Comments on: Clemens: Not good company to keep

By: Sean Erenstoft

Sean Erenstoft — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:38:37 +0000

“He changed the subject whenever questions became uncomfortable.” I think he’s a cheat.

By: Greg

Greg — Tue, 19 May 2009 02:16:42 +0000

Actually, I think the comparisons between these two men are quite evident. Roger Clemens is, without a doubt, a self absorbed, arrogant, allegedly ‘bullet proof’ because of his talent and reputation who is nothing but an unadulterated liar. And there is the issue he is jerk ass Longhorn, so let him go to prison and develop skills as a wide receiver…..

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 19 May 2009 01:23:42 +0000

You guys are mistaken. Trammel is not a journalist; he is a columnist. As a columnist, he is paid to repeat other’s and his opinion. As a journalist, he would present facts based on research and evidence. Obviously, The Oklahoman has no journalists in their sports department, just columnists.

By: 2XP

2XP — Mon, 18 May 2009 22:50:23 +0000

“Some people tell themselves something so long that they almost come to believe it.”

Just like YOU BELIEVE… YOU’RE a SPORTS WRITER!

By: Jordan

Jordan — Mon, 18 May 2009 19:14:27 +0000

Did some of you people actually read this article? Did you just see Roger Clemens name next to a notorious Nazi official and garner the assumption that Barry Tramel thinks Clemens belongs in the annuals of evil war time crimminals? The whole basis is that Roger is presenting himself in the same manor as Goerring did in denying his crimes. It makes for a good article, nobody would read this blog if Tramel compared Clemens to middle school janitor who continued to deny and lie about using acid instead of bleach on the gym room floor! You people really can be shallow, maybe taking a refreshing course on literary analysis would do you some good. Good article Berry, I’m sure you have already done so, but just grow some tough skin against some of the more ignorant people in OK, they are just looking for the next pathetic water cooler talk to spread in their gossip circles.

By: Josh

Josh — Mon, 18 May 2009 18:40:38 +0000

“But to compare him to a Nazi war criminal? That’s asinine and ridiculous.”

Did he compare him with a war criminal, or did he compare him with a known liar? You can certainly compare similar traits in a person without claiming either person’s character totally encompasses the other. To insinuate that the writer was comparing Clemen’s crimes to Goerring’s crimes seems to be more in keeping with the definitions of the words “asinine and ridiculous” than anything the writer said. There is absolutely nothing in this article that would suggest the writer believes Clemens is as evil as Goerring. While they’re crimes were different, they both lied about them in similar fashion. The comparison ends there, and is an apt one.

By: deann

deann — Mon, 18 May 2009 17:35:33 +0000

The commonly used expression, “Those who ignore history are bound (or doomed) to repeat it” is actually a mis-quotation of the original text written by George Santayana, who, in his Reason in Common Sense, The Life of Reason, Vol.1, wrote “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

Santayana’s quotation, in turn, was a slight modification of an Edmund Burke (1729-1797) statement, “Those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it.”

By: Beryl

Beryl — Mon, 18 May 2009 17:14:10 +0000

I don’t think they were comparing Clemens to Goering, I think that they were just comparing the way Clemens was lying to the way Goering was lying. Seeing the similaries. If Clemens was not lying, he wouldn’t be avoiding questions and doing stuff like Goering did.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 18 May 2009 13:49:22 +0000

Wow. I don’t like Clemens. I think he is probably lying and is a cheat. But to compare him to a Nazi war criminal? That’s asinine and ridiculous. It’s completely inappropriate to compare the traits that lead someone to cheat at a game with someone who participated in the mass slaughter of human beings. I usually like your stuff Tramel…but giving credence to this type of psychobabble puts a serious dent in your credibility as a journalist. Clemens and Nazi’s? Let’s have some perspective here please!

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 18 May 2009 13:47:57 +0000