College Football Week 9: An RV Gridiron Tour
I met Carl Pangia in a barbeque restaurant in Memphis last March during the NCAA basketball tournament. We got to talking, and I discovered he’s a relative of Billy Parese, who played baseball at OU in the 1960s and whose son was a pitching star at Owasso High School several years ago. Carl also is a big Jack Mildren fan.
Anyway, Carl is a college football nut who emails me from time to time. He’s spending this season in an RV, traveling from venue to venue, seeing big games and checking out campuses and traditions. I asked him to share some of his experiences.
Sept. 6: Colorado State at Colorado
CU had the prettiest and most spoiled coeds. Beautiful campus but very difficult to tailgate with a large RV, so I drove the Jeep. Beer was all around. Had good BBQ outside the stadium. Folsom Field was very impressive. A classic. Loved Ralphie. Best mascot and liked their tradition of band playing inside and coming out to field.
Coach and QB son must go! CU not well-prepared for game. Fans were really up throughout even while losing. Disappointed that they did not have a Hall of Fame or exhibits for all the great players. Also, they had the best game program.
Sept. 26: Iowa at Penn State
Got worried about outcome while driving through Kansas listening to Iowa sports talk that if Iowa won, it would not be an upset. They were better in special teams and line play. As week went on, got even more worried. Even PSU’ers weren’t as certain as week went on. Penn State does not have dominant o-line or receivers.
Nittany Stadium was awesome! The largest now that the Big House is under-going renovation. One can see the stadium lit up from the I-80 over 20 miles away. Over-powering, like a city in it self. I must be honest. This is probably my all-time favorite football school. I did like Army ball in the ’40s and ’50s with those Heisman winners being from the East. But Penn State was our team since Joe Pa took over in 1966, when I graduated from high school.
Penn State has the best hall of fame and museum (however, they did charge $5admission). Went to classic icons for dinner. Penn Stater Inn and Nittany Lion Inn. Both what you would expect. Rich with tradition. Will actually attend three 3 Penn State games this year. At Michigan and home on Nov. 7 vs. Ohio State.
Penn State was most orchestrated school by far. The days were all planned out and communicated well, except for that damn rain. Day of game, poured all day. A miserable, cold, wet game played at 8 p.m.
Saw the ESPN GameDay crew and talked with one of my faves, Franco Harris. He is huge. Never thought he was that big even playing for the Steelers. A real gentleman who sat through the rain signing autographs for all in line. Had an extra ticket that I could not sell and offered it to him but he had box (dry!) seats. He was no fool.
Friday night, attended pep rally at the old gym. Joe Pa led captains and the rest of the team into the gym. Joe Pa gave great speech. Then on Saturday the day was totally planned - bands, parties and even their Bryce-Jordan Center Fieldhouse. Very impressive, tied with Texas Tech’s United Spirit Arena. Joe Pa did visit Paternoville on Friday, an encampment of students who were there from Monday for best seats.
Everything again orchestrated to the minute. Blue Band marching to stadium, Team arriving by buses. Four exactly at 6:20 p.m.
Took forever to get into upper decks of stadium; 110,000 fans. They stood all of first quarter and pretty much all game. Everyone totally into it and their team. I was concerned about Iowa. I went to Michigan State and know Big 10 ball. (Kirk) Ferentz is a great coach and Western Pennsylvania product who attended my undergrad school, UConn, as a linebacker because Joe would not recruit a “slow, small white kid,” per Ferentz’s bio. My opinion is that Ferentz should replace Joe Pa when it is time.
I bought a BBQ sandwich (not as good as CU) outside stadium and they would not even let me bring it in. I had to sneak game program under my rain gear, and they still stopped me.
The stadium is just overwhelming. Massive steel, concrete structure all aglow like a spaceship in the rolling hills. A city all onto itself.
Stopped by the creamery. All the land-grant schools— even UConn and Michigan State - have ag programs and best ice cream in the world. I had the Peachy Paterno and yes it was outstanding. Very rich and creamy and huge strawberries everyday I was there.
Iowa slow and steady shut them down. Safety, blocked punt TD recovery and field goal. Game over. No big stars for Hawkeyes, just the QB who made no errors. Iowa defense outplayed and outscored Penn State’s offense. A miserable game. My team, first time in person and they got clabbered badly.
To end the fiasco, I got into a fender -bender in the rain leaving the stadium and waited 21/2 hours for police to take report. Got to Connecticut to see my dad at 6 a.m. after getting lost in the rolling hills of western Pennsylvania, just like the Lions.
