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	<title>Comments on: Thunder attendance least of NBA&#8217;s problems</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from The Oklahoman Sports Columnist Berry Tramel &#124; NewsOK.com</description>
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		<title>By: ThuderUp</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/20/thunder-attendance-least-of-nbas-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-122568</link>
		<dc:creator>ThuderUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL at everyone on here who thought the Thunder would always be terrible]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL at everyone on here who thought the Thunder would always be terrible</p>
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		<title>By: bw</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/20/thunder-attendance-least-of-nbas-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-10272</link>
		<dc:creator>bw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a sports fan but after going through the statements made here, I don&#039;t see myself watching the Thunder.  Certainly I am not going to pay to watch some team lose over half their games.  If I&#039;m to spend money on sporting events, it will be at OSU.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a sports fan but after going through the statements made here, I don&#8217;t see myself watching the Thunder.  Certainly I am not going to pay to watch some team lose over half their games.  If I&#8217;m to spend money on sporting events, it will be at OSU.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oklahoma city you reap what you sew! You deserve this from raping Seattle from their 41 year history and 13th largest marketplace. I hope you are all proud!

A big &quot;F&quot; you to you Oklahoma and to Clay Bennett! 

Fans of NBA basketball:

This system is broke. David Stern is Clay Clay&#039;s bitch. The NBA continues to lose money and fans in honest small town markets! History means nothing to David Stern.

I understand the NBA is a business and is all about making money, but how many lives and hearts have to broke before fans say enough!

ANY team in the NBA is vulnerable to be being violently ripped from their city and yes that does include LA and New York! Beware fans your town may be next!

I hope Clay Bennett and David Stern both get run over by a tractor! They are pieces of SHITE!

If you do not believe how evil Clay is then watch this documentary called SonicsGate!

http://vimeo.com/7030942]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oklahoma city you reap what you sew! You deserve this from raping Seattle from their 41 year history and 13th largest marketplace. I hope you are all proud!</p>
<p>A big &#8220;F&#8221; you to you Oklahoma and to Clay Bennett! </p>
<p>Fans of NBA basketball:</p>
<p>This system is broke. David Stern is Clay Clay&#8217;s bitch. The NBA continues to lose money and fans in honest small town markets! History means nothing to David Stern.</p>
<p>I understand the NBA is a business and is all about making money, but how many lives and hearts have to broke before fans say enough!</p>
<p>ANY team in the NBA is vulnerable to be being violently ripped from their city and yes that does include LA and New York! Beware fans your town may be next!</p>
<p>I hope Clay Bennett and David Stern both get run over by a tractor! They are pieces of SHITE!</p>
<p>If you do not believe how evil Clay is then watch this documentary called SonicsGate!</p>
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/7030942" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/7030942</a></p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think it&#039;s appropriate to say bad things the owner.  You have to believe that he is an intelligent person who is trying to do his best for his community. It was probably not appropriate for him to indicate in any way that he was going to keep the Sonics in Seattle. He bought the team to move them, which happens in his professional sports.

