Comments on: Zac the Man in Stillwater http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/ Thoughts from The Oklahoman Sports Columnist Berry Tramel | NewsOK.com Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:42:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Hal Walker http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Hal Walker Sat, 06 Oct 2007 04:21:12 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/#comment-175 Pathetic. For you and the DOK to try to defend Carlson's piece about Bobby is simply pathetic. It can't be defended. Don't you know that? Pathetic. For you and the DOK to try to defend Carlson’s piece about Bobby is simply pathetic. It can’t be defended. Don’t you know that?

]]> By: Phil Robins http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Phil Robins Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:40:15 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/#comment-143 Robinson is making quick decisions and seeing the entire field as well as the other reasons you mention. Not saying that Bobby may have developed those same instincts, but many oSu fans have seen this since the aTm game last year. Robinson is making quick decisions and seeing the entire field as well as the other reasons you mention. Not saying that Bobby may have developed those same instincts, but many oSu fans have seen this since the aTm game last year.

]]> By: Colin http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/comment-page-1/#comment-135 Colin Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:55:27 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/#comment-135 What also goes unnoticed is Jenni's opening paragraph about the chicken that took place after the game. Was she even at the game. I thought she stayed in Oklahoma instead of going to the game. How would she know what his mom fed him? Is what counts for a viable fact now..."my friend, who saw Bobby Reid after the game said his mom fed him chicken" and somehow connecting this to the reason he no longer starts? What also goes unnoticed is Jenni’s opening paragraph about the chicken that took place after the game. Was she even at the game. I thought she stayed in Oklahoma instead of going to the game. How would she know what his mom fed him? Is what counts for a viable fact now…”my friend, who saw Bobby Reid after the game said his mom fed him chicken” and somehow connecting this to the reason he no longer starts?

]]> By: Kay http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/comment-page-1/#comment-129 Kay Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:58:14 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/#comment-129 Jenni Carlson and the newspaper should offer an apology to Reid and his family ASAP...however it may be too late. Jenni Carlson and the newspaper should offer an apology to Reid and his family ASAP…however it may be too late.

]]> By: Steve http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/comment-page-1/#comment-122 Steve Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:44:59 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/#comment-122 Nice comments Melissa. Jenni has no place in sports, her comments are a personal attack and completely devoid of fact. Pitiful she is still working for the rag known as The Jokelahoman but even more pitiful is the fact that Tramel supports her ability which bring up his comments as opinion instead of fact. Nice job of lumping your ability with the garbage we have all come to expect from the worst rag in the country... the Daily Jokelahoman. Nice comments Melissa. Jenni has no place in sports, her comments are a personal attack and completely devoid of fact. Pitiful she is still working for the rag known as The Jokelahoman but even more pitiful is the fact that Tramel supports her ability which bring up his comments as opinion instead of fact. Nice job of lumping your ability with the garbage we have all come to expect from the worst rag in the country… the Daily Jokelahoman.

]]> By: Melissa http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/comment-page-1/#comment-121 Melissa Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:51:40 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/#comment-121 What is lost, it would seem, in the debate over what Jenni Carlson said is the truth. She obviously would not know the truth if it walked up and smacked her over the head with a newspaper. The majority of people in Oklahoma hate her because of her horrible articles already. Apparently she is a glutton for punishment. I find it abhorrent that someone who takes their opinions and bends the facts to match the outcome they want is allowed to continue contributing to your paper in a serious manner. If Jenni Carlson were writing an op-ed piece (on an op-ed page)and she wanted to toss about wild and unfounded accusations, she would at least have an excuse. She would still sound like a prattling idiot, but that would be her perogative. What is NOT her perogative is to write an article for the sports page - which is supposed to be reporting facts - and without citing any real sources and without having any knowledge of the topic at hand, go off on a diatribe that attacks not the SPORTS prowess of a young man, but his own personal worth. This young lady is out of control. She is a terrible journalist and she is, sadly, right at home in your paper. I used to receive the Daily Oklahoman but have sense thought better of it. It is, for lack of a better phrase, a piece of trash. Ninety percent of the time the news is innacurate or out of touch. If I want to know the news I know where NOT to go. It has gotten so bad that I have started refusing to even take the free sample papers those door to door newspaper commandos offer me in an attempt to lure me back to your circulation. And you know the sad part of all this is that Ms. Carlson is an idiot who got exactly what she deserved and yet it really, truly, ultimately is not her fault. It's YOURS. You hired the imbecile, you allow her crap she calls writing to make it into your sports section, and here you stand - defending her. As pathetic as she is, you sir, take the cake. And for the record, I am not one of those disgruntled OSU fans to whom everyone seems to want to attribute any and all support of Mike Gundy. I have no interest at all in either OSU or OU sports. I do, however, have an interest in journalistic integrity. I wish I could say the same for you. What is lost, it would seem, in the debate over what Jenni Carlson said is the truth.

