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	<title>Comments on: OSU staff turnover troubling</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from The Oklahoman Sports Columnist Berry Tramel &#124; NewsOK.com</description>
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		<title>By: keving1021</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/01/16/osu-staff-turnover-troubling/comment-page-1/#comment-6588</link>
		<dc:creator>keving1021</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your math is wrong.  If we go to the cotton bowl it would be 3 games at jerry&#039;s world and 1 at the cotton bowl.  Also, in an earlier post you asked for feedback on the cotton bowl renovations.  we sat in the section adjacent to the tunnel.  great seats, but all we could see was a scoreboard in the other endzone with score, game time, and time outs left.  No view of the jumbotron, no info on down and distance, etc.  AND no speakers to hear the public address announcer!! totally in the dark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your math is wrong.  If we go to the cotton bowl it would be 3 games at jerry&#8217;s world and 1 at the cotton bowl.  Also, in an earlier post you asked for feedback on the cotton bowl renovations.  we sat in the section adjacent to the tunnel.  great seats, but all we could see was a scoreboard in the other endzone with score, game time, and time outs left.  No view of the jumbotron, no info on down and distance, etc.  AND no speakers to hear the public address announcer!! totally in the dark.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/01/16/osu-staff-turnover-troubling/comment-page-1/#comment-6446</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will say this though!  One thing is for certain, given OU&#039;s lack of success in recent years in bowl games don&#039;t look for OU to earn the BCS spot over Texas if similar circumstances arise like this past season.  OU will have to beat Texas head up next year to even be considered for another shot at a national title.  That will be a tall order in and of itself with McCoy coming back for his senior year and virtually his entire supporting cast back as well.  You don&#039;t just replace guys like Loadholdt and Robinson on the offensive line overnight.  Bradford will be running for his life next season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say this though!  One thing is for certain, given OU&#8217;s lack of success in recent years in bowl games don&#8217;t look for OU to earn the BCS spot over Texas if similar circumstances arise like this past season.  OU will have to beat Texas head up next year to even be considered for another shot at a national title.  That will be a tall order in and of itself with McCoy coming back for his senior year and virtually his entire supporting cast back as well.  You don&#8217;t just replace guys like Loadholdt and Robinson on the offensive line overnight.  Bradford will be running for his life next season.</p>
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		<title>By: Slim Lemon</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/01/16/osu-staff-turnover-troubling/comment-page-1/#comment-6444</link>
		<dc:creator>Slim Lemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One point I think Berry missed is that Gundy&#039;s increased involvement in the offense had to have affected the decisions of the offensive coaches to leave. There&#039;s a reason some coaching staffs have little turnover and other staffs have much turnover: responsibilities are understood and respected in some places and not in others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point I think Berry missed is that Gundy&#8217;s increased involvement in the offense had to have affected the decisions of the offensive coaches to leave. There&#8217;s a reason some coaching staffs have little turnover and other staffs have much turnover: responsibilities are understood and respected in some places and not in others.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/01/16/osu-staff-turnover-troubling/comment-page-1/#comment-6440</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi john 3.01pm you said it, you know well that is who you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi john 3.01pm you said it, you know well that is who you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Moore</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/01/16/osu-staff-turnover-troubling/comment-page-1/#comment-6439</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OSU sure let a good coach get away when Vance Bedford was made a scapegoat by Gundy. Ask OU how good of coach he is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OSU sure let a good coach get away when Vance Bedford was made a scapegoat by Gundy. Ask OU how good of coach he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/01/16/osu-staff-turnover-troubling/comment-page-1/#comment-6437</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more suggestion.  I&#039;d really like to see them bring back Bill Young from Miami to be OSU&#039;s DC.  He&#039;s one of our own and proved at Kansas that he&#039;s a tremendous DC.  I know he doesn&#039;t fit Mike Gundy&#039;s role model as a young firey coach who fits into the fold, but he is a seasoned veteran which I think OSU needs more experienced coaches with track records supporting successful resumes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more suggestion.  I&#8217;d really like to see them bring back Bill Young from Miami to be OSU&#8217;s DC.  He&#8217;s one of our own and proved at Kansas that he&#8217;s a tremendous DC.  I know he doesn&#8217;t fit Mike Gundy&#8217;s role model as a young firey coach who fits into the fold, but he is a seasoned veteran which I think OSU needs more experienced coaches with track records supporting successful resumes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2009/01/16/osu-staff-turnover-troubling/comment-page-1/#comment-6436</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to comment further if you wouldn&#039;t mind.  You know a lot has been made of the Big XII&#039;s high potent offenses.  I think we see in the case of both OU and OSU&#039;s bowl bids that the Big XII is losing it&#039;s edge as a hard nosed football conference and are not as physical as teams from the past.  I liken OU and OSU to the days when Brigham Young would win ten or eleven games a year but were handily blown out in bowl games due to a lack of a physical presence especially on the defensive side of the ball.  This flag football routine is not that new and it produces a lot of points against inferior defenses, but put them up against the good defenses and they fail miserably.  Case in point, T-Tech, OU and OSU had probably the three most potent offenses in the Big XII.  All three lost their bowl bids.  Texas on the other hand is pretty formidable on the defensive front even if their secondary is sometimes suspect.  