Emails flood in on Thunder
A new batch of emails, but primarily the same old subject. The NBA nickname. Some comment on Thunder, others still cling to the notion of running through another name and some just want to have fun.
Ralph asked, “If the local NBA team takes the name, ‘The Wind,’ would not that open up the rest of the country to perceive Oklahoma City as being a flatulent society?”
I don’t know, but it would open up the rest of the country to perceive us as very unimaginative.
Lou is campaigning for thunderlizard as the mascot for the Thunder. “Years ago Gary England used to refer to his thunderlizard as part of the forecast. For some reason, he stopped, whether it was requested by the station or what, but it was funny.”
I like it. I like it a lot. Of course, I’d like the Oklahoma City Lizards even better.
Todd admitted that “it is absolutely too late to get a name in for the team. I just think the OKC Dirt Devils sound so much better than the Thunder, and you could actually come up with a mascot with that. I don’t know how many Oklahomans know what a dirt devil is, but it is a mini twister that happens out in the open plains or fields of Oklahoma.
Devils of any kind doesn’t have staying power. That said, I sort of like it.
Steve said the six finalists for the NBA name “are an embarrassment to the state. Let’s make this a simple decision for Clay and the boys. The team name: Twisters. Team song: The Twist by Chubby Checker. The dance team: Twistettes: How simple can this be?”
Well, Twistettes is pretty simple. Simple-minded. That being said, the idea of the Ford Center rocking to “The Twist” makes me rethink my original denouncing of the Twisters idea.
David wrote, “I gotta love the name Oklahoma City Marshalls, one of the names the NBA slapped a trademark on. The team is to be named not for the old western lawkeepers, who sported but a single “L” in their title. The double “L” clearly indicates the team is to be named for my alma mater: John Marshall. YIPPEE! Take that, U.S. Grant and Northwest Classen.”
Settle down, David. I think more likely, the department store. And most likely, someone didn’t spell check.
Terry wrote, “Why is everyone so surprised it’s taking so long to release the team name? Stop and think. What is the club marketing right now? Practice jerseys and caps. What do these things sell for, $30, $40 each? Once they are all gone and college football starts dominating the sports talk and pages, the name will be released. These owners aren’t dummies and as long as there is a buck to be made, they’ll let this linger. Also they can steal a little of football’s thunder, pun intended, by waiting until practice kicks off and get the team back in the spotlight for awhile. Whatcha think?”
I think they will sell a ton more Thunder stuff than generic OKC stuff.
Brock wrote, “Here is my question: Why do we have to have a nickname, at least right now? Why rush to pick a nickname for the sake of having one? Why not take the time to do it right instead of rushing into something prematurely? There’s nothing worse than trying to rebrand five or 10 years later. Is there some NBA rule that says you have to have a nickname? I’ll admit I’m a little bit of a sucker for the romantic notion that the best nicknames seem to be the ones that just kind of developed over time like the Red Sox (who didn’t have an official nickname until 1908). For a year, every can just know the team as Oklahoma City. I like hearing the city’s name everywhere. I think the two shirts the NBA has for sale that just say “OKC” and “Property of Oklahoma City basketball” are cool. Then people (sportswriters and fans) can just start calling them a variety of nicknames and if something seems to stick then use it. It will have the feeling of tradition more than marketing. Of course this won’t happen. I know how the world works.”
Well, interesting theory. Reminds me of when I was a kid, and the pastor of our church left, and some woman told my dad she didn’t know why we even needed a pastor. Because without a pastor, everything falls apart. And without a nickname, you can’t market for beans. This isn’t studying for medical school; if something good hasn’t come to us by now, it’s not going to.
Ron wrote, “How about War Chiefs for the NBA team? War Chiefs is a position equal to a general, not at all racist.”
War Chiefs had no more chance than Injuns.
Mercedes wrote, “I’m still waking up at night with ideas. Now, a new song is ringing in my ears. Looks like the Thunder and Lightning and Storms were left in Seattle. They’ll find blue skies in Oklahoma City. I remember singing a lively song of optimism and enthusiasm. Could be an entry song: ‘Blue skies smiling at me. Nothing but blue skies do I see. Blue days, all of them gone. Nothing but blue skies from now on. Never saw the sun shining so bright. Never saw things going so right. Noticing the days hurrying by. When you’re in love, my, how they fly.’ Then cheers: We love Oklahoma City! We love the (New Team Name)! Yeah! Come on – let’s go! We’re ready for the show! Followed by that yodeling woman I heard on the newscast the other day. Did you catch that? I never heard anything like it. I didn’t even need my hearing aids. Wonder if a yodeling woman with that much talent and spirit could be a mascot?”
