Comments on: Gresham vows silence http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/ Thoughts from The Oklahoman Sports Columnist Berry Tramel | NewsOK.com Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:37:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Matt http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9321 Matt Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:36:22 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9321 Gresham is probably upset because the arrest ended up making national news, including being one of the story links on espn. Thus reflecting negatively on him and OU, and possibly affecting his draft status and $$$. William says he is a retired officer and that this type of a warrant is usually only enforced if the subjuect encounters an officer randomly like on a subsequent traffic stop. So, THE REAL STORY is apparently about the PD. A follow up story should be done by NEWSOK. They could investigate how common it is too proactively arrest someone for not paying a seat belt ticket. And try to figure out how much the citizens ended up paying for this unnecessary and non SOP arrest. Good day Sir ! Gresham is probably upset because the arrest ended up making national news, including being one of the story links on espn. Thus reflecting negatively on him and OU, and possibly affecting his draft status and $$$.
William says he is a retired officer and that this type of a warrant is usually only enforced if the subjuect encounters an officer randomly like on a subsequent traffic stop. So, THE REAL STORY is apparently about the PD. A follow up story should be done by NEWSOK. They could investigate how common it is too proactively arrest someone for not paying a seat belt ticket. And try to figure out how much the citizens ended up paying for this unnecessary and non SOP arrest. Good day Sir !

]]> By: william http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9309 william Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:54:00 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9309 Being a retired police officer, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on this subject. The fact that he was a football player for the University of Oklahoma, is "THE ONLY" reason he was arrested on this warrant. Normally, warrants are issued when a defendant fails to appear. "Normally", the warrant goes into a file cabinet and the only time these type of warrants are served are if an officer comes into contact with a person who has an outstanding warrant. Basically, the warrant was served as soon as someone saw who the warrant was for. It's a bunch of garbage for law enforcement to waste time/effort & energy to serve these type of warrants. That's why they "Normally" don't serve them. But in this case, they made an exception. Don't get me wrong. He should have paid the fine and put it behind him. Being a retired police officer, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on this subject. The fact that he was a football player for the University of Oklahoma, is “THE ONLY” reason he was arrested on this warrant. Normally, warrants are issued when a defendant fails to appear. “Normally”, the warrant goes into a file cabinet and the only time these type of warrants are served are if an officer comes into contact with a person who has an outstanding warrant. Basically, the warrant was served as soon as someone saw who the warrant was for. It’s a bunch of garbage for law enforcement to waste time/effort & energy to serve these type of warrants. That’s why they “Normally” don’t serve them. But in this case, they made an exception. Don’t get me wrong. He should have paid the fine and put it behind him.

]]> By: Soonerfan http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9306 Soonerfan Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:15:24 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9306 Wow, I'm going to have to agree with John. I'm not entirely sure why you are steadfast in your disguist of someone, I assume, you do not know or have probably never met. The thing that people forget on these boards is that, whether I'm right or completely wrong (and he really is an "arrogant jerk" that thinks he's above the law), I was respectful. I didn't make any digs at other schools or other people, didn't curse those that disagreed with me. I simply stated what I had heard (because I know that a lot of people did not know his side of the story) in an appropriate way. So, whether I am right or wrong, at least people can respect the way I stated my opinion. Bob, even if you are 100% right, you're still are coming across in a very negative way. You seemed to insinuate that I was incompetent to believe the story that his mom told to a good friend of mine. I know people get personal online when it comes to college athletics, but save your digs for someone that plays that game. Otherwise, you just sound foolish. Wow, I’m going to have to agree with John. I’m not entirely sure why you are steadfast in your disguist of someone, I assume, you do not know or have probably never met. The thing that people forget on these boards is that, whether I’m right or completely wrong (and he really is an “arrogant jerk” that thinks he’s above the law), I was respectful. I didn’t make any digs at other schools or other people, didn’t curse those that disagreed with me. I simply stated what I had heard (because I know that a lot of people did not know his side of the story) in an appropriate way. So, whether I am right or wrong, at least people can respect the way I stated my opinion.

Bob, even if you are 100% right, you’re still are coming across in a very negative way. You seemed to insinuate that I was incompetent to believe the story that his mom told to a good friend of mine. I know people get personal online when it comes to college athletics, but save your digs for someone that plays that game. Otherwise, you just sound foolish.

]]> By: John http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9298 John Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:03:29 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9298 There I type about someone's usage and sure enough, I typo "an" instead of "a". Thankfully my reputation does not hinge on my ability to write or type coherently, I'm in health care. Everyone knows our writing is horrible. Just very irritated at the public making such a big deal of this when we have people killing law enforcement officers and fathers killing their spouse and children and so on. There I type about someone’s usage and sure enough, I typo “an” instead of “a”. Thankfully my reputation does not hinge on my ability to write or type coherently, I’m in health care. Everyone knows our writing is horrible. Just very irritated at the public making such a big deal of this when we have people killing law enforcement officers and fathers killing their spouse and children and so on.