Tebow doesn&#039;t run on Texas like he did OU.  Florida-Texas, I believe Texas wins.  Bradford is a much better passer than Tebow, but Tebow more the competitor and complete player.  Tebow may not QB in the NFL, but believe me, he will play and excel in the NFL possibly as a receiver, fullback or slotback.  Bradford on the other hand will still have to work on his arm strength if he&#039;s to QB in the NFL.  Robinson won&#039;t play QB in the NFL, probably won&#039;t make an NFL roster, but is an exceptional college QB with his dual run pass threat and heady decision making.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to comment further if you wouldn&#8217;t mind.  You know a lot has been made of the Big XII&#8217;s high potent offenses.  I think we see in the case of both OU and OSU&#8217;s bowl bids that the Big XII is losing it&#8217;s edge as a hard nosed football conference and are not as physical as teams from the past.  I liken OU and OSU to the days when Brigham Young would win ten or eleven games a year but were handily blown out in bowl games due to a lack of a physical presence especially on the defensive side of the ball.  This flag football routine is not that new and it produces a lot of points against inferior defenses, but put them up against the good defenses and they fail miserably.  Case in point, T-Tech, OU and OSU had probably the three most potent offenses in the Big XII.  All three lost their bowl bids.  Texas on the other hand is pretty formidable on the defensive front even if their secondary is sometimes suspect.  Tebow doesn&#8217;t run on Texas like he did OU.  Florida-Texas, I believe Texas wins.  Bradford is a much better passer than Tebow, but Tebow more the competitor and complete player.  Tebow may not QB in the NFL, but believe me, he will play and excel in the NFL possibly as a receiver, fullback or slotback.  Bradford on the other hand will still have to work on his arm strength if he&#8217;s to QB in the NFL.  Robinson won&#8217;t play QB in the NFL, probably won&#8217;t make an NFL roster, but is an exceptional college QB with his dual run pass threat and heady decision making.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Berry, what&#039;s more troubling to me than the coaches leaving was the meltdown against Oregon.  Certainly we lost some key recruiters and while I thought Beckman did a fine job I&#039;m not certain OSU&#039;s defense is still where it needs to be in terms of being able to shut down and stop an opponent.  Part of the problem I think is certain coaches given too much responsibility while others weren&#039;t given enough.  You know when you get into titles like &quot;co-offensive coordinator&quot; it&#039;s like &quot;who&#039;s the guy&quot;.  From that standpoint I can see where someone like Brewer would take a cut to be the guy!  Money aside, I&#039;m not sure Gundy has earned the respect of his coaches.  A head coach must delegate first and foremost and for sure must give his defense as much attention as his offense.  From a recruiting standpoint, I think Luper and Taylor see an opportunity to be able to recruit in their backyards rather than having to recruit nationally and mainly in Texas.  Possibly they couldn&#039;t see an opportunity to move up in their respective careers at OSU.  Beckman, well almost any offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator is always looking for that next opportunity which in almost any teams coordinators usually jump at an opportunity to be a head coach somewhere.  OU has had similar situations losing Leach, Mangino and Mike Stoops to head coaching positions.  Others will follow.  Right now is a good time to be at OU but that won&#039;t always be the case.  They&#039;ll soon have more turnover in their coaching staff.  I think if I were Gundy though I would turn over the offensive coordinator helm to Brewer and go back to being a head coach.  The biggest part of being a head coach is earning the respect of your coaches and players, and you can&#039;t always get that done with money!  Ask Jerry Jones!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berry, what&#8217;s more troubling to me than the coaches leaving was the meltdown against Oregon.  Certainly we lost some key recruiters and while I thought Beckman did a fine job I&#8217;m not certain OSU&#8217;s defense is still where it needs to be in terms of being able to shut down and stop an opponent.  Part of the problem I think is certain coaches given too much responsibility while others weren&#8217;t given enough.  You know when you get into titles like &#8220;co-offensive coordinator&#8221; it&#8217;s like &#8220;who&#8217;s the guy&#8221;.  From that standpoint I can see where someone like Brewer would take a cut to be the guy!  Money aside, I&#8217;m not sure Gundy has earned the respect of his coaches.  A head coach must delegate first and foremost and for sure must give his defense as much attention as his offense.  From a recruiting standpoint, I think Luper and Taylor see an opportunity to be able to recruit in their backyards rather than having to recruit nationally and mainly in Texas.  Possibly they couldn&#8217;t see an opportunity to move up in their respective careers at OSU.  Beckman, well almost any offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator is always looking for that next opportunity which in almost any teams coordinators usually jump at an opportunity to be a head coach somewhere.  OU has had similar situations losing Leach, Mangino and Mike Stoops to head coaching positions.  Others will follow.  Right now is a good time to be at OU but that won&#8217;t always be the case.  They&#8217;ll soon have more turnover in their coaching staff.  I think if I were Gundy though I would turn over the offensive coordinator helm to Brewer and go back to being a head coach.  The biggest part of being a head coach is earning the respect of your coaches and players, and you can&#8217;t always get that done with money!  Ask Jerry Jones!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Longevity under T. Boone and his sock puppet is like table manners amongst cannibals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Longevity under T. Boone and his sock puppet is like table manners amongst cannibals.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boone Pickens help OSU big time, and now OSU is big time and other programs want the Cowboys crews.  Every where coaches and assistants are playing music chairs, so for the sour grapes, busy body and people know don&#039;t understand business go to college and get a education stop talking garbage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boone Pickens help OSU big time, and now OSU is big time and other programs want the Cowboys crews.  Every where coaches and assistants are playing music chairs, so for the sour grapes, busy body and people know don&#8217;t understand business go to college and get a education stop talking garbage.</p>
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