Mercedes, I say this with all due respect. Get some sleep.
Ray wrote, “The NBA team name we have not seen: Harvesters. The majority of people in Oklahoma look forward at least once a year to the harvest. Wheat farmers depend on the harvest. Those who do the deed are the Harvesters. Peach growers, watermelon, corn, baby calves even spiritual leaders teach us about the harvest. Sports recruiters who succeed have a great harvest. I personally would love to watch my team have a great HARVEST every year. They could be the best HARVESTERS ever in the league.”
Years ago, there was a gospel music group called the Harvesters. I thought it was sort of a clunky name. But an NBA team called the Harvesters would be even clunkier.
Joel asked, “Does one of the majority owner’s daughter have a horse called Thunder? That would be the only reason to name a team that! When I was young, all the little girls’ horses were named Thunder. Now really, isn’t that a little hick? Barons or Oil Barons would be better than that, maybe a little too close to where the money come from to buy the team! 89ers or something, please!”
I guess it could be worse. I guess they could have selected the Black Beauties.
Josh wrote about my suggestion for Garth Brooks’ The Thunder Rolls as an anthem at Thunder games. “You do know that The Thunder Rolls is about adultery, domestic violence and, in a 1991 video, glamorized murder as a solution to both, correct? On second thought, it is the NBA! Probably a proper fit. But I’d still have gone with Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen. And if they call the arena The ThunderDome, then fans can chant ‘TWO MEN ENTER! ONE MAN LEAVES!’ before every game, an allusion to the 1985 Golden-Globe nominated Mad Max movie. THAT would be the coolest chant in pro sports.”
No, I plead ignorance on Garth Brooks’ song. But I’m all over this TWO MEN ENTER stuff.
John wrote, “Now that I think about it, there are scores of better names for the NBA team here. Just a few examples: Noodlers, Flatheads, Bluecats, Sodbusters, Dusters, (Civilized) Tribesmen, Mezocyclones, High Pressure Ridges, Land Rushers (or just Rushers), Natives, Wind and, of course, the Gunslingers, Outlaws, Criminals and maybe even The Bassmasters. I’ll send more as I think of them. Hopefully it isn’t too late.”
Hopefully, it is.
Matt wrote, “It will be disappointing to have the new NBA team name be on par with Wild, Magic, Lightning and Storm. Thunder will not sell t-shirts, jerseys or hats outside of Oklahoma unless OKC is lucky enough to get the next Michael Jordan. There are three directions to go with a team name. Classic (Steelers, Celtics, Dodgers…even Nationals). New: (Thunder, Avalanche, Rays). Funny/Endearing (Banana Slugs, Gorillas, Tree Frogs, etc). If classic wasn’t possible, then funny is the way to go. New is neither classic or funny…well, it’s funny for people outside of Oklahoma.”
No major-league franchise ever has done funny. I’m sort of glad Oklahoma City isn’t the first.
Russ wrote that he likes Thunder better than my Thunderbirds: “What’s so uniquely Oklahoman about Thunderbirds? It’s a car that rolled out of Detroit for decades, it’s the U.S. Air Force demonstration fighter jet team based in Las Vegas, it’s a mythological bird from Native American cultures all across the North America, not just Oklahoma. Thunder is a very uniquely Oklahoman name and concept. You see, around here it’s not just a weather term, it’s far more than that to us. I’ve heard thunder even in New Jersey, but it sounds nothing like thunder rolling across the open Oklahoma plains, and it certainly sounds nothing like the pounding feet, hooves and wagon wheels of stampeding thousands scrambling to stake their claims! That’s an entirely different kind of thunder rolling across our red earth, one not heard before or since. The first crack of thunder means a new beginning, with hope. It’s a sign that rain is coming, and with rain there blossoms new life and new hope. Thunder wells up hope within us that when it rains it pours, refreshing the land. Like a land run, thunder signifies the beginning of what we are and are becoming. We hold hope that this NBA team is a symbol of a bigger, brighter, major-league future for Oklahoma City and the state. When Thunder rolls in Oklahoma, we bring in the cattle, shutter the windows, and look anxiously across the fields; something serious is coming. When Thunder shakes our land we know there is lightning and the promise of a powerful storm on the way. In Oklahoma, Thunder even rolls across the plains on a dry sunny day, the power of people creating something new, something grand. We know that thunder is unstoppable, whether it echoes across the sky or stampedes across the ground. It is the way we see our people, our land, our future, and linked to that future, our NBA team … you see, the reason Thunder won The Oklahoman’s name bracket in the spring and the reason it’s growing on you, too, is because Thunder is not merely another ’singular name thing,’ as you put it. It’s a solid metaphor for our state, our city.”