One thing I must add. Joe Pa said he does not understand this phenomena of 60-year-old men walking around with WHITEOUT t-shirts on. I resented that because I am 60 years old exactly and am not old. And look pretty damn good. He did look great in person, a little limp in his walk but had more black hair then I did.
Oct. 3: USC at California
Worst stadium by far. A long and trying walk for all from the BART station. Best thing about attending Berkeley game? Arriving by BART. No toilets, just port-a-potties! No box or penthouses. Only thing was it did not pour rain like it did two years ago, but outcome was the same.
USC overwhelmed the Bears in a slaughter. Cal QB as bad as CU QB. Jahvid Best totally contained at line of scrimmage. There goes his Heisman hopes after two consecutive bad games with Oregon and USC. No passing attack, no running game.
Well, with third down 20 seconds before halftime, Cal on USC goal line, Jeff Tedford throws in towel. He goes for the field goal. Moans all over. He gave up and did not want to be shut out! He is too conservative a coach and has not developed a QB at CAL for years. Nate Longshore from two years ago a bust. I predict he is gone after this season.
Cal has had great athletes, going back to Chuck Muncie and my days with great quarterbacks Joe Kapp and Joe Roth, Aaron Rodgers, etc. They deserve much better. An expansion is on for the stadium, so better days will come.
Did not have time to see any memorabilia or training facilities. Don’t know about Hall of Fame, museums, etc. Do know it is the prize university in the West. Gorgeous campus. Just a classic. And I went to UDub (Washington) for grad school, which is more beautiful because of setting on Lake Washington.
Believe it or not, UConn in Storrs is beautiful and right up there with the others.
USC had best looking cheerleaders bar none! And Traveler is superb until I saw the Red Raider horse.
USC’s frosh QB is great, throws it like a pro. He really is that good. Unbelievable passing ability.
Cal gals were very pretty and eclectic. There was no food to be had at Cal. Fans were very knowledgeable and we sat pretty much all game, maybe because Cal showed nothing on offense. Some very loyal fans and many older, very wealthy alumni from Bay area in attendance.
Oct. 8: Nebraska at Missouri
Missouri has great stadium, sports complex, facilities, museums, Hall of Fame and coach in Gary Pinkel. He has done wonders for team, facilities and university.
I really like Mizzou. They have great tradition with Johnny Roland, Roger Wherli and Dan Devine, who later became Notre Dame coach. Great basketball arena and coach (Norm) Stewart and memorabilia for all sports.
The only problem is that all my favorite teams over 45-50 years are losing their games! And Mizzou was no different. Why the heck does it have to rain on me so much!
The only problem here is, you go to one game and it is an all day affair and you miss 20 others for the weekend.
Oct. 10: Penn State at Michigan
Big House awesome. Most tradition and tailgating so far. Very rich and many alumni means more money. Expanding stadium to over 110,000. Neither team that good! Daryl Clark got too big and bulky and can’t move. Thought this was the year for Penn State and OU. I was wrong!
Oct. 17: Oklahoma-Texas:
Colt McCoy was not that good. He made game-saving tackle of his own interception. Neither team looked that good - very bad officiating. Should have called roughing on UT on body shoulder slam on Bradford, sending him out of game! Also no face-mask call on Jordan Shipley punt return. All calls against OU. Pro UT refs.
OU big disappointment with or without Sam. Could not tell difference between him and backup. OU should have scored TD, not field goal, on first possession. Stoops got outcoached last three-fourths of game. UT not that impressive.
OU still almost wins game if DB (Brian Jackson) returns interception for TD. Spread was 3.5, a suckers bet on UT.
Just too much going on with State Fair,etc.
Will not go to Kansas-Texas in Austin because the UT fans are very obnoxious. Did not like some of the booing at game.
Oct. 31: Kansas State at Oklahoma
Hey, they got a street named after you in Norman! (Berry Road). I saw everybody at OU, including Barry Switzer and his custom home (from outside). Saw Bob Stoops, Sherri Coale and the girls basketball team and got autographs. Plus talked with president David Boren and media relations pics with Billy (I assume Sims).
I stayed at OU RV village and had great meal at Legends. Had the salmon and horseradish; excellent and plentiful. Had dinner with guy and girlfriend from Norman who now lives in OKC, and he knows Steve Owens very well and says he is the nicest guy, signs autographs plus talks withh all fans. Had great pizza at NY Pizza and Toto’s Italian place. Was treated royally by OU RV village. First night, Thursday, only a few of us and they let me have full-hookups. Walked through Lloyd Noble and they let me go through and see everything even with my little dog, all 11 pounds of her. They were great to me.
