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	<title>Comments on: College Football Week 13: Legacies &amp; Legacy Trail</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from The Oklahoman Sports Columnist Berry Tramel &#124; NewsOK.com</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/25/college-football-week-13-legacies-legacy-trail/comment-page-1/#comment-5286</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boise St vs OU or UT. Sit on it Berry. How about having the upstarts pay some other conference and embarrass someone else.
And,,
IMO Stoops is a very low keyed unemotional person in front of the camera. I think this was his low keyed was of getting the stadium loud.  He knew that the first Tech offensive series was important to Tech and his D. Those quick penalties started the unraveling of Harrel&#039;s and Tech&#039;s game.  Coach Stoops be play call of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boise St vs OU or UT. Sit on it Berry. How about having the upstarts pay some other conference and embarrass someone else.<br />
And,,<br />
IMO Stoops is a very low keyed unemotional person in front of the camera. I think this was his low keyed was of getting the stadium loud.  He knew that the first Tech offensive series was important to Tech and his D. Those quick penalties started the unraveling of Harrel&#8217;s and Tech&#8217;s game.  Coach Stoops be play call of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that I am in the distinct minority, but I agree with Berry.

Bob could have said &quot;we need all the support from the crowd that we can get&quot; without making odious comparisons.  He chose to make the comparisons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that I am in the distinct minority, but I agree with Berry.</p>
<p>Bob could have said &#8220;we need all the support from the crowd that we can get&#8221; without making odious comparisons.  He chose to make the comparisons.</p>
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		<title>By: Grendel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry,

Did you actually &quot;let&quot; your wife order whatever you wnat?  Bold move BT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry,</p>
<p>Did you actually &#8220;let&#8221; your wife order whatever you wnat?  Bold move BT.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah i agree with the posts on here. He was trying to get the crowd to react by calling them out, not express his true feelings that he doesn&#039;t care for the fans. And it worked obviously. And saying that he was patching things up by bowing to us in the student section and giving the fans a game ball...? It&#039;s called a thanks for coming through when we needed you to. You always seem to create little underlying stories that aren&#039;t there. You&#039;re gonna try and turn fans against the god that is Bob Stoops? You&#039;re nuts berry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah i agree with the posts on here. He was trying to get the crowd to react by calling them out, not express his true feelings that he doesn&#8217;t care for the fans. And it worked obviously. And saying that he was patching things up by bowing to us in the student section and giving the fans a game ball&#8230;? It&#8217;s called a thanks for coming through when we needed you to. You always seem to create little underlying stories that aren&#8217;t there. You&#8217;re gonna try and turn fans against the god that is Bob Stoops? You&#8217;re nuts berry.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Says</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy Says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the stories or opinions you put out are just bunk. It just seems to me you are always trying to be negative against the sooner nation. Trying to stir trouble. That was the loudest we have been since Nebraska 2000. Stoops is a Coach, his job is to coax motivate and get people to react. Thats how coaches gain favor,not by saying great job when its not. This story goes along with the  We aren&#039;t who we thought we were  after our loss to Texas. All I can say is we are who we thought we were!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the stories or opinions you put out are just bunk. It just seems to me you are always trying to be negative against the sooner nation. Trying to stir trouble. That was the loudest we have been since Nebraska 2000. Stoops is a Coach, his job is to coax motivate and get people to react. Thats how coaches gain favor,not by saying great job when its not. This story goes along with the  We aren&#8217;t who we thought we were  after our loss to Texas. All I can say is we are who we thought we were!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Max Hix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Hix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really disagree that Bob Stoops threw the fans under the bus or implied they were not part of the Sooner success story.  Barry Tramel is one of my favorite writers, but I think he is off out in the toolies with this part of the story.
The OU fans are a big part of the OU success story and have always been.  Bob Stoops knows this and probably did a great thing in re-energizing them.  If I could have been at the game I would have yelled my head off.  I think I did anyway in my living room. GO BIG RED, FANS AND ALL!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really disagree that Bob Stoops threw the fans under the bus or implied they were not part of the Sooner success story.  Barry Tramel is one of my favorite writers, but I think he is off out in the toolies with this part of the story.<br />
The OU fans are a big part of the OU success story and have always been.  Bob Stoops knows this and probably did a great thing in re-energizing them.  If I could have been at the game I would have yelled my head off.  I think I did anyway in my living room. GO BIG RED, FANS AND ALL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I pretty much disagree with your whole take on this. I think this was just a way to pump up the crowd for the game. Things have become fairly calm even at big games at OU. I believe he was just trying to fire everyone up to the level we need to be at all the big games. I think that you are really making much to much about this. Where do you get that Stoops doesn&#039;t care about the fans? I was at the Lloyd Noble Center when Stoops came out and spent his afternoon signing autographs because he missed the team day due to a funeral. He could have blown the fans off but he didn&#039;t. So, please don&#039;t try and paint this in the wrong way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I pretty much disagree with your whole take on this. I think this was just a way to pump up the crowd for the game. Things have become fairly calm even at big games at OU. I believe he was just trying to fire everyone up to the level we need to be at all the big games. I think that you are really making much to much about this. Where do you get that Stoops doesn&#8217;t care about the fans? I was at the Lloyd Noble Center when Stoops came out and spent his afternoon signing autographs because he missed the team day due to a funeral. He could have blown the fans off but he didn&#8217;t. So, please don&#8217;t try and paint this in the wrong way.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t feel like Coach Stoops was throwing fans under the bus nor do I feel like fans are on the outside looking in.  I think he was asking for some help for the team.  Make noise to help rattle the visitors like home crowds do to OU when they are on the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t feel like Coach Stoops was throwing fans under the bus nor do I feel like fans are on the outside looking in.  I think he was asking for some help for the team.  Make noise to help rattle the visitors like home crowds do to OU when they are on the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Berry,