Thunderbirds is uniquely Oklahoman because of the 45th Infantry. As for the speech about thunder, it reminded me of Oliver Wendell Douglass on Green Acres, when he would make a corny speech about farmers and America. Funny stuff.
Gail wrote, “OK Berry, don’t be trying to get on my good side. Usually I’m plotting my e-mails in reaction to your columns. But I actually had a laugh about the Thunder article. I also have been visualizing claps of thunder in the arena (the Thunderdome) with lightning shooting across our new lighting system (thanks, taxpayers). My only fear is that there will be a BEEP …. BEEP …. BEEP … This is a Weather Alert! There is Thunder on the horizon…BEEP…BEEP…BEEP! We interrupt this basketball game to warn the Lakers of imminent danger. Take your weather precautions. Thunder is approaching. BEEP…BEEP…BEEP.”
There’s absolutely no way we’re going to be able to keep the weathermen out of this.
But not all the emails concerned the NBA. Some were good old-fashioned college football takes. Paul didn’t like my rankings of the 96 Big 12 games this year. “Real Norman Transcript stuff. I think you become more of an OU homer every year. Ten of the OU games rank in the top 50 compared to OSU’s three (and of course one of those is against OU, so it might as well be two).”
I hate it when I have to explain something so elementary, but a team that is picked fourth in the South Division is going to play far fewer marquee games than a school picked fourth in the nation.
Richard took exception to my jeering of OU and Texas Tech for leaving quarterbacks Sam Bradford and Graham Harrell home for Big 12 Media Days. “Probably the reason some of the star quarterbacks were missing was because the coaches know that eventually they’d be subjected to the same inane questions asked every week by the same group of sportswriters sharing the same brain. This is so the sport writers can write those stirring articles we all want to read; such as who was the best dressed coach at the Big 12 football media days.”
Excellent point. Just go cry on somebody else’s shoulder come awards time, if Bradford and Harrell are overlooked.
David wrote, “You once wrote that you no longer voted in the AP football poll, saying something to the effect that you felt writers should be reporting the news instead of creating the news. Over the years, your writings concerning the rankings indicate that you would be casting one of the more intelligent votes; so I wish you would reconsider. This requires a quick rebuttal of the ‘creating vs. reporting the news’ issue. My main point would be that sports writers (and fans) are an integral part of the sport. To say that sports writers shouldn’t create the news would mean that if all followed your example, there would not only be no rankings at all, but no all-conference or all-America teams. Since there is no playoff in Division I, no national crown would have been rewarded at all, even a mythical one. How could one possibly argue that the sport isn’t enriched by these things that journalists add to the sport? And if rankings and all-everything teams are to exist, who better than the writers to conduct them? Bob Stoops may not respect a writer’s knowledge of the sport — but you guys have built your careers around knowing sports, which makes you the most knowledgeable possible voters. Really, what are sports writers? You are the people who speak to and for the fans; you are our tribunes. Journalists in other areas are such: who would tell Woodard and Bernstein that they should only be reporting, rather than creating the news? Watergate would never have come to light. To separate writers from the news of sports is to eliminate fans as a part of the game. WE want rankings; WE want all-America teams. And you, Berry, are the closest we have to a representative to cast our vote. And as for representing the fans of Oklahoma, the best example of that role for you came in the Not-the-Sonics wars we just went through. People around the country read your stuff and even wrote about you as representative of what Oklahomans thought, for right or wrong. Personally, I not only liked what you wrote about Bennet and the Sonics, I was proud of it — proud thinking that you were speaking so well on our behalf. In short, sports writers don’t just enrich the sport by writing about the blue-gray October sky that Grantland Rice gave us 80 years ago, wonderful as those things are. Sports writers gave us the AP poll 72 years ago, and a wonderful gift it was. To vote in it is an honor. One that I wish you would accept again.”
Thanks, David, but it’s a pass. I will, however, soon announce my candidacy for governor, with you as campaign manager.