Then on Friday finally made Barry Switzer Center and saw Billy’s (Parese) name as letterman 1964 and of course Jack with Greg Pruitt and all their accolades. Many discrepancies, like Jack is not pictured as a graduate in OU 1972 yearbook. You know why not? It does not mention coaches between Bud ‘63 until Barry ‘1973. No mention of Chuck Fairbanks. Why not?
Liked everything about OU except still not as orchestrated as Penn State and probably Michigan. They have many traditions and alumni. OU facility, best multi-media scoreboard, head and shoulders over all others because always showing other game scores and two very large screens. Also, Switzer Center is free and Joe Pa’s cost a donation of 5 bucks. Barry’s was strictly football, but Penn State is all-sports museum. Overall, OUhands down best Hall of Fame and sports history, because five Heismans, plus statues in park plus outside letterman and all-American plaques. Best of anyone’s. And the more I think about it, best football tradition and results. Although Michigan and Penn State have best festivities and overall best stadiums.
Boy was I wrong on OU. Nowhere near as good as I thought nor. Too many holes to fill in skilled positions. No receivers or good o-line. Can Stoops recruit? I am doubting it. What do you think besides injuries to tight end and Sam B.? I don’t think that would have been enough. What is wrong with OU football? His coaching staff? Him?
Bill Snyder has done a great job - Big 12 coach of year - but they sucked vs. Texas Tech. Really surprised how well Kansas State is doing and how bad Missouri is doing.
I checked out OSU on the way out Sunday. Ready for a whole week there soon. Well, I’m at State College ready for Ohio State. So far the Big 10 has richer traditions and much more rich alumni and more of them than Big 12. However, Big 12 football is stronger and should be in BCS game unless UT screws up.
TEN BIGGEST WINNERS OF THE WEEK
10. Case Keenum: Houston’s loss at UTEP knocked the Cougars out of BCS contention and Keenum out of Heisman Trophy talk. But maybe Keenum needs to go back in. In a 50-43 victory over Southern Miss, Keenum completed 44 of 54 passes for 559 yards and five touchdowns.
9. Jerrel Jernigan, Troy: The smallish junior had been solid but not spectacular this season; no 100-yard games, 27 catches all season. But in a 42-21 victory over Louisiana-Monroe, Jernigan had 13 catches for 203 yards, including a 41-yard TD catch, as the Trojans virtually sealed the Sun Belt championship and New Orleans Bowl bid.
8. Florida State defense: The Seminoles beat North Carolina State, but needed a late touchdown to win 45-42 and allowed 538 total yards. So why the joy? Mickey Andrews announced he would retire as defensive coordinator after this season, in which Florida State has allowed 38 to Miami, 28 to BYU and Boston College, 49 to Georgia Tech and 20 to North Carolina.
7, Jerrod Johnson: The Texas A&M junior laid claim to be the Big 12’s best quarterback in 2010 with another solid game - 23 of 28 passing for 234 yards and three TDs in a 35-10 rout of Iowa State. Johnson now has 20 TD passes and three interceptions, and with Colt McCoy, Todd Reesing and Zac Robinson gone next year, Johnson might be the league’s best.
6. Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State: Already the Bulldogs’ career rushing leader, Dixon broke the single-game record, too, with 252 yards on 33 carries as Mississippi State kept alive its bowl hopes with a 31-24 upset of Kentucky. Mississippi State, 4-5, will need more upsets to go bowling, but the Bulldogs have made obvious improvements under first-year coach Dan Mullen.
5. Butch Davis: With a 16-16 record in almost three full seasons, the North Carolina coach was in need of a marquee victory. He got it with a 20-17 upset at Virginia Tech that put the Tar Heels (5-3) in solid bowl position.
4. Bernard Pierce: Few teams outrush Navy, but Temple did it in a 27-24 victory, and Pierce was the reason why. Pierce gave Temple its first lead with a 68-yard TD run and its last lead with a 41-yard run 2:41 from the end. Pierce, a freshman, gained 267 yards on 29 carries, becoming the first Own since Paul Palmer in 1986 to rush for at least 200 yards in consecutive games.
3. Greg Schiano: Once a hot coaching prospect, the Rutgers man could get that way again after a 28-24 win at Connecticut. Rutgers is 6-2 and could win at out - home games against South Florida and West Virginia, road games at Syracuse and Louisville.