]]> By: John http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9297 John Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:59:41 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9297 Wow at calling him an arrogant jerk. That's a little harsh considering you don't know him personally. He is actually a very nice kid and not the least bit arrogant. He is constantly showing that he has great humility about his football prowess and leadership saying that others on the team are the true leaders and stars. That doesn't sound arrogant to me. I think making a big deal out of the warrant for a seat belt ticket is pretty ridiculous. I can understand if he was wanted for a major crime, but making a news story out of a traffic ticket that does not involve endangering the lives of others is petty. He is a kid for Pete's sake! Not to mention that it is already made public in the section of the newspaper that covers warrants and arrests if I am not mistaken. Do you make a story out of everyone who gets a speeding ticket and doesn't pay it? And don't forget all of you unforgiving types, he has a lot of other pressures on him considering he is in the spotlight more than any of us will probably ever be, and all in just a handful of years. I agree he needs to pay his ticket but to call him an arrogant jerk seems way overboard. Not to mention it makes YOU come off as an jerk, arrogant or otherwise. By the way, Berry, use a grammar check program, you are a major media figure and saying things like "So he may very well HAS spoken for the last time as a Sooner" reflects badly on someone who makes a living on his words. Wow at calling him an arrogant jerk. That’s a little harsh considering you don’t know him personally. He is actually a very nice kid and not the least bit arrogant. He is constantly showing that he has great humility about his football prowess and leadership saying that others on the team are the true leaders and stars. That doesn’t sound arrogant to me.

I think making a big deal out of the warrant for a seat belt ticket is pretty ridiculous. I can understand if he was wanted for a major crime, but making a news story out of a traffic ticket that does not involve endangering the lives of others is petty. He is a kid for Pete’s sake! Not to mention that it is already made public in the section of the newspaper that covers warrants and arrests if I am not mistaken. Do you make a story out of everyone who gets a speeding ticket and doesn’t pay it? And don’t forget all of you unforgiving types, he has a lot of other pressures on him considering he is in the spotlight more than any of us will probably ever be, and all in just a handful of years.

I agree he needs to pay his ticket but to call him an arrogant jerk seems way overboard. Not to mention it makes YOU come off as an jerk, arrogant or otherwise.

By the way, Berry, use a grammar check program, you are a major media figure and saying things like “So he may very well HAS spoken for the last time as a Sooner” reflects badly on someone who makes a living on his words.

]]> By: Bob Schauer http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9295 Bob Schauer Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:25:31 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9295 Gresham did NOT get the warrant because of not wearing a seat belt, but because he blew off the ticket, didn't pay it (it isn't even a moving violation, more like an equipment ticket, such as a broken tail light.) Pay the damn ticket, kid! And to say he "forgot" about it??? Give me a damn break, he just blew it off. He is an arrogant jerk. Gresham did NOT get the warrant because of not wearing a seat belt, but because he blew off the ticket, didn’t pay it (it isn’t even a moving violation, more like an equipment ticket, such as a broken tail light.) Pay the damn ticket, kid! And to say he “forgot” about it??? Give me a damn break, he just blew it off. He is an arrogant jerk.

]]> By: Ray http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9294 Ray Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:01:13 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9294 I wouldn't have paid the ticket for a seat belt violation because I feel the seat belt law is a violation of my rights. I also see no need for anybody to publish the fact that someone ignored such a stupid law. It wasn't news when it happened, it wasn't news when he didn't pay. Leave the young man alone and let him play football for the best team in America. I wouldn’t have paid the ticket for a seat belt violation because I feel the seat belt law is a violation of my rights. I also see no need for anybody to publish the fact that someone ignored such a stupid law. It wasn’t news when it happened, it wasn’t news when he didn’t pay. Leave the young man alone and let him play football for the best team in America.

]]> By: Banjo Jones http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9292 Banjo Jones Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:01:11 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9292 He's pouting. Which is childish. Texas Fight! He’s pouting. Which is childish. Texas Fight!

]]> By: Jan http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9291 Jan Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:42:51 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9291 It seems to be a mountain out of mole hill getting a warrent for someone because of a seat belt violation! What a waste of our government and judicial system. Let's go after Criminals! It seems to be a mountain out of mole hill getting a warrent for someone because of a seat belt violation! What a waste of our government and judicial system. Let’s go after Criminals!

]]> By: Soonerfan http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/07/29/gresham-vows-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-9290 Soonerfan Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:18:32 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/?p=1161#comment-9290 Actually Cindy, I have a friend that knows Gresham's mom, and his car broke down, he took it into the shop and forgot that the ticket was in the car. He had forgotten about the ticket entirely (out of sight, out of mind... we're all guilty of that sometimes), and by the time he remembered, it was too late. He was not being arrogant, "above the law", or anything that you were suggesting. Just forgot. There's nothing there to justify a witch hunt. So, cut the guy a little slack. I go to OU and happen to know that he's a really great guy. He's always polite, courteous, and kind to everyone that pesters him for pictures, etc. Unfortunately, people have not given him the same benefit of the doubt in this situation that he gives to others. But, oh well. I suppose it's bound to happen when you're under the microscope. Ps. This friend that told me this story is a die hard Texas fan that currently attends OSU (haaaates OU), and even she said she felt sorry for him... which is really saying something haha :) Actually Cindy, I have a friend that knows Gresham’s mom, and his car broke down, he took it into the shop and forgot that the ticket was in the car. He had forgotten about the ticket entirely (out of sight, out of mind… we’re all guilty of that sometimes), and by the time he remembered, it was too late. He was not being arrogant, “above the law”, or anything that you were suggesting. Just forgot. There’s nothing there to justify a witch hunt.

So, cut the guy a little slack. I go to OU and happen to know that he’s a really great guy. He’s always polite, courteous, and kind to everyone that pesters him for pictures, etc. Unfortunately, people have not given him the same benefit of the doubt in this situation that he gives to others. But, oh well. I suppose it’s bound to happen when you’re under the microscope.

Ps. This friend that told me this story is a die hard Texas fan that currently attends OSU (haaaates OU), and even she said she felt sorry for him… which is really saying something haha :)

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