This is the only professional sports team in their city.  It is extremely unlikely that they will ever have any other kind of sports franchise.  This is a very small market so I think the Seattle folks should be willing to cut them some slack.  But the reality is that it will be extremely hard to recruit great athletes to come to Oklahoma City.  You can look at it in any way that you want but Oklahoma City is still in the middle of nowhere and most professional athletes are just not going to be interested.  The other part of this is that while they have been recruiting some good athletes, if Mr. Bennett is going to continue his involvement, then the franchise is probably in serious danger.  I wish them the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s appropriate to say bad things the owner.  You have to believe that he is an intelligent person who is trying to do his best for his community. It was probably not appropriate for him to indicate in any way that he was going to keep the Sonics in Seattle. He bought the team to move them, which happens in his professional sports.</p>
<p>This is the only professional sports team in their city.  It is extremely unlikely that they will ever have any other kind of sports franchise.  This is a very small market so I think the Seattle folks should be willing to cut them some slack.  But the reality is that it will be extremely hard to recruit great athletes to come to Oklahoma City.  You can look at it in any way that you want but Oklahoma City is still in the middle of nowhere and most professional athletes are just not going to be interested.  The other part of this is that while they have been recruiting some good athletes, if Mr. Bennett is going to continue his involvement, then the franchise is probably in serious danger.  I wish them the best.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/20/thunder-attendance-least-of-nbas-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-9260</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate all of you people in oklahoma.
You guys have no idea what the sonics meant to Seattle...
And you guys are complaining about how you didn&#039;t get a SELLOUT. I hope you lose every single game you guys play in and that Clay Bennet gets ran over by a tractor...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate all of you people in oklahoma.<br />
You guys have no idea what the sonics meant to Seattle&#8230;<br />
And you guys are complaining about how you didn&#8217;t get a SELLOUT. I hope you lose every single game you guys play in and that Clay Bennet gets ran over by a tractor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: OKC ROCKS!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>OKC ROCKS!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All you people need to shut the hell up.  For 3 years now, a NBA team, which has had a losing season, has had over 18 k people for each game. only 7 other teams can say that. OKC doesnt suck, you hear things and never know personally. i lived in okc for many years and have lived in New Orleans and Costa Mesa(LA), CA. i couldnt wait to get back, like any other city in the center of this country. What do other large cities have to offer that we dont.  Actually, are metro is larger than portland, Salt Lake City, Memphis, Charl. and its not about population, its about ratings. OKC market ranks 15 overall in major sports market for television, and top 10 for all other sports like the olimpics,etc.  We also have top 5 radio sports broadcasting ratings in the country. that is what matters. that is where populations get their information and that is where businesses make their money, through advertisement. Dumbasses, look at Buffalo, Green Bay.  They sell out every NFL game, and their market are not even in the top 75.  So, b4 you start saying stuff about population, and what determines what makes a franchise successful. Read demographic books, business articles. Not espn, blogs, sports magazines.  Another thing. CP3 and coach byron scott both fell in love with okc, and live here in the off season.  ANd i think CP3 is a top notch star.  Calm down.  You can be upset that we have a team, but dont say things that are not accurate and could possibly make you look unintelligent.  GO THUNDER!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you people need to shut the hell up.  For 3 years now, a NBA team, which has had a losing season, has had over 18 k people for each game. only 7 other teams can say that. OKC doesnt suck, you hear things and never know personally. i lived in okc for many years and have lived in New Orleans and Costa Mesa(LA), CA. i couldnt wait to get back, like any other city in the center of this country. What do other large cities have to offer that we dont.  Actually, are metro is larger than portland, Salt Lake City, Memphis, Charl. and its not about population, its about ratings. OKC market ranks 15 overall in major sports market for television, and top 10 for all other sports like the olimpics,etc.  We also have top 5 radio sports broadcasting ratings in the country. that is what matters. that is where populations get their information and that is where businesses make their money, through advertisement. Dumbasses, look at Buffalo, Green Bay.  They sell out every NFL game, and their market are not even in the top 75.  So, b4 you start saying stuff about population, and what determines what makes a franchise successful. Read demographic books, business articles. Not espn, blogs, sports magazines.  Another thing. CP3 and coach byron scott both fell in love with okc, and live here in the off season.  ANd i think CP3 is a top notch star.  Calm down.  You can be upset that we have a team, but dont say things that are not accurate and could possibly make you look unintelligent.  GO THUNDER!!!</p>
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		<title>By: 253vet</title>