2. Duke: Don’t look now, but the Blue Devils have the best chance to beat out Georgia Tech for the ACC’s Coastal Division title. Duke won 28-17 at Virginia to go 3-1 in the ACC. Coastal leading Georgia Tech is 5-1, but the Yellowjackets play at Duke on Nov. 14.
1. Pac-10 parity: One of college football’s longest-standing walls - USC’s domination of the Pac-10 - is about to crumble. Oregon’s 47-20 thumping of the Trojans likely will end USC’s seven straight seasons of winning the league. The Ducks have a two-game lead on SC and get arch-rival Oregon State at home.
DIVISIONS, DIVISIONS
We have a fantastic competition taking place in college football 2009. The ACC Atlantic and the Big 12 North are staging a battle royale to determine the worst division in the sport.
Not since baseball’s 1973 National League East have we seen such an awful division. The ‘73 Mets won the NL East with an 82-79 record; no one else in the six-team division had a winning record. Four teams in the NL West won at least 82 games.
First, a refresher on the teams that make up the ACC Atlantic, since you can’t go by geography. Boston College and Clemson lead the division at 3-2, followed by Florida State (2-3), Wake Forest (2-3), Maryland (1-3) and North Carolina State (0-4).
The Big 12 North, you know about. Kansas State (3-2), Nebraska (2-2), Iowa State (2-3), Kansas (1-3), Missouri (1-3) and Colorado (1-3).
Let’s compare the divisions.
Parity: The Big 12 North has more, since every team still has a shot, which is not a good thing when you’re trying to not be the worst division. Those three teams in last place are only 11/2 games behind in the standings. Meanwhile, NC State is 21/2 out of the lead. So give one point to the ACC Atlantic.
Records: The ACC Atlantic is 2-7 in crossover games; the Big 12 North is 3-9. Slight edge to the Big 12 North, so give another point to the ACC Atlantic.
Dangerous teams: Clemson actually is showing signs of life. The Tigers upset Miami two weeks ago and might make a decent opponent for someone in the ACC title game. No Big 12 North team shows life. Point to the Big 12 North.
Impressive wins: It’s crazy, but the ACC Atlantic actually has some notable victories out of conference. Florida State won at BYU. North Carolina gave Pitt its only loss. Wake Forest beat Stanford. Boston College beat Central Michigan, when everyone thought the Chippewas were capable of an upset. The Big 12 North counters with Kansas’ rout of Duke and Missouri’s neutral-field victory over Illinois back when we didn’t know that the Illini stunk. Point to the Big 12 North.
Bad losses: Maryland lost to Middle Tennessee State (and needed overtime to beat James Madison). But Kansas State lost to Louisiana-Lafayette and Colorado got whacked at Toledo. Point to the Big 12 North.
Chances of embarrassing finish: Clemson has a shot at going 6-2 in the ACC Atlantic. The Tigers finish with Florida State, at North Carolina State, Virginia. And if Florida State beats Clemson, the Seminoles could finish 5-3 (at Wake Forest, Maryland). No way will a Big 12 North team finish 6-2; 5-3 might be asking a lot. In fact, Kansas State is 3-2 and finishes with home games against Missouri and Kansas, plus a road game at Nebraska. It’s not hard to see the ‘Cats going 1-2 in that stretch. Nebraska hosts OU this Saturday and then goes to Kansas. Kansas and Missouri play on a neutral field. Well, you get the point. The Big 12 North champ very well could finish 4-4. Point to the Big 12 North.
Add it up, and the Big 12 North wins 4-2. The Big 12 North is the worst division in college football. History.
REALITY RANKINGS
The top 10 based not on what we think teams will do, but what they have done, along with their toughest game remaining:
1. Iowa: at Ohio State, Nov. 14
2. Florida: SEC title game, Dec. 5
3. Cincinnati: at Pittsburgh, Dec. 5
4. Texas: at Texas A&M, Nov. 26
5. Alabama: SEC title game, Dec. 5
6. Georgia Tech: ACC title game, Dec. 5
7. Boise State: Idaho, Nov. 14
8. Oregon: at Arizona, Nov. 21
9. TCU: Utah, Nov. 14
10. Southern Cal: Arizona, Dec. 5
TEN BIGGEST LOSERS OF THE WEEK:
10. Bill Stewart: Nicest guy in the world, but the West Virginia coach might not be cut out for the job. His Mountaineers lost 30-19 at South Florida, falling to 6-2 with a finishing schedule of Louisville, at Cincinnati, Pitt, at Rutgers.