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Maybe “Wind” wouldn’t be so bad; but unfortunately — with thanks to Ralph’s e-mail that Berry led off with here — I can only imagine that the first time our guys get bashed by Boston (remember, this isn’t a great team we have yet), some smart*ss headline writer will have to proclaim: “CELTICS BREAK WIND”.
i’m dismayed at the media pundits who seem to be pusnhing thunder as the team name…
one minute it’s clay bennett definitely doen’t like weather related and/or singular sound names…
then they pre maturely announce Thunder (weather related and singular sound) as the chosen name…
according to sources close to the team, of course…
media-types love to present themselves as being up close and personal w/the power elite…
they then start the process all over again…
the drum beat for Thunder kicks up to a feverish pitch…
even saying ” “now we know why clay bennett chose Thunder”…
better still they have the audacity to declare…
“the great nickname contest appears to be over”…
well it ain’t over ’til clay says it over…
whatever the new name, i’ll support it…
but, ’til then, give us a break w/the i-know-what-you-don’t-know stuff…
stop the cheap-shots at other names, including Wind…
pharses like…
“Wind? “You’ve got to be kidding”…
even went as far as to print a re-designed WIND jersey that projected a distinctly [weak] image…
finally, we read “there wasn’t much thinking outside the box, past Thunder” statement…
how insulting to all who suggested a name…
guess that goes right back to the guy who proposed thunderbirds…
the public is smarter then you think…
we understand the media has the power to shape minds and behavior of readers/listeners…
i say…fight the power.
Go Wind!
IS that Wind as in I used to wind my watch? Or wind as in ‘to break?’ Long, long ago, there was an ABA team simply known as The Floridians. Not a bad idea. Go with that lead. The Floridians!
recognizing that all things, and all people, have a negative side…
i rather focus on the positive side…
i don’t cater to the small but vocal (make-the-most noise) percentage of fans that don’t favor WIND…
most people i talk to like the name Wind for it’s uniqueness…
i believe oklahomans are secure enough in themselves to handle the east coast / west coast axis of put-downers…
the [jay leno] types will never stop mocking oklahoma in some way…
they must put others down to feel superior or better themselves…
the wind of change is about…
it’s our turn to shine in the national sunlight…
with no apologies, either…
so, whatever the name…
be it barons, bisons, marshalls, energy, thunder, or Wind…
let’s pledge alligence to our nba team name…
and thank clay and the guys for what they have done for our city…
the axis will use put-down humor when it comes to oklahoma…
our best response is to have a successful team…
with exceptional fan support…
we can make this a Wind…win situation for oklahoma city…
Go Wind!
Ok lets look at that last comment, The national media is really ripping us for the poor choice of names I too am somewhat befuddled at the lack of any kind of pure creative thought put into the naming of our team ( hey I just said “our” team) feels great huh? People listen up and listen up good, those names sound like something a half drunk team leading squad came up with when the ran of ideas to call the dance team they want to try to do for the prom. lets see the national media blast us for calling our team the Oklahoma City Buffalo Soliders!!! HA! no chance they would take shots at the black plains calvery that did such an outstanding job! We overlook these fine americans all the time they are just a side blurb in oklahoma history classes and not mentioned at all in history classes except for a two line “oh by the way did ya know”. Come on now people lets give them the credit the earned in sweat and blood and time under the red earth sun. lets do the right thing here its our chance to give a nod and pat on the back long long overdue.
umm sorry for the type o’s thats what i get for cutting and pasting on a laptop goin on two hours sleep…thats sposed to be cheerleading squad anyway point stands…not to mention the african american color gard wearing calv uniforms and waving the american and oklahoma flag as they play charge over the loud speakers and taps when our opponets lose…the list goes on and on !

everybody seems to ignore the name “OklahomaCity Wind” a.k.a. “OKCWIND” as a worthy and/or attractive name for our new nba team…
the name has been marginalized by media pundits…
no pun intended, but seems like Wind weathered the storm, so far…
and rightfully so…
it’s time fans of Wind to speak-up…
if dean orza, ocu business school, is right…
a good name should be:
positive…as in the wind(s) of change coming to okc.
short…as in one syllable.
easy to spell…as in a four letter word.
easy to pronounce…say Wind!
easy to remember…on a typical “windy” okc day.
reflect strength…as in (mother nature) a strong wind, wind power, wind speed, wind energy.
should be fun…that answer is blowing w/the Wind.
unique…as in [no] pro sport team in the world carries the moniker “WIND”.
characterize team’s region…as in “Ooooklahoma where the wind comes sweepin’ down the plain”.
think long term…
think 21st century…
think foward (our future)…
it might take a while…
but it will fit…
give “OklahomaCity WIND” a chance…
it will grow on you…
south floridians had reservations about “Heat”…
just as many okc fans have about “Wind”…
in 2007 the Miami [Heat] was #1 in merchandise sales(insidehoops.com)…
is there anything more powerful than Wind a.k.a. Mother Nature…
think about it…
finally, THANKS to whoever is responsible for including “WIND” among the final six names…
Gooo Wind!!
p.s. “Imagine”…(john lennon ‘71)