I&#039;ve got to disagree with you about one thing. Well actually, maybe I kind of agree with your thought on the fact that Bob Stoops called out the fans, and in the process may have indicated (to some) that the fans were expendable.

My disagreement is that you believe the fans will &quot;close up their heart.&quot;

If anything, Bob said what a lot of fans have been saying for a while. We are nowhere near the caliber of LSU, Florida, Virginia Tech, etc. We haven&#039;t made noise. We&#039;ve sat down. We&#039;ve watched the student section shrink since the 70&#039;s, and we&#039;ve watched them shrink during the course of most games.

I don&#039;t feel like Bob &quot;threw us under the bus,&quot; but I understand why some (a very few, I think) would feel that way.

Either way, I have no problem with it. What we saw Saturday should be status quo... not that I expect it for Baylor or Chattanooga or Iowa State. But every big game should be like that.

If we want to get a lot more night games like LSU seems to, we&#039;ve got to deliver. Now, I hope we can remember what the stadium was like for a whole year, and do it again.

If anything, even if I were to be one who lost heart for Bob, I&#039;d think I&#039;d gain it back.. and then some... for the game atmosphere. With money woes and such, watching games from  my couch is becoming more and more tempting.

But, not if I know I&#039;m going to miss seeing what we saw in person on Saturday night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berry,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to disagree with you about one thing. Well actually, maybe I kind of agree with your thought on the fact that Bob Stoops called out the fans, and in the process may have indicated (to some) that the fans were expendable.</p>
<p>My disagreement is that you believe the fans will &#8220;close up their heart.&#8221;</p>
<p>If anything, Bob said what a lot of fans have been saying for a while. We are nowhere near the caliber of LSU, Florida, Virginia Tech, etc. We haven&#8217;t made noise. We&#8217;ve sat down. We&#8217;ve watched the student section shrink since the 70&#8242;s, and we&#8217;ve watched them shrink during the course of most games.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel like Bob &#8220;threw us under the bus,&#8221; but I understand why some (a very few, I think) would feel that way.</p>
<p>Either way, I have no problem with it. What we saw Saturday should be status quo&#8230; not that I expect it for Baylor or Chattanooga or Iowa State. But every big game should be like that.</p>
<p>If we want to get a lot more night games like LSU seems to, we&#8217;ve got to deliver. Now, I hope we can remember what the stadium was like for a whole year, and do it again.</p>
<p>If anything, even if I were to be one who lost heart for Bob, I&#8217;d think I&#8217;d gain it back.. and then some&#8230; for the game atmosphere. With money woes and such, watching games from  my couch is becoming more and more tempting.</p>
<p>But, not if I know I&#8217;m going to miss seeing what we saw in person on Saturday night.</p>
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