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		<dc:creator>253vet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bennett is a scrub.  But so is Shchultz.  But so is OKC.  At the end of the day I still live in the mighty Northwest, and the Sonics were a good franchise for majority of the 41 years.  Bennett completely gutted the team intentionally to decrease attendance and increase his chances of relocating.  The draft picks of Durant, Green, and Westbrook were all excellent picks...but it won&#039;t matter, nobody wants to live in OKC and they will be a perennial bottom feeder. OK will always have Sooner football and thats it.  Be content.  The dream would be to become like a Portland or SA (which are both almost twice the population) but that won&#039;t happen.  I understand Bennett has pride in his hometown, but it was a terrible business decision, they&#039;ll be lucky to last 10 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bennett is a scrub.  But so is Shchultz.  But so is OKC.  At the end of the day I still live in the mighty Northwest, and the Sonics were a good franchise for majority of the 41 years.  Bennett completely gutted the team intentionally to decrease attendance and increase his chances of relocating.  The draft picks of Durant, Green, and Westbrook were all excellent picks&#8230;but it won&#8217;t matter, nobody wants to live in OKC and they will be a perennial bottom feeder. OK will always have Sooner football and thats it.  Be content.  The dream would be to become like a Portland or SA (which are both almost twice the population) but that won&#8217;t happen.  I understand Bennett has pride in his hometown, but it was a terrible business decision, they&#8217;ll be lucky to last 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew From Seattle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew From Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. Atleast we never booed our beloved team. To hear that you guys are booing your team makes me sick. Have a little pride, thats your team. You should all be ashamed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Atleast we never booed our beloved team. To hear that you guys are booing your team makes me sick. Have a little pride, thats your team. You should all be ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew From Seattle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew From Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guess what OKC. The reason the Sonics attendance was so low last year is because even though we all love the Sonics, and we still love the SONICS, nobody here wanted to give a penny to that shyster Bennett. He will be trying to get his $500 million basketball palace/mall/movie theatre/restaurants from you guys too. We rebuilt Key Arena back in the late 90&#039;s, and David Stern commended our city on what a great arena it was. So I give your guy&#039;s crappy arena about 5 more years before Bennett wants a new one. And he&#039;s a real estate developer. His whole goal of bringing the Seattle Sloppy Seconds to your city is because he wants to jack up the property values and raise your cost of living to the point to where none of you morons can afford to live there. And speaking of living in OKC, no self respecting basketball player is ever going to want to live in OKLAHOMA, so unless your team is willing to shell out a 30% premium on every salary, you&#039;ll never have any good players, the Seattle Sloppy Seconds are soon to be the Oklahoma City Used To Have Kevin Durant Basketball Club. So enjoy your years of mediocraty. I&#039;d rather live in Seattle without the NBA than live in OKC and have a crappy basketball team that will eventually leave. Enjoy your winter of discontent douche bags.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what OKC. The reason the Sonics attendance was so low last year is because even though we all love the Sonics, and we still love the SONICS, nobody here wanted to give a penny to that shyster Bennett. He will be trying to get his $500 million basketball palace/mall/movie theatre/restaurants from you guys too. We rebuilt Key Arena back in the late 90&#8242;s, and David Stern commended our city on what a great arena it was. So I give your guy&#8217;s crappy arena about 5 more years before Bennett wants a new one. And he&#8217;s a real estate developer. His whole goal of bringing the Seattle Sloppy Seconds to your city is because he wants to jack up the property values and raise your cost of living to the point to where none of you morons can afford to live there. And speaking of living in OKC, no self respecting basketball player is ever going to want to live in OKLAHOMA, so unless your team is willing to shell out a 30% premium on every salary, you&#8217;ll never have any good players, the Seattle Sloppy Seconds are soon to be the Oklahoma City Used To Have Kevin Durant Basketball Club. So enjoy your years of mediocraty. I&#8217;d rather live in Seattle without the NBA than live in OKC and have a crappy basketball team that will eventually leave. Enjoy your winter of discontent douche bags.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff in Vancouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff in Vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a former Vancouver Grizzly fan, I am saddened by what happened. Oklahoma City is only two months into their tenure and they are already having some problems? We had the worst team in NBA history for 6 years. In year 3 or 4, the team was in a 20 game losing streak. They came back after a long and disastrous road trip, and their first game was a sell-out. It was only when it became obvious that they were moving that the crowds started to dwindle.
  The league dumped Vancouver and Seattle for Memphis and OKC? This is supposed to be the best run organization in sports! I have the same feelings of good will towards Michael Heisley that Sonics fans have for Bennett.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former Vancouver Grizzly fan, I am saddened by what happened. Oklahoma City is only two months into their tenure and they are already having some problems? We had the worst team in NBA history for 6 years. In year 3 or 4, the team was in a 20 game losing streak. They came back after a long and disastrous road trip, and their first game was a sell-out. It was only when it became obvious that they were moving that the crowds started to dwindle.<br />
  The league dumped Vancouver and Seattle for Memphis and OKC? This is supposed to be the best run organization in sports! I have the same feelings of good will towards Michael Heisley that Sonics fans have for Bennett.</p>
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