She obviously would not know the truth if it walked up and smacked her over the head with a newspaper. The majority of people in Oklahoma hate her because of her horrible articles already. Apparently she is a glutton for punishment. I find it abhorrent that someone who takes their opinions and bends the facts to match the outcome they want is allowed to continue contributing to your paper in a serious manner.

If Jenni Carlson were writing an op-ed piece (on an op-ed page)and she wanted to toss about wild and unfounded accusations, she would at least have an excuse. She would still sound like a prattling idiot, but that would be her perogative. What is NOT her perogative is to write an article for the sports page – which is supposed to be reporting facts – and without citing any real sources and without having any knowledge of the topic at hand, go off on a diatribe that attacks not the SPORTS prowess of a young man, but his own personal worth.

This young lady is out of control. She is a terrible journalist and she is, sadly, right at home in your paper. I used to receive the Daily Oklahoman but have sense thought better of it. It is, for lack of a better phrase, a piece of trash. Ninety percent of the time the news is innacurate or out of touch. If I want to know the news I know where NOT to go. It has gotten so bad that I have started refusing to even take the free sample papers those door to door newspaper commandos offer me in an attempt to lure me back to your circulation.

And you know the sad part of all this is that Ms. Carlson is an idiot who got exactly what she deserved and yet it really, truly, ultimately is not her fault. It’s YOURS. You hired the imbecile, you allow her crap she calls writing to make it into your sports section, and here you stand – defending her. As pathetic as she is, you sir, take the cake.

And for the record, I am not one of those disgruntled OSU fans to whom everyone seems to want to attribute any and all support of Mike Gundy. I have no interest at all in either OSU or OU sports. I do, however, have an interest in journalistic integrity.

I wish I could say the same for you.

]]> By: osualum2002 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/comment-page-1/#comment-120 osualum2002 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:01:36 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/#comment-120 Just read your article about Jenni being a good reporter...something to that nature. She is a terrible reporter all of you should be ashamed. One one hand we have her tabloid style writing and then on the other hand we have her inablity to structure a coherent sentence. Sounds like she is not going to be reprimanded for her actions and if I did reside in the state of Oklahoma I would ban your paper. My parents who do live there are doing so this very morning. Since I don't live there and instead live in Dallas I will be calling my friends who are advertising executives and beg them to cease business of any kind with The Oklahman...I have a feeling though... Boone has already beat me to it. Just read your article about Jenni being a good reporter…something to that nature. She is a terrible reporter all of you should be ashamed. One one hand we have her tabloid style writing and then on the other hand we have her inablity to structure a coherent sentence.

Sounds like she is not going to be reprimanded for her actions and if I did reside in the state of Oklahoma I would ban your paper. My parents who do live there are doing so this very morning.

Since I don’t live there and instead live in Dallas I will be calling my friends who are advertising executives and beg them to cease business of any kind with The Oklahman…I have a feeling though… Boone has already beat me to it.

]]> By: Cindy Worley Rambo http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/comment-page-1/#comment-118 Cindy Worley Rambo Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:34:18 +0000 http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2007/09/23/zac-the-man-in-stillwater/#comment-118 I was relieved to see that it was not you who got that well deserved tongue lashing from Mike Gundy. I taught you in second grade and have always been proud of you and your work. Journalism does not need liars. We have enough of those in other places. Carlson needs to move to the tabloids. Cindy Worley Rambo I was relieved to see that it was not you who got that well deserved tongue lashing from Mike Gundy. I taught you in second grade and have always been proud of you and your work.

Journalism does not need liars. We have enough of those in other places. Carlson needs to move to the tabloids.

Cindy Worley Rambo

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