9. Tulsa: The Golden Hurricane has played in bowl games five of the last six years, but that stretch might end after a 27-13 home loss to SMU. On the same field where Tulsa played Boise State to a virtual standstill, TU was dominated by the Mustangs and fell to 4-4.
8. Michigan State: The Spartans lost 42-34 at Minnesota to fall to 4-5. All five losses have been one-possession games. Michigan State’s five defeats have been by a total of 25 points.
7. Ole Miss: The Rebels were preseason top 10 but are 5-3 after a 33-20 loss at Auburn. Ole Miss’ wins are over Memphis, Southeastern Louisiana, Vanderbilt, Alabama-Birmingham and Arkansas.
6. Urban Meyer: The Florida coach suspended linebacker Brandon Spikes for one half of the upcoming game against Vanderbilt after Spikes tried to gouge the eyes of Georgia’s Waushan Ealey. After much criticism, Spikes announced he would suspend himself for the entire game. Good to know that someone is the adult.
5. New Mexico: A miserable season continued for the Lobos, who lost 23-20 to San Diego State, falling to 0-8 in a year in which first-year coach Mike Locksley’s status is uncertain because of allegations he assaulted an assistant coach.
4. Michigan: The hits just keep coming for the beleaguered Wolverines, who now are 8-13 under coach Rich Rodriguez. Michigan lost 38-13 to lowly Illinois, and while Michigan, 5-4, might still make a bowl, it’s obvious improvement in Ann Arbor is very small.
3. Boise State: The Broncos did their usual taking-care-of-business with a 45-7 rout at San Jose State and seem on the verge of a third undefeated regular season in the last four years. But Boise State was passed in the BCS rankings by TCU, and if the Horned Frogs beat Utah on Nov. 14, it seems likely that TCU will get the mid-major BCS spot that Boise State covets.
2. Big Ten officiating: Everyone is eat up with the SEC crews, but the replay calls in the Iowa-Indiana game were atrocious, especially an overruled Indiana touchdown that was pivotal in allowing Iowa to rally for a 42-24 victory. Officials on the field ruled Terrance Turner’s touchdown catch good, and replays seemed to show the call was correct. But it was overturned, then IU missed a field goal that would have extended its 24-14 lead late in the third quarter.
1. Tradition: Georgia wore black helmets for the first time ever and Tennessee wore black jerseys for the first time in at least 87 years. The motivational effects were mixed. Georgia lost 41-17 to Florida, but Tennessee routed South Carolina 31-13. But the wardrobe changes failed the aesthetic look. Tennessee’s white helmet, black shirt, pale orange pants rivals Wyoming as the worst look in college football. And Georgia sacrificed one of the nation’s most regal helmets for no good reason.
BOWL PROJECTIONS
New Mexico Bowl, Dec. 19, Albuquerque, N.M.
Air Force vs. Fresno State
St. Pete Bowl, Dec. 19, St. Petersburg, Fla.
South Florida vs. East Carolina
New Orleans Bowl, Dec. 20, New Orleans
Marshall vs. Troy
Las Vegas Bowl, Dec. 22, Las Vegas
Utah vs. Stanford
Poinsettia Bowl, Dec. 23, San Diego
BYU vs. Oregon State
Hawaii Bowl, Dec. 24, Honolulu
SMU vs. Boise State
Emerald Bowl, Dec. 26, San Francisco
Nevada vs. UCLA
Motor City Bowl, Dec. 26, Detroit
Northwestern vs. Ohio
Meineke Bowl, Dec. 26, Charlotte, N.C.
Boston College vs. Pittsburgh
Music City Bowl, Dec. 27, Nashville, Tenn.
Virginia Tech vs. South Carolina
Independence Bowl, Dec. 28, Shreveport, La.
Kansas State vs. Kentucky
Champs Sports Bowl, Dec. 29, Orlando, Fla.
North Carolina vs. Michigan
EagleBank Bowl, Dec. 30, Washington, D.C.
Duke vs. Navy
Holiday Bowl, Dec. 30, San Diego
Oklahoma vs. California
Humanitarian Bowl, Dec. 30, Boise, Idaho
Kent State vs. Idaho
Texas Bowl, Dec. 30, Houston
Texas A&M vs. Northern Illinois
Armed Forces Bowl, Dec. 30, Fort Worth, Texas
Kansas vs. UTEP
Sun Bowl, Dec. 31, El Paso, Texas
Nebraska vs. Arizona
Insight Bowl, Dec. 31, Tempe, Ariz.
