Comments on: Coaches on the hot seat

By: Tom

Tom — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:49:09 +0000

Wonder what service your friend served in, if any. He talks like he is an expert on that.

By: Cody S

Cody S — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:00:20 +0000

You have to wonder why Jim B. (the positive guy who wrote a reply) even follows the Cowboys. He states he agrees with what Joe Gillis says about Gundy, going as far as to say Gillis was “right on.” And he isn’t much of a (Sean) Sutton believer either, saying “…no fire, no coaching…”

If he follows the Cowboys because he is a fan then I ask him what coaches OSU could attract that he thinks could do a better job? As for both sports, the possibilites for better coaches are there, but at what price? Both Gundy and Sutton are running clean programs and gettting very decent recruits to a school that is difficult to recruit to. If he feels they can’t coach then I wonder if he is watching the same games as the rest of us? Sure, they have both made wrong calls at the wrong times – what coach doesn’t?

If he isn’t a Cowboy fan then the jealousy is obvious.

I’m thinking he just has issues. He is far from being ‘right on’ about Sutton. Sutton basically took over for his father years before Eddie stepped down. Sean did almost all the game plans, with exception to Texas Tech which was Coach Dickey’s baby. Sean also began running practices and doing a good deal of floor coaching during the games. He also has been responsible for the majority of recruiting for the Cowboys for the past few years.

I’m going to guess this Jim B. guy is failing to look at what Gundy and Sutton have been up against. Gundy dismissed a lot of Miles’ star recruits because they violated team rules or were bad for the team. He has held his own the past two years by not having a losing season (which is a huge step for the storied past of Oklahoma State football)! Be realistic, the Big XII South is very competitive and Gundy is making strides to put OSU in place to compete for the South title. As for Sutton, I’d like to see Jim B. or Coach K loose 40% of his starters and not take a huge hit. I think Sean has done a good job this season, despite not having an image or being able to speak. He obviously has an image with high profile recruits because he “speaks” on their level enough to get them to play at a school that lost it’s tradition for a few decades.

By the way, are there any Oklahoma State fans or fans from other school without National Championship tradition that expect their first-time head football or basketball coach to be perfect in the first two or three years? Get over it Jim B. or pick another school to become such an expert on!

By: Larry

Larry — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:14:52 +0000

Hmmm. Joe Gillis has an interesting perspecitve. Gundy may have been made head Cowboy a little early but I think he is making a lot of progress at OSU. If I remember correctly he dismissed several players the first year for various reasons, but mostly it seemed as he was cleaning up after Miles. I think Gundy will be ok and they will get back to 8-4 most seasons.
On Stoops it’s hard to knock a guy that has been so successful. To say that “you or I” could have coached OU to a win is pretty bold. I do agree that OU hasn’t been the same since Mike Stoops left but bottom line is: Mike Stoops is gone, at least for now, and OU is still pretty good. I don’t know why OU has let downs like at Colorado, Texas Tech and West Virginia but we they aren’t the only school that had that happen last year and it will happen again. Sometimes in sports you just can’t get a team up for whatever reason. Sometimes the guys are just not ready to play. Stoops is stumped on this too. If you remember his comments after the Fiesta bowl, he said something like, “well evidently we are not doing something right “. I know that is not exactly what he said but it implied he wasn’t doing the right thing preparing the team. So I don’t want to “sell the farm” on Stoops. He is a great coach and we should be thankful we have him. Just think, we could have someone like John Blake. I do wish OU would recruit a few more Oklahoma boys. I think that is a missing element in the “fire”. A boy that has grown up in Oklahoma has an attitude about playing for his state/school that you really can’t develop in a kid from outside the state. I understand OU recruits nationally and needs to but a few more Wes Welker type kids are out there that will go to Tulsa etc but would go to OU if they had a chance.

By: john boy

john boy — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:00:15 +0000

Jenni “DESERVED” that for writing something “NEGATIVE” about a college athlete and columnist(if you can call Jenni that) should never, ever write anything “NEGATIVE” about high school and college athletes and Jenni “CROSSED THE LINE” by doing that. What an “IDIOT” she is.

By: Jim B

Jim B — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:42:27 +0000

The man is,’ right on’, about Gundy, of course he wil lhave a better season in ’08. Better team, better schedule-not a better coach! I would love to hear what he has to say about Sutton–talk about bland, no fire, no coaching, no image, can’t speak, no nothing from this guy!!

By: Jason Taylor

Jason Taylor — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:12:09 +0000

The guy may be interesting to you Berry and I can see that. He has some decent points. It’s really sad when the media from outside of Oklahoma see something in Stoops that, up until the Fiesta Bowl, really was not mentioned that much. Stoops did look a little bored on the sidelines at Tech but he was hot at his players when they played poorly. He showed fire but the fire that he had when his brother Mike was there is not the same as it is now. I really think that Bob and Mike fed off of each other. Bob really does not need his brother for that but you can tell a difference in intensity when the games are not that big. Colorado and Tech last year were big games. Unfortunately that was not relayed to the players. The regular season games are bigger than the NFL’s b/c if you lose one game it can cost you a chance at a national championship. That should be relayed to the players. If Stoops really wants to play for championships he needs to start at the beginning with the regular and build on that all the way to the big game. It’s unfortunate that the players mindset is where it is but Stoops is the main source of that poor mindset. Championships are what should be played for but it is an entire season that determines championships not just one game. Stoops should read what was said by Joe and it might fuel a little fire.

On Gundy, I think that he was right on about him. He was acting a little childish but I still think that Gundy has a great coaching mind. He will win more games in ’08 than he did in ’07 and keep his job for another year.

I think that his prediction of Stoops going to Florida is a bunch of B.S. To me that would be a step down from where he is or at best a lateral move. Why would someone do that? There is not another job in the country that would be a step up from OU. The NFL would be it but I really don’t think that Stoops is interested in that. He saw what Spurrier had to go through and I feel that thinks that the NFL is not a spectrum he wants to work in. The pressure is so much more and the expectations are almost outrageous. At OU the expectations are what Stoops set himself, Championships.

The other predictions seem a little more likely but I wouldn’t bank on any of them.