Comments on: Coaches poll: OU ahead of Texas http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/ Thoughts from The Oklahoman Sports Columnist Berry Tramel | NewsOK.com Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:42:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Texas Online Pharmacy http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5618 Texas Online Pharmacy Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:01:20 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5618 FedEx overnight shipping and free prescription at http://texasonlinepharmacy.com/ FedEx overnight shipping and free prescription at http://texasonlinepharmacy.com/

]]> By: John http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5081 John Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:26:51 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5081 They aren't ahead of them anymore. They aren’t ahead of them anymore.

]]> By: David http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5049 David Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:50:52 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5049 Mike: It takes a 1 cell brain to think you are the only one who understands the rules for the Big XII Championship game. Texas, by beating Missouri, wins against more highly ranked teams than OU or Tech . I will agree with one thing you say ---- the human voters are fickle. Explain to me, in one syllable words of course, how OU is ranked above UT in the Coaches Poll before they have played TT or OSU and also lost to UT. By the way, if you can explain it with validity, then I will consider you a true GENIUS. It is this kind of logic that makes me worry that UT is in real trouble if it winds up in a 3 way tie. Lastly, it is true that if a team loses a game in a situation like this you run the risk of being cut out. Mike:

It takes a 1 cell brain to think you are the only one who understands the rules for the Big XII Championship game. Texas, by beating Missouri, wins against more highly ranked teams than OU or Tech . I will agree with one thing you say —- the human voters are fickle. Explain to me, in one syllable words of course, how OU is ranked above UT in the Coaches Poll before they have played TT or OSU and also lost to UT. By the way, if you can explain it with validity, then I will consider you a true GENIUS. It is this kind of logic that makes me worry that UT is in real trouble if it winds up in a 3 way tie. Lastly, it is true that if a team loses a game in a situation like this you run the risk of being cut out.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5047 Mike Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:30:52 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5047 David and J don't seem to grasp the way the Big XII Championship game works. If OU, Texas and Tech all end the season with one loss, it is a three way tie: OU loss to TX, Tx loss to TT, TT loss to OU. According to Big XII rules, not some kind of homerism on Berry's part, the tie breaker is by who is ahead in the BCS. The BCS is affected by human polls, and those humans won't care that Texas lost to Tech on Tech's field, all they'll see is that OU beat the #2 team in the nation, and then followed it up with another win over a top 15-20 team the next week (OSU). What's the remaining schedule for Texas? Kansas and A&M. Those games are going to hurt Texas in both strength of schedule with the computer polls, and with late season big wins in the eyes of the fickle human voters. I realize you both struggle with words with more than 1 syllable, but grab the dictionary and work through it, geniuses. David and J don’t seem to grasp the way the Big XII Championship game works. If OU, Texas and Tech all end the season with one loss, it is a three way tie: OU loss to TX, Tx loss to TT, TT loss to OU. According to Big XII rules, not some kind of homerism on Berry’s part, the tie breaker is by who is ahead in the BCS. The BCS is affected by human polls, and those humans won’t care that Texas lost to Tech on Tech’s field, all they’ll see is that OU beat the #2 team in the nation, and then followed it up with another win over a top 15-20 team the next week (OSU). What’s the remaining schedule for Texas? Kansas and A&M. Those games are going to hurt Texas in both strength of schedule with the computer polls, and with late season big wins in the eyes of the fickle human voters. I realize you both struggle with words with more than 1 syllable, but grab the dictionary and work through it, geniuses.

]]> By: Ric http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5041 Ric Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:39:15 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5041 Okay.......I'm confused............why is it that everyone thinks it's a problem if OU is ranked ahead of TX in a 3-way tie between OU, TX and TT, but no one seems upset that TX would then be ranked ahead of TT. If I remember correctly, TT beat TX. I know that TX fans argue that it took a last second play to TT to beat TX, but as I remember the game, TT dominated TX most of the way and TX was lucky to stay in the game......this is why head-to-head does not count in such a 3-way tie situation................ Okay…….I’m confused…………why is it that everyone thinks it’s a problem if OU is ranked ahead of TX in a 3-way tie between OU, TX and TT, but no one seems upset that TX would then be ranked ahead of TT. If I remember correctly, TT beat TX. I know that TX fans argue that it took a last second play to TT to beat TX, but as I remember the game, TT dominated TX most of the way and TX was lucky to stay in the game……this is why head-to-head does not count in such a 3-way tie situation…………….