Michigan State vs. Missouri
Chick-fil-A Bowl, Dec. 31, Atlanta
Clemson vs. Auburn
Outback Bowl, Jan. 1, Tampa, Fla.
Ohio State vs. Tennessee
Capital One Bowl, Jan. 1, Orlando, Fla.
Wisconsin vs. Ole Miss
Gator Bowl, Jan. 1, Jacksonville, Fla.
Miami vs. Notre Dame
Rose Bowl, Jan. 1, Pasadena, Calif.
Iowa vs. Oregon
Sugar Bowl, Jan. 1, New Orleans
Alabama vs. TCU
Cotton Bowl, Jan. 2, Arlington, Texas
LSU vs. Oklahoma State)
Liberty Bowl, Jan. 2, Memphis, Tenn.
Houston vs. vs. Georgia
International Bowl, Jan. 2, Toronto
Rutgers vs. Temple
PapaJohns.com Bowl, Jan. 2, Birmingham, Ala.
West Virginia vs. Arkansas
Alamo Bowl, Jan. 2, San Antonio
Minnesota vs. Texas Tech
Fiesta Bowl, Jan. 4, Glendale, Ariz.
Southern Cal vs. Cincinnati
Orange Bowl, Jan. 5, Miami Gardens, Fla.
Georgia Tech. vs. Penn State
GMAC Bowl, Jan. 6, Mobile, Ala.
Southern Miss vs. Central Michigan
Big Bowl, Jan. 7, Pasadena, Calif.
Texas vs. Florida
Berry Tramel can be heard Monday through Friday from 4:40-5:20 p.m. on The Sports Animal radio network, including AM-640 and FM-98.1. You can e-mail him here and follow him on Twitter @BerryTramel.
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Comments
Tram…do you honestly think that OSU can beat OU in Norman? You putting OSU in the Cotton is pretty much saying that. I think that you’re crazy if you really think that OSU can beat OU in Norman the way each team is playing.
Even though I am from Texas and am a UT fan, I really enjoyed this. I enjoyed the musings of someone who has lived a lot of life and still so clearly loves the game, especially personal thoughts on the stadiums and traditions. So, even if we differ on opinion I like the fact that you are invested in the game and are clearly enjoying yourself. You strike me as someone who it would be enjoyable to share a beer and a game with (as long as its not the red river shootout). Best wishes, and not all UT fans are obnoxious
Your Big XII bowl projections do not take into account that the championship game loser can not fall below the Alamo Bowl selection per league rules. So a team from the north needs to be in the Cotton, Holiday, or Alamo bowls.
Who said Bob cannot recruit; it’s the underlings that are doing most of the recruiting. I would not call Dejuan Miller a bad recruit. We have a lot of speed and a lot of NFL-caliber talent. I would say that Bob has a problem with loyalty and letting seniors always run the show. I think there’s a balance to strike between young talent and old talent mix on the field for the exception on the O-line. For the skilled positions, the best man should win out.
I very much enjoyed Carl’s college football odyssey. I have always enjoyed college football’s traditional powers and the aura they bring to the game. It would be great to make a tour of them someday but for now Carl’s blog will suffice. Thanks for printing it. Also it is a shame that so many fans, such as most I read on this blog cannot appreciate and enjoy others opinions and insight without taking it personally. Sad.
Oh, yeah, that was insightful. Colorado — great! Penn State — Wonderful! Everyplace else — wonderful! Except Texas, those obnoxious cheaters.
That 60-year-old in his whiteout shirt still has a lot of traveling to do before he grows up.
Oklahoma propaganda is always so entertaining. Its amusing that their little third world country is so easily mind-manipulated. Things that Tramel’s buddy didnt like: rain, port-a-potties, security guards, Colorado coach, fender benders and EVERYTHING about UT. The line was a suckers bet (Vegas is always in bed with Texas), the refs made ALL bad calls against OU(they are always in bed with Texas), Texas fans were booing at the game (that doesnt happen at any other campus in America), Colt isnt that good (how do you respond to that?) Side note: A co-worker brought me the local paper from the day after he attended the OU/Baylor game this year. Not only was there not a write-up of the Texas game in the local rag, there wasnt a box score. In the top 20 roundup, they skipped the Texas score. Amazing strategy by the unbiased media: dont tell the locals about the team down south or even recognize that they are a top 3 program. They’ll never know.

UT body slam of Bradford..bad call?? No wonder he lives in an RV. What a moron.