still have 1 or 2 minutes n the half.  Every last second should be used to try to score &#8211; colorado beat michigan on a last minute hail mary.  And kevin wilson is stuck in the big12 3 yards and a cloud of dust mentality &#8211; game before last the announcers said that we didn&#8217;t even attempt a long pass down field.  Well that&#8217;s what opens up running plays and the work then &#8211; and this last game &#8211; a long pass to miller was caught and for some reason called back &#8211; it the only long pass of the game.  After the nebraska game it was said &#8211; &#8220;we knew exactly who OU was going to do because they do it all the time.&#8221;  Laterals to Murray and offtackle to Brown (those would work if we had a decent passing threat.)  We can&#8217;t because bob stoops won&#8217;t play his backup qb&#8217;s and get them ready.  Bob is a vastly overpaid coach who has lost his hunger.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very doubtful he can ever regain it &#8211; he has too much money and comfort now and too much security &#8211; thanks to those who are blindly loyal.  That is hurting the Sooners more than you know &#8211; just John Blake did.</p>
<p>Even if we beat OSU &#8211; it will only prolong the tolerance of a coach that is burned out &#8211; at least for OU.  I&#8217;m a natural born okie and staunch sooner fan but that doesn&#8217;t mean I can&#8217;t see what&#8217;s happening.  I post the same views on my <a href="mailto:SOONER_WATCH@yahoogroups.com">SOONER_WATCH@yahoogroups.com</a> list &#8211; where everyone gets to say what they think about the Sooners but not to flame anyone with a different opinion.  I&#8217;m with Johnny &#8211; why waste time watching another bowl loss or even a win that won&#8217;t do us any good.  Only discontent will change stoops direction and it sure needs changing.</p>
<p>John Hansen</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10698</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW! You &quot;fair weather fans&quot; take a freaking hike. You are embarrasing! 2 bad seasons in 10 years, and you are all jumping off the wagon. What a joke. Go away, and let the real sooner fans support their team no matter what bowl they play in. We are still the best football program in the state, and we will be for a while. I hope you fair weather fans stay away next year when we are back to winning the conference and competing for a national championship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! You &#8220;fair weather fans&#8221; take a freaking hike. You are embarrasing! 2 bad seasons in 10 years, and you are all jumping off the wagon. What a joke. Go away, and let the real sooner fans support their team no matter what bowl they play in. We are still the best football program in the state, and we will be for a while. I hope you fair weather fans stay away next year when we are back to winning the conference and competing for a national championship.</p>
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		<title>By: j. adams</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10696</link>
		<dc:creator>j. adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They need to create a new Bowl for teams like OU, called the Bottom Feeders
Bowl.  Telecast it on the Reality Channel. Thats something Stoops and staff
could be first in. Whats the difference in OU football and a catfish? One
is a bottom feeder and the other is a catfish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to create a new Bowl for teams like OU, called the Bottom Feeders<br />
Bowl.  Telecast it on the Reality Channel. Thats something Stoops and staff<br />
could be first in. Whats the difference in OU football and a catfish? One<br />
is a bottom feeder and the other is a catfish.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10693</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A whole season of practice has done little for this team or its coaches.  I say start a fresh next with new thinking and some significant changes. Flush the bowl!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A whole season of practice has done little for this team or its coaches.  I say start a fresh next with new thinking and some significant changes. Flush the bowl!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Everitt</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10692</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Everitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe all of those who think Stoops is a bum.  Seriously? 6 Big XII Titles since 2000 (Texas only has 1 by the way), 1 National Title and Four BCS Championship game appearances in the last 10 years - what is it about those stats that bother you?  I understand the dissapointment of losing 3 of the 4 BCS Championship games, but come one, how many in the country would give up what they have for that? Get over it people - let&#039;s get on to the business of beating Okie State and playing in a Bowl game. That is what college football is all about - not pouting and temper tantrums.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe all of those who think Stoops is a bum.  Seriously? 6 Big XII Titles since 2000 (Texas only has 1 by the way), 1 National Title and Four BCS Championship game appearances in the last 10 years &#8211; what is it about those stats that bother you?  I understand the dissapointment of losing 3 of the 4 BCS Championship games, but come one, how many in the country would give up what they have for that? Get over it people &#8211; let&#8217;s get on to the business of beating Okie State and playing in a Bowl game. That is what college football is all about &#8211; not pouting and temper tantrums.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10691</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe they can go to the Meineke Car Care Bowl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they can go to the Meineke Car Care Bowl.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradstreet</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10687</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradstreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for providing those instant classics that ESPNU and Fox Sports broadcasts during the dog days of summer.  Unfortunately OU does not fare well.

Looking forward to seeing OU on the ESPN Thursday night game of the week.  GO POONERS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for providing those instant classics that ESPNU and Fox Sports broadcasts during the dog days of summer.  Unfortunately OU does not fare well.</p>
<p>Looking forward to seeing OU on the ESPN Thursday night game of the week.  GO POONERS</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10682</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[please, please, please Bob, don&#039;t embarrass the Sooner base any more.  Are you tired of getting your butt beat?,  I know  I am tired of watching it.  Getting beat when you play well is one thing, just never showing up at all.  It appears we have hit the bottom of the barrel, is Bob too busy looking elsewhere?  Someone please explain to me how the team just doesnt show up for the game.  This is very similar to Gary Gibbs last run, wasnt it the embarrassment in the Sun Bowl that finally did him in? Please, shoot this horse in the head now and dont allow it to suffer any longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please, please, please Bob, don&#8217;t embarrass the Sooner base any more.  Are you tired of getting your butt beat?,  I know  I am tired of watching it.  Getting beat when you play well is one thing, just never showing up at all.  It appears we have hit the bottom of the barrel, is Bob too busy looking elsewhere?  Someone please explain to me how the team just doesnt show up for the game.  This is very similar to Gary Gibbs last run, wasnt it the embarrassment in the Sun Bowl that finally did him in? Please, shoot this horse in the head now and dont allow it to suffer any longer.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/11/23/sooner-football-needs-bowl-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-10678</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Were going to beat OSU. So, get ready to bowl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were going to beat OSU. So, get ready to bowl.</p>
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