]]> By: Dick http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5035 Dick Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:12:14 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5035 Berrry is right; Sooners will win the BCS points if they win out. You get huge points for defeating the no. 2 team, not to speak of OSU. But it is all a big "if" at this point. Playoffs? PLEEEEEZ....you get football after football game in December after a long season. And, forget the regular season, where everyone will carefully pile up 1AA team opposition. It would be a pity. The national champion has always been a disputed affair, long before BCS. And playoffs don't guarantee a great finale anyway. And the academics. Don't forget George Cross's famous comment to a skeptical Legislature: "I'm just trying to build a school the football team will be proud of." Berrry is right; Sooners will win the BCS points if they win out. You get huge points for defeating the no. 2 team, not to speak of OSU. But it is all a big “if” at this point.

Playoffs? PLEEEEEZ….you get football after football game in December after a long season. And, forget the regular season, where everyone will carefully pile up 1AA team opposition. It would be a pity. The national champion has always been a disputed affair, long before BCS. And playoffs don’t guarantee a great finale anyway. And the academics. Don’t forget George Cross’s famous comment to a skeptical Legislature: “I’m just trying to build a school the football team will be proud of.”

]]> By: Dave http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5027 Dave Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:01:56 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5027 David and J - It is possible for OU to be ranked ahead of Texas at the end of the regular season. As far as Texas being ranked higher than OU if OU beats both TT and OSU, just look at OSU's ranking below Missouri, a team that OSU beat. Who can figure what those will do that comprise the BCS rankings? I agree with J. A four team playoff or an eight team playoff. I'm not very interested in seeing more than eight. The 'Mad Scientist' says a sixty-four playoff would be OK. David and J – It is possible for OU to be ranked ahead of Texas at the end of the regular season. As far as Texas being ranked higher than OU if OU beats both TT and OSU, just look at OSU’s ranking below Missouri, a team that OSU beat. Who can figure what those will do that comprise the BCS rankings?

I agree with J. A four team playoff or an eight team playoff. I’m not very interested in seeing more than eight. The ‘Mad Scientist’ says a sixty-four playoff would be OK.

]]> By: J http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5025 J Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:01:40 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5025 David - Barry is sore that Texas spanked ou, so don't bother with him... This is why we need a playoff. mobile u hasn't played anyone since Texas spanked them... David – Barry is sore that Texas spanked ou, so don’t bother with him… This is why we need a playoff. mobile u hasn’t played anyone since Texas spanked them…

]]> By: David http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5024 David Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:54:30 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5024 I left one thing out from my previous statement . --- If OU beats TT they will fall below both Texas and OU. Thus my statement that in a 3 way tie Texas should obviously be above OU. I left one thing out from my previous statement . — If OU beats TT they will fall below both Texas and OU. Thus my statement that in a 3 way tie Texas should obviously be above OU.

]]> By: David Hagan http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/comment-page-1/#comment-5023 David Hagan Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:01:36 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2008/11/09/coaches-poll-ou-ahead-of-texas/#comment-5023 Mr Tramel, Excuse me but if Texas and Oklahoma win out it would appear to me they have played the same high profile games Oklahoma did. Thus in a 2 way or 3 way tie, help me out here. Texas vs Oklahoma? Texas won going away. TT beat Texas due to Mack Brown and his normal tactical brillance. With the game clock running there were 29, 17,7,21 seconds remaining on the play clock at the snap and thus leaving TT 1:29. I am afraid your OU leanings have badly affected your logic. David Mr Tramel,
Excuse me but if Texas and Oklahoma win out it would appear to me they have played the same high profile games Oklahoma did. Thus in a 2 way or 3 way tie, help me out here. Texas vs Oklahoma? Texas won going away. TT beat Texas due to Mack Brown and his normal tactical brillance. With the game clock running there were 29, 17,7,21 seconds remaining on the play clock at the snap and thus leaving TT 1:29. I am afraid your OU leanings have badly affected your logic.

David

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